Kane and Toews Extension - 8 Years $88 Million?

[PatrickShart]

You're not. Washington is


And what's the value of 200+ hits and 150 blocked shots?

 

[PatrickShart]

And so that's what character and Leadership is to you. There's zero value to that and team chemistry


Makes complete sense why you rely on corsi to tell you the value of a player and your biggest gripe on the game is visors and physicality

 

[PatrickShart]

I guess Sakic is one of those idiot GMs you talk about. The guy was a pretty good player in his day, in case you didn't know - and made a point to add Briere, Iginla, and Stuart. All older than Orpik and do nothing but yell to the teammates from the bench

 

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Didn't say zero value, said it was intangible. And paying that kind of money for that, in this case, is just throwing away money and potentially  throwing away more money when he gets bought out a season or two from now. All it does it just add to the cluster **** that is the Washington Capitals.</p>

 

[PatrickShart]

Or...And stay with me ....he's being paid that to help straighten out what was the custerfuck they had going on there. That feel that paying him that, can help both the new coach and give a different direction to a team that needs it. His loud yelling of 'go get them' is something they value and are hoping it changes the team dynamics

 

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lol there is no comparison with Iginla, he's still a very highly effective player. Probably will be for at least the next year or two. Stuart was brought in because they DESPERATELY need help for their blue line. The Briere trade was more or less for cap space the following year, he has an expiring contract while PA still had another year with 4m owed.</p>

 

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His loud yelling of 'go get them' is something they value and are hoping it changes the team dynamics</p>
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Well I wish them luck with that. How do you think he's going to help with changing the dynamics when it's his contract that becomes part of the problem in doing so and they realize what they've done to themselves? He's going to get bought out, that's what's going to happen. And all it becomes is a waste of time and money. They had opportunities to do other things with that cap space.</p>

 

[PatrickShart]

All 3 pm the downside, but justified by you

So Colorado, who won the central, was desperate for d help, but Washington wasn't? You even said that washington was a cluster, so aren't they desperate for leadership? Doesn't that signing fit 2 needs?


Iginlia who's 3 years older, signs a 3 year deal at the same price is ok, but not Orpik. And his stats have been declining as well as his skating


I guess you pick and choose who it's ok for and who is atrocious

 

[the canadian dream]

Orpik still sucks.</p>


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgIgat2GBRI</p>


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**** Orpik</p>

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

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Orpik still sucks.</p>


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgIgat2GBRI</p>


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**** Orpik</p>
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Shut the **** up T.T. Openmouth.</p>


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This is Jimmy Keno and Corsi McVisor's argument.</p>

 

[winos5]

More like Chazz Michael Michaels and Jimmy MacElroy</p>

 

[PatrickShart]

Yeah TT...listen to Rufus Brownfinger

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

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Yeah TT...listen to Rufus Brownfinger</p>
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LMFAO</p>

 

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Washington is desperate for a front office that knows what they're doing. They don't. They fucked themselves over  well before they ever signed Orpik with how they've been handling that organization. His signing just a continuation of it. It's going to take a hell of a lot more than him (who if they let him stick around will become the highest paid bottom pairing d-man in the league in a year or two) to change things around.</p>


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And yeah, those Colorado signings are different. Stuart ONE year left on his deal. Briere ONE year left on his deal. No cap space is tied up beyond this season for those two. The Avs opened up an additional 4 million for next season. Iginla (who may retire before his contract is up) is still playing well (and who didn't sign for the same contract length as Orpik) and takes up the cap space Statsny occupied, and they need to re-sign O'Reilly and Barrie with what they have leftover (around 10 million). They had to choose between signing Stastny or multiple other players. These teams are in different situations. Vastly different situations.</p>

 

[the canadian dream]

Caps have 6 American born blueliners. That's waaay too many Americans on the blueline. Yanks dont play defense. </p>

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

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Caps have 6 American born blueliners. That's waaay too many Americans on the blueline. Yanks dont play defense. </p>
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Ever heard of Ryan Suter dipshit?</p>

 

[the canadian dream]

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Ever heard of Ryan Suter dipshit?</p>
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yah thats the guy making 12 mill a season right now ( over two times as much as Keith) and who sucked balls at the Olympics with his pal Orpik. Ribeiro plays better D than Suter. Come on ****** give me another Yanky.</p>

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

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yah thats the guy making 12 mill a season right now ( over two times as much as Keith) and who sucked balls at the Olympics with his pal Orpik. Ribeiro plays better D than Suter. Come on ****** give me another Yanky.</p>
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Ever heard of Ryan McDonagh dipshit?</p>

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Man the name Ryan really is a good one.............................................</p>

 

[the canadian dream]

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Ever heard of Ryan McDonagh dipshit?</p>
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yah too bad he was BORN in Toronto asshole.</p>


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we are talking about the center right?</p>