Justin Fields is currently ranked 21st in QBR for the year

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Even though he has improved, statistically, I don't think his ranking among quarterbacks has moved that much from where it was coming into the year, which was probably around the 20th best quarterback.

His legs aren't nearly as dynamic as they were a year ago. It seems like every team but DET has figured out how to limit that part of his game. His biggest run all season has been 29 yards. The passing numbers have improved a bit, but the explosiveness in the run game has dropped off.

I wanted to see a more noticeable step forward in his development, but I feel like we are still kind of in the same position we were this time a year ago. Overall, he's just too inconsistent for me to trust. If it weren't for the #1 pick, I'd give him another year, but Williams is just too good of a talent for me to pass up.

Isn't this what people wanted to see out of him this season?

 

[iueyedoc]

4 QBs just means more teams can wait instead of trading up. You need a team to think CW is much better than the other guys.

Not that this really matters… but all I see from other fan bases is comments about not wanting to be the next Panthers this year.

That is faulty thinking by said fans. The error was not trading up it was the GM and owner ignoring the glaring red flag that is a 5-10 170 lb QB's ability to play in the NFL. Had the Panthers chosen Stroud and the Texans were left with Young, the narrative would be about how smart CAR was to have the huevos to move up for the only franchise QB in the draft.

That said it all too early on any of the QB's good or bad, thankfully Young only needs to suck for 2 of the next 4 weeks.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

4 QBs just means more teams can wait instead of trading up. You need a team to think CW is much better than the other guys.

Not that this really matters… but all I see from other fan bases is comments about not wanting to be the next Panthers this year.

By "not wanting to be the next Panthers" do you mean trading draft capital and your #1 at a position in order to draft a midget QB?

 

[gocbears]

Lies, damned lies, and statistics...

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

There isn't a single quarterback in the NFL that has Fields escape ability, speed, elusiveness and arm strength. Needs to take care of the ball more, yes and needs to speed up a bit more consistently. He's improved as a passer year over year, you're nuts to move on from him. I am done with his fumbling, he needs to fix that there isn't an excuse to lose the football unless you're getting strip sacked and that rarely happens, it is usually his fault. Also unnecessary sacks but I can live with those, as long as he takes care of the ball.

BUT, fumbles lost he's still not even in the top 10. That stat is overblown among haters of the QB1 to try and convince themselves he isn't' the one.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

There isn't a single quarterback in the NFL that has Fields escape ability, speed, elusiveness and arm strength. Needs to take care of the ball more, yes and needs to speed up a bit more consistently. He's improved as a passer year over year, you're nuts to move on from him. I am done with his fumbling, he needs to fix that there isn't an excuse to lose the football unless you're getting strip sacked and that rarely happens, it is usually his fault. Also unnecessary sacks but I can live with those, as long as he takes care of the ball.

BUT, fumbles lost he's still not even in the top 10. That stat is overblown among haters of the QB1 to try and convince themselves he isn't' the one.

Lamar says “hi”.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

There isn't a single quarterback in the NFL that has Fields escape ability, speed, elusiveness and arm strength. Needs to take care of the ball more, yes and needs to speed up a bit more consistently. He's improved as a passer year over year, you're nuts to move on from him. I am done with his fumbling, he needs to fix that there isn't an excuse to lose the football unless you're getting strip sacked and that rarely happens, it is usually his fault. Also unnecessary sacks but I can live with those, as long as he takes care of the ball.

BUT, fumbles lost he's still not even in the top 10. That stat is overblown among haters of the QB1 to try and convince themselves he isn't' the one.

Chase Daniel does a Tuesday hit with Parkins and Spiegel and he was talking about the turnovers. He compared Fields (in this aspect - bold not for you) to Aaron Rodgers when it came to INTs. He was saying that Rodgers takes a lot of sacks because in his mind it's better to lose the yards than the ball. Especially considering Rodgers has the confidence that he can make the next play. Maybe, maaaaaybe, that is how Fields also thinks.

 

[Moses Moreno]

You watch football and see Daniel Jones when you watch Justin Fields?

What the **** are you on? Jones is a Daboll mirage, Justin is routinely doing shit that only he's capable of doing that bails out Getsy.

Some people can't differentiate between coaching/situation and actual talent. Justin's at his current level because he's a monster talent, a good OC refines his game but we're not there right now.

 

[iueyedoc]

There isn't a single quarterback in the NFL that has Fields escape ability, speed, elusiveness and arm strength. Needs to take care of the ball more, yes and needs to speed up a bit more consistently. He's improved as a passer year over year, you're nuts to move on from him. I am done with his fumbling, he needs to fix that there isn't an excuse to lose the football unless you're getting strip sacked and that rarely happens, it is usually his fault. Also unnecessary sacks but I can live with those, as long as he takes care of the ball.

BUT, fumbles lost he's still not even in the top 10. That stat is overblown among haters of the QB1 to try and convince themselves he isn't' the one.

So there are 15 players with more fumbles lost than Justin Fields since start of the 2022 season. Fumbles lost rate is 53.4% for those players.
Justin Fields fumbles lost rate is 26.1%. Tua is the only other player below 40%. Kinda of a strange anomaly.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

I still don't get the things we've heard/read that Luke Getsy is so highly regarded around the league.

 

[Moses Moreno]

Chase Daniel does a Tuesday hit with Parkins and Spiegel and he was talking about the turnovers. He compared Fields (in this aspect - bold not for you) to Aaron Rodgers when it came to INTs. He was saying that Rodgers takes a lot of sacks because in his mind it's better to lose the yards than the ball. Especially considering Rodgers has the confidence that he can make the next play. Maybe, maaaaaybe, that is how Fields also thinks.

I see the Rodgers influence in Justin's game. He right now errs on the side of caution in terms of tight window throws because he's avoiding INTs and he knows his legs/scrambling ability can bail him out.
His on script confidence is growing but his off script ability is fucking rare. He's ascending.

 

[Bears4Ever_34]

Lol wut?

Do you actually have an argument to counter anything I've said?

 

[sevvy]

Oh no, not QBR!



Get the **** out of here with that bullshit.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

I see the Rodgers influence in Justin's game. He right now errs on the side of caution in terms of tight window throws because he's avoiding INTs and he knows his legs/scrambling ability can bail him out.
His on script confidence is growing but his off script ability is fucking rare. He's ascending.

100%

Anyone who compares him to Daniel Jones is watching a completely different game. I think #TeamJustin has always been fair in their assessment of him. Everyone on that side of the argument seems to acknowledge what he needs to improve upon to that guy, while certainly talking up what he does very well. #TeamIdiot seems to do cognitive twister in their criticisms of Justin.

That said, I'm obviously #TeamJustin, so I'll admit my bias when I make those comments.

 

[PrideisBears]

Lamar says “hi”.

Fields is faster and more elusive imo

 

[Calabis]

And this is what we want to invest in next year? He will end up somewhere around 17-21 when the year is over. This is smelling like Daniel Jones before his contract. It’s time to move on people. Fields would at best be top 15 next year. That’s just not good enough

NFL quarterbacks by Total QBR: Where Bears' Justin Fields ranks in Week 15

Here’s how NFL quarterbacks, including Bears QB Justin Fields, stack up by QBR in Week 15.

bearswire.usatoday.com

Saw this back in 2018...QBR is a pathetic stat and only used by morons trying to use it as a be all. Already posted articles how pathetic it was......and found this from back then

If we look at the stat kines of the 2 starting QBs.
Tannehill
20/28, 230 yards, 2TDs, 2Ints.
1 sack
Traditional efficiency stats.
NFL passer rating: 89.9
Y/A: 8.2
Adjusted Y/A 6.4

Marcus Mariota
9/16, 103 yards, 0TDs, 2Ints
0 sacks
NFL passer rating: 36.2
Y/A: 6.4
Adjusted Y/A: 0.8

So by traditional methods Tannehill had the more efficient afternoon.

After watching the game both QBs had some swings and roundabouts, some missed interceptions and some some missed opportunities for more catches. It’s not like the rceivers were bailing Tannehill out by making freakish catches and Mariota’s receivers were bobbling perfectly thrown balls into interceptions. From my seat the non-QB element wasn’t going hugely in the favor of one player or another.
There were no fumbles by either QB
Rushing: Tannehill 4 for 4 yards, 0TDs - but 2 of those attempts were kneel down to end each half.
Mariota: 3 for 15 yards 0TDs
So nothing that moves the needle too much

But according to ESPN
Tannehill: 34.3
Mariota: 37.4

I totally get ESPN’s qbr giving Mariota a failing grade, traditional stats do too, but I can’t see how ESPN’s magic number box can give Tannehill a grade worse than Mariota and retain any credibility.

 

[Bears4Ever_34]

Isn't this what people wanted to see out of him this season?

Yes, but we have the #1 pick in the draft, which means the standards should be higher. I've already said that if it weren't for the #1 pick, I would be fine giving Fields another year. But that isn't the reality.

Eye-test wise, he still struggles with the same things that have plagued him his whole career. I don't see anticipatory throws. He still holds the ball and takes too many sacks; he still sinks too often in the pocket and doesn't step up while keeping his eyes down field. He has DJ Moore now, which helps, but the consistency just isn't there.

He is still the worst quarterback in all of football in the 4th quarter, and has been each of the past two seasons. I can't just ignore that.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Fields is faster and more elusive imo

They’re both in the team photo. I’ll leave it at that.

 

[Calabis]

So, Fitzpatrick had fewer wins, completions, completion percentage, yards (by almost 1,000!), touchdowns, Y/A, Y/C, QB rating and more interceptions. But his QBR is 76.7, third in the league, while Brady is slumming it at 73.9, good for fifth. Yeah. I don’t know either.

ESPN's QBR is the dumbest stat in sports (Tom Brady was fifth, behind Ryan Fitzpatrick!)

In 2011, ESPN tried to create a better way to rate quarterbacks, as the standard system — a ridiculous, indecipherable QB rating that had, for some reason, a maximum score of 158.3 — wa…

ftw.usatoday.com

 

[sevvy]

There isn't a single quarterback in the NFL that has Fields escape ability, speed, elusiveness and arm strength. Needs to take care of the ball more, yes and needs to speed up a bit more consistently. He's improved as a passer year over year, you're nuts to move on from him. I am done with his fumbling, he needs to fix that there isn't an excuse to lose the football unless you're getting strip sacked and that rarely happens, it is usually his fault. Also unnecessary sacks but I can live with those, as long as he takes care of the ball.

BUT, fumbles lost he's still not even in the top 10. That stat is overblown among haters of the QB1 to try and convince themselves he isn't' the one.

It's really funny how much people cite fumbles and not FUMBLES LOST, which is the stat that ACTUALLY matters. And if you compare Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence with fumbles lost, people would probably be shocked. Because it's not really a narrative for Lawrence, but he's lost a LOT more fumbles than Fields. Hmmmm...