Kevin Barkley vs Charles Durant thread formerly AtL

[remydat]

This same Special person bullshit was being said when the Heat got together in 2010...they went to four straight Finals and won two.

The heat play in the East which is easier. Also, it's a fact they are currently thin at PF/C and they have less money to fill out a team. At no point did I claim it means they won't win so not sure you concern with factual statements.

If they weren't thin at PF/C, they wouldn't have signed David West to a vet minimum contract.

 

[Alpha Male]

The heat play in the East which is easier. Also, it's a fact they are currently thin at PF/C and they have less money to fill out a team. At no point did I claim it means they won't win so not sure you concern with factual statements.

If they weren't thin at PF/C, they wouldn't have signed David West to a vet minimum contract.

The heat did benefit from playing in the east but to to be honest the west is now all warriors and maybe the spurs. The rest have no chance.

 

[PolarBear]

The NBA is basically a 3 horse race and 2 of them are still a class above the other.

Warriors
Cavs





Spurs

 

[Axl Rose]

i believe its possible to have too much talent. KD on the Warriors is just so excessive it'll be interesting to see how it works. i think the way they had it was the perfect balance that showcased all 3 guys talents.

adding another guy that wants 20 shots a night is def gonna throw a wrinkle in that. I'm suspecting Dray is gonna pretty much be regulated to the garbage man while KD takes over his role.

 

[SilenceS]

i believe its possible to have too much talent. KD on the Warriors is just so excessive it'll be interesting to see how it works. i think as they had it was the perfect balance that showcased all 3 guys talents.

adding another guy that wants 20 shots a night is def gonna throw a wrinkle in that. I'm suspecting Dray is gonna pretty much be the garbage man while KD takes over his role

Why? KD left OKC because of his frustration on the little ball movement on offense. He wants to be in a system where the ball is moving around and you are getting quick easy shots. Everyone is going to have to make a little sacrifice. This isnt like none of them were involved in this. Curry, Thompson, and Green were all involved in the pitch to Durant. They want this as much as anyone.

 

[NCChiFan]

i believe its possible to have too much talent. KD on the Warriors is just so excessive it'll be interesting to see how it works. i think as they had it was the perfect balance that showcased all 3 guys talents.

adding another guy that wants 20 shots a night is def gonna throw a wrinkle in that. I'm suspecting Dray is gonna pretty much be regulated to the garbage man while KD takes over his role.

Just think about how many open shots Barnes had later year. Now substitute Durant. Enough said.

 

[Benchmob757]

Why? KD left OKC because of his frustration on the little ball movement on offense. He wants to be in a system where the ball is moving around and you are getting quick easy shots. Everyone is going to have to make a little sacrifice. This isnt like none of them were involved in this. Curry, Thompson, and Green were all involved in the pitch to Durant. They want this as much as anyone.

Yeah they were all involved in the pitch and they want him there, but it's something that's easier said than done. Bosh struggled being the 3rd option, Kevin love struggled with it too. It's tough. I don't doubt that they can do it but there will be times it'll be hard.

It's like dating a super attractive girl. Sounds like an awesome idea, but the better looking she is, the bigger headache she is. Pros and cons.


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[FirstTimer]

The heat play in the East .

This is about the only sports related thought you've ever gotten right...except Heat should be capitalized so you even messed this up.

Also, it's a fact they are currently thin at PF/C and they have less money to fill out a team.

Great thought by remy here.

Team signs player...thus has less money to fill out rest of team. This may be the first time this has ever happened in sports.

This ranks up there with ChiSox original idea that if you sign a player he can't then sign with another team!

If they weren't thin at PF/C, they wouldn't have signed David West to a vet minimum contract.

David West sells himself out for the second straight year = Warriors are thin.

Good thoughts.

 

[AussieBear]

ray allen may return... eyeing warriors..

http://www.espn.com.au/nba/story/_/...-golden-state-warriors-considering-return-nba

 

[clonetrooper264]

i believe its possible to have too much talent. KD on the Warriors is just so excessive it'll be interesting to see how it works. i think the way they had it was the perfect balance that showcased all 3 guys talents.

adding another guy that wants 20 shots a night is def gonna throw a wrinkle in that. I'm suspecting Dray is gonna pretty much be regulated to the garbage man while KD takes over his role.

The Warriors are an unselfish team so I don't think it'll be a hinderance at all. Like Silence said, this was most likely discussed already when Durant was recruited. Everyone will find a way to get theirs, and not only that, but they'll help each other do so.

 

[Novak]

ray allen may return... eyeing warriors..

http://www.espn.com.au/nba/story/_/...-golden-state-warriors-considering-return-nba

Just what the warriors need, another jump shooter.

Seems legit.

 

[The Hawk]

Why? KD left OKC because of his frustration on the little ball movement on offense. He wants to be in a system where the ball is moving around and you are getting quick easy shots. Everyone is going to have to make a little sacrifice. This isnt like none of them were involved in this. Curry, Thompson, and Green were all involved in the pitch to Durant. They want this as much as anyone.

I think that they have the right coach there to manage all of these stars. After all, Kerr played with the biggest star of them all in Jordan and had other stars with him on those great teams. The Warriors are gonna be an awesome team for sure.

 

[remydat]

This is about the only sports related thought you've ever gotten right...except Heat should be capitalized so you even messed this up.

Great thought by remy here.

Team signs player...thus has less money to fill out rest of team. This may be the first time this has ever happened in sports.

This ranks up there with ChiSox original idea that if you sign a player he can't then sign with another team!

David West sells himself out for the second straight year = Warriors are thin.

Good thoughts.

Now you are being a jackass. Obviously singing Durant for 20+ million a year puts a constraint on things which is why they then rescinded their rights to Ezeli and traded Bogut. That's a little different than just signing someone for like 5 million a year.

And I said they were thin at PF/C which they were. Before West, they had Green, Speights and Varejao. That's thin at PF/C.

It's like you haven't picked an argument with me in some time so you got bored and decided you would do so over the dumbest thing. There were factual statements.

 

[FirstTimer]

Obviously singing Durant for 20+ million a year puts a constraint on things

No way!!

And I said they were thin at PF/C which they were. Before West, they had Green, Speights and Varejao. That's thin at PF/C.

Hi! Durant will also play PF in lineups!

There were factual statements.

Yes, it was very factual to say that the Warriors spent money and now have less money under the cap to spend on other players. Fascinating. Thanks for the insight.

 

[FirstTimer]

I also like remy implying that the Warriors signing David West is some sort of sign of them being desperate to cobble together the PF/C position or that West wouldn't have been a target of them anyways.

David West started 20 games last year and played somewhere around 20mpg last year for the Spurs. He was a positive value player by PER (17.6) and overall is still a quality NBA big. This isn't the Heat signing the ghost of Juwan Howard to fill out the roster in 2010.

 

[remydat]

No way!!

Hi! Durant will also play PF in lineups!

Yes, it was very factual to say that the Warriors spent money and now have less money under the cap to spend on other players. Fascinating. Thanks for the insight.

Yes he will replace Barnes in their Death lineup but Barnes was a SF playing PF as is Durant. Glad we agree on the facts.

I also like remy implying that the Warriors signing David West is some sort of sign of them being desperate to cobble together the PF/C position or that West wouldn't have been a target of them anyways.

David West started 20 games last year and played somewhere around 20mpg last year for the Spurs. He was a positive value player by PER (17.6) and overall is still a quality NBA big. This isn't the Heat signing the ghost of Juwan Howard to fill out the roster in 2010.

Nope I never implied that at all. That's your strawman. I said it's proof they recognize they were thin at PF/C and that they are limited salary cap wise. There is always the potential to get decent players as long as they are willing to take the vet minimum.

 

[FirstTimer]

Nope I never implied that at all. That's your strawman. I said it's proof they recognize they were thin at PF/C and that they are limited salary cap wise. There is always the potential to get decent players as long as they are willing to take the vet minimum.

No, it's simply proof that West was available and a good player and the Warriors are trying to get good players.

West was willing to take the vet minimum to go to GS because of what they had.

This is the second straight season West has played mercenary for reduced cost. Do you not follow the NBA?

Remy: "GS was thin at PF despite just signing Durant to play PF."

Maybe he's just referring to Durant's build?

 

[clonetrooper264]

I am still in disbelief that the Warriors chose to sign Durant. It really limits them on who they can sign for roster spots #10 through #12. They can only hope and pray that guys are willing to take the vet minimum. If the Durant signing isn't the definition of "short-sightedness", then I don't know what is.

Aren't you glad the Bulls didn't sign him and thus destroy their rebuilding, I mean retooling, effort?

 

[FirstTimer]

I heard that Durant was all set to sign with the Bulls, but GarPax didn't want to restructure Taj Gibson's contract, so the deal fell through. The Bulls dodged a bullet.

I heard he was pissed the Bulls traded Bairstow.

 

[remydat]

No, it's simply proof that West was available and a good player and the Warriors are trying to get good players.

West was willing to take the vet minimum to go to GS because of what they had.

This is the second straight season West has played mercenary for reduced cost. Do you not follow the NBA?

Remy: "GS was thin at PF despite just signing Durant to play PF."

Maybe he's just referring to Durant's build?

They likely signed Durant to play SF and PF and it remains to be seen where he ends up spending the bulk of his time. They signed West because they needed a guy who is a legit PF. I doubt the Warriors want Durant spending the bulk of his time at PF because the Death lineup is more effective when they aren't playing a ton of minutes.