Keto and Intermittent Fasting

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Is that pork rinds? If so, yes please.
I've had pork skins which is all I've ever seen in our area. Actually have seen some pork rinds in Target but they were labeled as 40% less fat. WTF does a keto guy want with less fat? Is there a difference between pork skins and pork rinds
 

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I've had pork skins which is all I've ever seen in our area. Actually have seen some pork rinds in Target but they were labeled as 40% less fat. WTF does a keto guy want with less fat? Is there a difference between pork skins and pork rinds

Same thing. Also called chicharron. Best keto snack.
 

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scrunchions or cracklin are not the same as rinds. Rinds are the skin fried or deep fried to make an airy and crunchy snack. Scrunchions are rinds with a layer of fat, salted and fried in a pan until fat is rendered.
 

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scrunchions or cracklin are not the same as rinds. Rinds are the skin fried or deep fried to make an airy and crunchy snack. Scrunchions are rinds with a layer of fat, salted and fried in a pan until fat is rendered.

I think rinds are also skins/chicharron. Cracklins have the fat cap. Scrunchions are then cracklins?
 

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scrunchions or cracklin are not the same as rinds. Rinds are the skin fried or deep fried to make an airy and crunchy snack. Scrunchions are rinds with a layer of fat, salted and fried in a pan until fat is rendered.
So much more fat in the scrunchions/cracklins? Sounds like something begging to be added to my Keto repertoire.
 

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So much more fat in the scrunchions/cracklins? Sounds like something begging to be added to my Keto repertoire.

Or if you have a good mexican market you can ask for chicharrones. Good ones always have the fat layer
 

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So may different terms here. To be clear, scrunchions are made from pork fatback. Not lard, not rinds.
 

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Think there's no doubt you missed the overall message here. Counting calories is something some people do and it can serve as somewhat of a guide for them so long as everything they eat and do remains the same. Still, your body is not regulated by the number of calories and treats different macronutrients differently. Would be far more advantageous and sensible to track those macronutrients that control the hormones that control your body weight. Once you understand this is a hormonal thing and gear what you eat more to allow these hormones to work optimally, your weight will normalize with no pain or suffering on your part.

You also continue to look at that small insignificant piece of the puzzle rather than attempt to solve the puzzle. Your main tip of "always be lifting weights" is not natural and you cannot expect the majority of people to always do it. The overwhelming majority do not do it nor have the time to do it and ask yourself is weight lifting regularly something you can sustain throughout your life. For 99%, I'd have to say hell no. Look at how long mankind has existed and grown by leaps and bounds without adhering to your #1 pro tip. Our bodies were designed to take care of us. Man never came with a set of instructions that said, "must lift to maintain". Am I saying lifting weights is bad for you? No. It's a biohack that can bring you very positive results if done correctly, which most people who even do lift semi-regularly also don't do. I don't see it as a long term solution though nor as the type solution one could reasonably expect to impact the majority of people.

So back to working with the body's fast and feast way of doing things. Back to concerning ourselves with how our hormones work. Back to reducing the level of insulin, the fat blocker, for longer periods of time. Time to forget all the bad advice that's been put out like propaganda for far too long like, "calories in/calories out", "breakfast is the most important meal of the day", "eat several small meals throughout the day", "eating too much fat is a health risk", "more grain, more fruits", "More carbs, low fat", ahhh more bullshit.

You give tips, I'll give facts.

- Insulin blocks access to stored fat and no macronutrient raises insulin more than carbs
- Studies have shown men’s testosterone levels are proportional to fat intake. A high fat diet also increases HGH secretion at night
- Going longer periods of time (as with IF) affords the body daily opportunity to burn fat on its own
- Higher fat diets are most effective in preserving muscle mass
- The production of HGH has been shown to increase by 2000% in men when doing a 24 hour fast
- Short term fasting w/IF has been shown to increase metabolic rate by 4-14%
- Fasting has been shown to increase longevity, in studies w/mice, by 83%
- Studies have shown low carb dieters lose 3 times more weight, on average, than low fat dieters

I love how you say that it's not too hard for people to lift weights....... YET, it's so fucking east to not eat sugar and refined carbs!!! Like are you fucking kidding me? Pizza is like half of the entire country's favorite food. A lot of people have a hard enough time going without ice cream in a day, let alone giving it up for extended periods of time.

I never denied that hormones play a role. They do. And some people are drawn a worse deck than others and have to work a lot harder to maintain their weight.

Look, the keto diet is the number 1 trending diet. More people are on it than any other diet. And its been that way for several years now. Yet, obesity rates keep going up.

https://stateofobesity.org/adult-obesity/

Just because you found a solution to your problems, doesn't mean that it will work for everyone. The major problem (despite what you say about it being easy to maintain) it that people can't comply to it. It's too damn restrictive and the number of people that fail and give up on it is high. And it acts as a double whammy because when you reduce your net carbs to practically nothing, and then give up and take in loads and loads, you put on fat at an faster rate than someone that dieted down with higher carbs and stopped their diet. The studies show this.

You have to completely change your lifestyle if you want to keep the weight off. Congrats that you are able to. Most people can't do that.
 

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Never understood why so many people like pork rinds. They taste like rice cakes to me. Rather just literally eat the skin off a pig if that was what I was going for keto wise.
 

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Didshe still doesn't understand
 

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"too damn restrictive" - except you're literally not acknowledging the fact that you stop craving those garbage carbs after a week or 2 of being on keto. The longer you're on, the less you crave. The less you crave food in general.

If you did keto for a month, you'd realize "craving ice cream and pizza" becomes not a thing. Your body and mind adapts. Stop discouraging something you're too much of a coward to even attempt.
 

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"too damn restrictive" - except you're literally not acknowledging the fact that you stop craving those garbage carbs after a week or 2 of being on keto. The longer you're on, the less you crave. The less you crave food in general.

If you did keto for a month, you'd realize "craving ice cream and pizza" becomes not a thing. Your body and mind adapts. Stop discouraging something you're too much of a coward to even attempt.

If that was true, there would be no need for these sites selling fake cookies and donuts to make people satisfy their cravings. 100s of reviews.

https://www.paleobakehouse.com/collections/bundles/products/keto-cookie-and-donut-bundle

And if it were true, it would be working. People wouldn't be getting fatter. Yet, we both know that's not true.
 

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If that was true, there would be no need for these sites selling fake cookies and donuts to make people satisfy their cravings. 100s of reviews.

https://www.paleobakehouse.com/collections/bundles/products/keto-cookie-and-donut-bundle

And if it were true, it would be working. People wouldn't be getting fatter. Yet, we both know that's not true.

Yeah, because everyone who tries keto does it correctly right?

Sugar alcohols are a whole other argument. In fact, I was considering making a thread on this very subject because of this common misconception.

As to your 2nd point, I'm not sure what the **** you're even saying. I could say "If the classic "calorie in calorie out" diet was working, people wouldn't be getting fatter" but that would be Special person.

If you're doing a true ketogenic diet, you don't eat garbage fake cookies and donuts. Try it for a month. Report back. Don't be a coward. back your shit up.
 

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