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You wrote "But that goes directly to increased value and in effect overall revenue", I agree with the first part, but not the second. If the McCaskeys build a new McStadium for the Bears, the Bears value will increase, but revenue (bottom line) will not change very much at all. Stadiums lose money, I know that sounds counter-intuitive, but that is the case. If stadiums made money, people would be building them everywhere, but they only build them for identified major sports teams. If the McCaskeys build in Arlington, any other events in the facility will only go to offset some of the operational costs. If I had to bet, the McCaskeys will sell the Bears as soon as the Arlington deal is done and plans are approved. It is possible they could spend 1.5 billion on the development and then add 3 billion to the sales price. I think most commenters here on this blog think that a new stadium will make the Bears more competitive, it won't. They already get enough money from the league to max out player salaries as it is. This is all about rich people just trying to get richer...nothing more. It is not about the fans.But that goes directly to increased value and in effect overall revenue.
Here's the thing. Bears will likely dome their new facility but a dome is something they never asked for from the city. It has nothing to do with why they're leaving.
What is pathetic and desperate by the Bears? They want to have full control over their own stadium and maximize revenue. Its literally the smartest thing they've done in decades outside of firing your guy Ryan Pace. It sucks that you prefer to be on the lakefront and will miss that but this is way better for the Bears as an organization.This is such a pathetic desperate effort by the Bears and now the city to have this meaningless distinction of hosting one Super Bowl in this brand new stadium and then never again. The NFL would prefer to not even do that but this is part of their little stadium grift and each team that builds new digs (northern teams: only if they build a dome) gets an obligatory one.
But that's it, the league is not going to have their big game in a cold weather city more than once every eight-ish years. The last one was 2018 in Minneapolis and we don't even know when the next one is, the next four Super Bowls are all in the south. They want people to be able to golf and whatever, not freeze their asses off in Chicago in February.
You really don't get it. Putting that new stadium there also allows the Sports Book, Bears restaurant, Hotel and fan Shop etc at the site which would not exist without the stadium. All very positive revenue and part of the stadium complex. The move is not just about the stadium itself. In fact, as I've already mentioned, the final straw was not allowing the Bear a neighboring Sports Book to Solder Field. Also, a properly managed stadium can generate over $1/4B a year in revenue. Of course it will take time to pay off the nut but it's money well spent. Point is that it's profitable to THE TEAM and greatly increases its value.You wrote "But that goes directly to increased value and in effect overall revenue", I agree with the first part, but not the second. If the McCaskeys build a new McStadium for the Bears, the Bears value will increase, but revenue (bottom line) will not change very much at all. Stadiums lose money, I know that sounds counter-intuitive, but that is the case. If stadiums made money, people would be building them everywhere, but they only build them for identified major sports teams. If the McCaskeys build in Arlington, any other events in the facility will only go to offset some of the operational costs. If I had to bet, the McCaskeys will sell the Bears as soon as the Arlington deal is done and plans are approved. It is possible they could spend 1.5 billion on the development and then add 3 billion to the sales price. I think most commenters here on this blog think that a new stadium will make the Bears more competitive, it won't. They already get enough money from the league to max out player salaries as it is. This is all about rich people just trying to get richer...nothing more. It is not about the fans.
It makes no difference at all to their win total. The Vikings built their dome and have been a major dissappointment, the Lions play in the new Ford Field are have been just as garbage as they were the fifty seasons prior. It does nothing to move the needle for on-field success. Its a salary cap league, they can't take the money on spend it on better players.What is pathetic and desperate by the Bears? They want to have full control over their own stadium and maximize revenue. Its literally the smartest thing they've done in decades outside of firing your guy Ryan Pace. It sucks that you prefer to be on the lakefront and will miss that but this is way better for the Bears as an organization.
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Its ugly but I've come around on it. It fits what the Bears need and what the league is going for. The NFL is a TV show, its not about selling tickets to in-person games and hasn't been since forever.Am I the only one that likes the design, I like the new columns mixed with the traditional ones. This is how the last upgrade should have been.
I mean... thats a totally ridiculous argument because no one is saying they're going to win more games because they moved but because you went down this hilarious path, i'll have some fun and play along.It makes no difference at all to their win total. The Vikings built their dome and have been a major dissappointment, the Lions play in the new Ford Field are have been just as garbage as they were the fifty seasons prior. It does nothing to move the needle for on-field success. Its a salary cap league, they can't take the money on spend it on better players.
NFL teams don't make their money on ticket sales, it comes from the TV deal.I guess you want them back in Wrigley. Why should they care about an extra $2m per game (seats plus amenities/parking) or the extra events available to a modern facility? Can't wait until you complain about a SB going there.
No one even implied that it was their 'main' source of revenue.NFL teams don't make their money on ticket sales, it comes from the TV deal.
Ticket revenue is shared because the league founders were smart enough to know they need teams in cities of different sizes to survive and to keep a level playing field.NFL teams don't make their money on ticket sales, it comes from the TV deal.
No one does. The columns were kept as part of Historical status so that they could do the rebuild. Otherwise it would still be old Soldier field. Not long after, the historical status was lifted because it was just silly looking at that point and the original architecture was effectively destroyed. Soldier Field is no more a Bears tradition than Wrigley Field. I don't expect the new stadium to have Roman columns nor be named after chewing gum.Why can’t they just tear down the columns and rebuild them exactly the same only this time to fit outside an 85,000 seat modern stadium? Like anyone would give a fuck that it’s not the “authentic” columns built 100 years ago.
Its ugly but I've come around on it. It fits what the Bears need and what the league is going for. The NFL is a TV show, its not about selling tickets to in-person games and hasn't been since forever.
Thing looks great on TV (it really does, even if its ludicrously designed there is no better panning shot than Soldier Field with the skyline in the background) and the shitty weather late in the season creates an element of drama. Now we're going to a seventy-two degree, windless environment where the nearest major landmark is...I dont even know, is Woodfield Mall even that far out of town?...and going to claim this team will have anywhere near the same character? You relocate this team and you are ripping its heart out and hollowing out its soul for a quick buck.
Montucky wants them to stay put because of pretty shots of the skyline lol. As if they can't show the same shit on his TV in Montona if they are playing at a different stadium. I mean the logic is just not there for him not matter how much he tries.I mean... thats a totally ridiculous argument because no one is saying they're going to win more games because they moved but because you went down this hilarious path, i'll have some fun and play along.
The Vikings since opening their new stadium have won 54 games in 6 years and have made the NFCC. The 6 years prior to that they won 42 games and didn't make the NFCC. So statistics clearly show that opening a new stadium = more wins. I'm not going to look up the Lions because i dont want my computer to get cancer.
I can't believe this needs to be said but this isn't about wins. Its about revenue. It's a business. It's about being able to control your own building because they're sick of not controlling the field conditions because Miley Cyrus had a concert two nights before and decided to take a country dump on the field. And maybe they do handle football business differently with more money and a dome. Maybe players would be more likely to play somewhere where they dont have to worry about getting tackled on concrete grass 8-9 games a season. Maybe having that extra money makes it more likely that they'll eat contracts of GMs and HCs who clearly should be fired?
It's crazy that anyone would think its smarter to stay somewhere where you cant even control your own home field and you are minimizing revenue by having one of the most popular franchises in football play in the second smallest stadium in the league in one of the biggest markets in the country. Lunacy.
Imagine running a business, not to maximize profit, but to maximize nostalgia and skyline views. Incredible.Montucky wants them to stay put because of pretty shots of the skyline lol. As if they can't show the same shit on his TV in Montona if they are playing at a different stadium. I mean the logic is just not there for him not matter how much he tries.
Its not my business. Its not yours, either.Imagine running a business, not to maximize profit, but to maximize nostalgia and skyline views. Incredible.