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LOL at you bringing it up?
I mean seriously.
I guess from now on each thanked post I will give an explanation of why I thanked it.
Swing and a miss.
I mean seriously.
I guess from now on each thanked post I will give an explanation of why I thanked it.
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Lol at throwing up subjective honors up there. As if Jordan even needs those to be mentioned to be placed above Drexler.
Drexler was "nearly step-for-step" with Jordan in terms of AST/REB/STL/BLK/FG% and, like Jordan, was a great scorer and defender (though nowhere near Jordan in both categories). Maybe I could have chosen my words better? But that's simply all I meant.
Drexler was "nearly step-for-step" with Jordan in terms of AST/REB/STL/BLK/FG% and, like Jordan, was a great scorer and defender (though nowhere near Jordan in both categories). Maybe I could have chosen my words better? But that's simply all I meant.
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You're insane.
Seriously.
You can't even argue a consistant point/angle.
After already saying this:
Seriously.
You can't even argue a consistant point/angle.
Yeah because subjective honors don't mean anything...on top of the fact that you follow this statement with this:
After already saying this:
So from now on all I have to mention to elevate Jordan above Drexler is that he scored more PPG? Because every other stat according to you was: "matched" or "exceeded" by Drexler. So from an "objective" point of view Jordan was better in only one catagory than Drexler but after laughing at me for putting Jordan above Drexler in part because of "subjective" honors you say the following..:
Really? Based on what objective analysis? Don't use the eye-test, awards, honors, or any other subjective angle because I will LOL at you!!!!!#$#@$@@@
Perhaps just quit posting.
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Lol at continuing to argue with someone, and wondering why he's getting no argument in-response, when I agree that Jordan is better than Drexler.
And, sure, Drexler, "nearly always" (noticed you took that part out of my quote again) matched or exceeded MJ in terms of Asts/Reb/FG%/Blk/Stl during those seasons.
You're just beating a dead horse, man. And you already thanked a post that said Pierce>Drexler.
And, sure, Drexler, "nearly always" (noticed you took that part out of my quote again) matched or exceeded MJ in terms of Asts/Reb/FG%/Blk/Stl during those seasons.
You're just beating a dead horse, man. And you already thanked a post that said Pierce>Drexler.
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Yeah and your "logic" for liking Jordan more than Drexler makes almost zero sense.
I can't bring up subjective honors however after explaining to everyone here how Drexler mataches or exceed Jordan in every objective catagory except scoring you say Jordan is "still clearly the better player" based on some magic non-subjective argument.
Here's a news flash.
I can still think you are an absolute fucking moron even though the end result of our thinking is the same(Jordan>>>>>Drexler). I can still take issue with and call out your completely asinine non-sensical means to the end.
You narrow minded pud.
Another news flash. I don't need to agree with 100% of the content of the post to thank it. I can "thank" a post if I agree with even one sentence of it. Like how I thanked that post for the Yao, Melo, VC, portion.
Put PP34 and Drexler in front of me and I take Drexler each and every day of the week.
Is that clear enough for you?
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Lol, Sorry that I insulted you, by me not giving a shit enough to argue with someone who is just talking for the sake of talking.
This is all because you don't understand how I can 'rationally like' Jordan more than Drexler and yet defend Drexler in the hands-down top-50 player argument?
Logic and "liking" something/one do not necessarily go hand-in-hand... that is almost an oxymoron, and makes no sense.
This is all because you don't understand how I can 'rationally like' Jordan more than Drexler and yet defend Drexler in the hands-down top-50 player argument?
Logic and "liking" something/one do not necessarily go hand-in-hand... that is almost an oxymoron, and makes no sense.
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LOL at calling your logic for liking Jordan "rational" based upon your previous assertions and reasonings for them being "nearly step for step"
You're a fucking ass clown.
Wow.
Just wow.
Let's review shall we.
Rami: Drexler and Jordan were nearly "step for step" for a majority of their careers
FT/Lefty/Prope: WTF? No they weren't.
Rami: Look at the stats!
First: Jordan scored a vast amount more, had better awards, and was widely considered the better player regardless of rebounds, assists, etc being similar.
Rami: LOL at the use of subjective achievments. The only real difference in the two players was Jordan being more of a volume scorer...but clearly Jordan was the better player.
First: Uhhh then how was Jordan "clearly" the better player if all he did better was score and we can't use subjective awards and actual comparison against their peers?
Rami: LOL you not knowing logic and "liking" don't go hand in hand.
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Your entire argument is asinine. You say Drexler was step for step with Jordan. Shows stats that put him and Jordan on the same level...except for scoring then laugh when people use subjective honors to elevate Jordan...THEN point out the stats again in an objective manner than subjectivley say that Jordan "was clearly the better player". Based on what objective analysis of yours is he? Qualify your reasoning. You've presented no reasoning that is objective for Jordan being the better player outside of him scoring more.
The hilarious part is that you can't even see the forest from the trees on what is happening to you here.
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Lol at you continuing to talk just for the sake of talking. All this because I mildly compared Drexler to Jordan... you're a joke.
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Lololololololol
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LOL at all the gratuitous LOLs
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Yeah. Saying Drexler was "nearly step for step" with Jordan is a "mild comparison".
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If I can just throw my lot in here for a second: Jordan and Drexler, for their respective careers, are indeed close in what we can call the "peripheral" statistics (AST, REB, TOV, etc.). And really, when you look at the per-36 numbers, the only main difference between the two was scoring.
That being said, the difference in scoring was huge. Jordan simply out-classed Drexler (by more than 7 points per 36 minutes on average) at putting the ball in the hoop, to the point where saying "they were close, and really the only difference was their scoring" doesn't do enough to capture the actual vast difference in their respective scoring abilities and contributions.
So, were the two players close in the peripherals? Yes. However, simply noting that and not paying due diligence to the monumental difference in their scoring abilities is more than a bit questionable. Now Rami, I know you want to respond with "SEE?!?! That's all I was saying, is that they were close in those stats," but that begs the question: what the hell was the point in stating that? You had to know that the difference in scoring (really, really important) between the two was at the least rather large, so listing them as "close" in those other stats (not nearly as important in scoring) really serves no purpose, especially so when you fail to quantify (or at the very least qualify) Jordan's supreme scoring ability.
That being said, the difference in scoring was huge. Jordan simply out-classed Drexler (by more than 7 points per 36 minutes on average) at putting the ball in the hoop, to the point where saying "they were close, and really the only difference was their scoring" doesn't do enough to capture the actual vast difference in their respective scoring abilities and contributions.
So, were the two players close in the peripherals? Yes. However, simply noting that and not paying due diligence to the monumental difference in their scoring abilities is more than a bit questionable. Now Rami, I know you want to respond with "SEE?!?! That's all I was saying, is that they were close in those stats," but that begs the question: what the hell was the point in stating that? You had to know that the difference in scoring (really, really important) between the two was at the least rather large, so listing them as "close" in those other stats (not nearly as important in scoring) really serves no purpose, especially so when you fail to quantify (or at the very least qualify) Jordan's supreme scoring ability.
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Yeah. Saying Drexler was "nearly step for step" with Jordan is a "mild comparison".
Lol I don't know how many times I need to tell you what I meant before you finally realize that I don't consider the two players as near equals. But, hey, I don't care.
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This thread has become redonkulus.
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Basically, Lefty, all I was trying to say (to Prope) was that I consider Clyde Drexler to be closer to Jordan's caliber than Paul Pierce. Maybe I used poor choice of wording to illustrate my feeling, but I explained what I meant by it. I really wasn't trying to give in-depth player report cards on all 3 players, so you guys can bash me all you want for being complacent about it.
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Lol at you ignoring the part of me saying "I don't care"
and Lol at you asking me to make a case for Jordan>Drexler
How about this- I watched them play. lol good enough for ya?
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My favorite teams
Aside from a championship ring??
37% vs 32% in three point shots
Gets to the free throw line much more than Clyde did
Better offensive win share over the career
Better defensive win share over the career
Clyde was a better rebounder though.
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