Justin Fields is currently ranked 21st in QBR for the year

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Hmmmmm, no need to debate or talk to QBR morons
 

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LOL. Stats are so funny. If Fields was #1 in QBR everyone here mocking that stat would be screaming it from the mountain tops.
 

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First off congratulations on realizing 21 comes after 20...well since it was a question maybe you don't realize that


Second, the QBR ratings are all of season starters other than Zach Wilson, Gardner Minshew and Josh Dobbs, if all three are removed and replaced with their starters QBR for the season Fields moves up 3 spots.

Sorry you are confused. And since no one has confirmed it for you yet, yes 21 does come after 20. Gold star for you today.
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It's really funny how much people cite fumbles and not FUMBLES LOST, which is the stat that ACTUALLY matters. And if you compare Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence with fumbles lost, people would probably be shocked. Because it's not really a narrative for Lawrence, but he's lost a LOT more fumbles than Fields. Hmmmm... 🤔


Or MAYBE….. the HITS philosophy preaches HUSTLE and the Bears are just REALLY GOOD and covering Justin’s balls!!! Ever think of that? Huh huh huh?
 

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Yes, but we have the #1 pick in the draft, which means the standards should be higher. I've already said that if it weren't for the #1 pick, I would be fine giving Fields another year. But that isn't the reality.

Eye-test wise, he still struggles with the same things that have plagued him his whole career. I don't see anticipatory throws. He still holds the ball and takes too many sacks; he still sinks too often in the pocket and doesn't step up while keeping his eyes down field. He has DJ Moore now, which helps, but the consistency just isn't there.

He is still the worst quarterback in all of football in the 4th quarter, and has been each of the past two seasons. I can't just ignore that.
You should listen to Kurt Warner and Chase Daniel when they talk about Fields. Each of them have stated that he has steadily improved, and have provided explanations for some of the others things you have said.
 

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you watched the last game and came away with his legs aren't what they used to be? LOLz wut?
Did you even read the post? I specifically stated that every team BUT DET has been able to limit his explosive runs this year. The longest run he's had all season is 29 yards. His YPC and YPG are down considerably from last year. He's still effective with it, but it hasn't been Lamar Jackson-esque like it was last year.
 

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Do you actually have an argument to counter anything I've said?
I do. Fields says he doesn’t want to run, he has said it since the beginning of the season that’s why his numbers are down. His ints are down, his completion percentage is up, more accurate with his throws, leads WRs, throws with more anticipation etc
 

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Yes, but we have the #1 pick in the draft, which means the standards should be higher. I've already said that if it weren't for the #1 pick, I would be fine giving Fields another year. But that isn't the reality.

Eye-test wise, he still struggles with the same things that have plagued him his whole career. I don't see anticipatory throws. He still holds the ball and takes too many sacks; he still sinks too often in the pocket and doesn't step up while keeping his eyes down field. He has DJ Moore now, which helps, but the consistency just isn't there.

He is still the worst quarterback in all of football in the 4th quarter, and has been each of the past two seasons. I can't just ignore that.
So if Carolina had a better record your standards would be lower and give him another year?
 

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So if Carolina had a better record your standards would be lower and give him another year?
Correct. Williams is the only quarterback I'd rather have than Fields, which means it would take more production from Fields to make me pass up Williams.
 
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Or MAYBE….. the HITS philosophy preaches HUSTLE and the Bears are just REALLY GOOD and covering Justin’s balls!!! Ever think of that? Huh huh huh?
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So if Carolina had a better record your standards would be lower and give him another year?
This is such a great point that I wanted it repeated.
 

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LOL. Stats are so funny. If Fields was #1 in QBR everyone here mocking that stat would be screaming it from the mountain tops.
No they wouldn't, because 99% of suppprtive fans onn here don't brag about him like he is Tom Brady...the haters try to boost their idiotic bullshit, by one, acting if u like Fields, u think he is Tom Bradiy elite, or if they point out good things statistically that matter for other QBs in league, the haters run to QBR, or fumbles, and at the same time excuse other QBs who turn it over more.

Simple Fields is 24, improving and has huge upside if he gets there.....yet people acting like Nagy and a depleted roster for rebuild, in his 1st two years is all they need to see. Those same people can't even throw a football past 20 yards...but they know QB play at the highest level.
 

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Correct. Williams is the only quarterback I'd rather have than Fields, which means it would take more production from Fields to make me pass up Williams.
So you'd take a QB who's never produced in the NFL over a QB who has produced and is improving every year
 

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Chase Daniel does a Tuesday hit with Parkins and Spiegel and he was talking about the turnovers. He compared Fields (in this aspect - bold not for you) to Aaron Rodgers when it came to INTs. He was saying that Rodgers takes a lot of sacks because in his mind it's better to lose the yards than the ball. Especially considering Rodgers has the confidence that he can make the next play. Maybe, maaaaaybe, that is how Fields also thinks.

Here is the link for that...but what does Chase know compared to CBMB QB analyst. Also in his 13 play breakdown, he shows the play where they said Kmet is wide in seem....yet his eyes are to bottom of screen, ref read, he comes up looking where Kmet should be...Chase says Kmet was suppose to come over to huge green area, but decided to run up seem. Fields scrambles makes insane, beyond elite throw, to Kmet, that is called back.
 

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So you'd take a QB who's never produced in the NFL over a QB who has produced and is improving every year
Yes, because I view Williams as a better prospect with a much higher upside as a passer than Justin Fields. Also, it resets the quarterback clock and buys you more time to build a better roster around a young quarterback.

Obviously, there is risk involved, otherwise this wouldn't even be a conversation. If you think Fields still can be special, then you're probably going to want to keep him. I don't, but I think there is merit to the other side of the argument, even if I'm not fully on board with it.
 

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Did you even read the post? I specifically stated that every team BUT DET has been able to limit his explosive runs this year. The longest run he's had all season is 29 yards. His YPC and YPG are down considerably from last year. He's still effective with it, but it hasn't been Lamar Jackson-esque like it was last year.
it's not even fucking close lol

 

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LOL, Mitch was #3 in the 2018 QBR rankings.

I guess the OP thinks he should have been extended.

Dak was 17, Lamar 31 and Josh 24.
 
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He missed 4 games and is behind Lamar by about 200 yards, what exactly are you cunting about?
 

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