LOL At Jeff Samardzija.

[nickofypres]

I didn't realize how old Samardzija was.

 

[brett05]

http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/...traded-this-offseason-what-would-he-be-worth/



I dunno if this is speculation on the authors part of if there are legit sources here but I find it interesting that a mentioned a number of these same teams earlier in the thread.

Shark is for a team missing a piece to be serious threats that do not have young internal options. Maybe Washington fits that bill.

 

[Boobaby1]

Shark is for a team missing a piece to be serious threats that do not have young internal options. Maybe Washington fits that bill.

He will go to any team that is in a win now mode. That fits a lot of teams.

It is just who thinks he is worth it wants to give up some really good talent, and who doesn't?

 

[brett05]

He will go to any team that is in a win now mode. That fits a lot of teams.

It is just who thinks he is worth it wants to give up some really good talent, and who doesn't?

You mean he'll go to any team since he has no control but as a free agent Shark is most likely looking at teams that are not rebuilding.

Right?

 

[jooo83]

The only thing I wish to see is if the Cubs do indeed trade Samardzija, I hope it is for more young arms because the organization is truly lacking in this department.

If the Cubs could nab Tanaka and trade Shark for some high-profiled prospect arms, the Cubs could IMO could sign Wood to an extension, and have the possibilities of Tanaka, Hendricks, Edwards, Johnson, Viscaino and other arms hopefully acquired in a Samardzija deal pushing guys like Arrieta and Jackson to perform.

As far as free agents go, they can re-sign Baker and maybe a Colby Lewis both to short deals for the starting staff, and by the time their contracts are up (or they get dealt to a contender), some youth could be hitting the scene.

I don't believe any team would give up 'high-profiled prospect arms' for Samardzija, but I fully agree that the cubs are lacking quality arms in the minor leagues. For all the praise the FO gets for rebuilding the farm system not enough conversation centers on the lack of high quality arms. You obviously want to be balanced on both sides, but pitching still wins championships.

 

[Boobaby1]

You mean he'll go to any team since he has no control but as a free agent Shark is most likely looking at teams that are not rebuilding.

Right?

Pretty much. To a competitor like Shark, you would have to think that it would be frustrating to have any spec of talent around being traded off for prospects.

I don't know what Sharks goals are, but I hope it's a win-win for both sides which ever direction they go.

 

[Boobaby1]

I don't believe any team would give up 'high-profiled prospect arms' for Samardzija, but I fully agree that the cubs are lacking quality arms in the minor leagues. For all the praise the FO gets for rebuilding the farm system not enough conversation centers on the lack of high quality arms. You obviously want to be balanced on both sides, but pitching still wins championships.

You never know what teams will give up in a win now mode. It happens all the time, and the Cubs will get something close to what they want if he indeed is traded.

I am not over-valuing Shark by any means, but Shark is not a piece of junk either. He has very good value.

You pretty much know what you are going to get with Shark. Prospects are just that.

Hell, look what Texas gave up for rental pitchers from the Cubs two years in a row. Albeit they were not elite, but to net (Edwards, Olt, Villanueva, and Hendricks) for rental pitchers is a pretty good haul.

The question is, what is the value for two years of control of Shark? This now brings low to mid-market teams into the mix as he would be affordable for two more years.

 

[beckdawg]

I don't believe any team would give up 'high-profiled prospect arms' for Samardzija, but I fully agree that the cubs are lacking quality arms in the minor leagues. For all the praise the FO gets for rebuilding the farm system not enough conversation centers on the lack of high quality arms. You obviously want to be balanced on both sides, but pitching still wins championships.

What do you define as a high profile arm? Because generally speaking any prospect rated outside the top say 20 in top 100 lists is usually considered a #2-3 starter at best and that's IF they make it which if they are say at AA is far from a given. Shark right now would be at worst a quality #3 starter with potential to be more. So, why wouldn't a team give up someone who at best is slightly better but is also several years away? If they aren't contenders I can see them avoiding him but if it's someone like say Pittsburgh why wouldn't they consider it? They aren't going to be able to throw $20 mil/year at a pitcher.