Losing Interest?

[Crystallas]

The Bulls have been well over the salary cap for the last 5 years...how is that seldom?

So you're saying that Jerry responds to criticism through actions? I wonder if Wade still thinks we're not a loyal team?(rhetorical question)

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

It's the same on this board. The Hawk would piss himself before he ever tried to challenge John Paxson. Know why? Because we know who John Paxson is, and we don't know who The Hawk is.


Really? Why would I challenge John Paxson. I would say to his face that I thought he was a not very good general manager, though. As for pissing my pants, Maybe you do that but I don't. Only time I pissed my pants was in combat

That's what you took from that post?

 

[Axl Rose]

As of 1995, the time when Scottie Pippen was eager to either be traded or be rid of Krause, he had never renegotiated a contract

i heard a story that they told Pippen to wait and they would take care of him....but he pushed for a deal right then so they gave him one....then when other guys started getting paid Pippen regretted his decision and wanted a do-over

any truth to this? if it is true then thats his own fault he was underpaid

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Anyone who thinks the Bulls FO didn't take care of Scottie is just trying to be a dick.

 

[The Hawk]

Anyone who thinks the Bulls FO didn't take care of Scottie is just trying to be a dick.

You are the dick. They had one of the best defensive SG's or Sf's in the history of the league and would not re-negotiate. **** Reinny and his two dickheads in the frot office.

 

[The Hawk]

Quote Originally Posted by clonetrooper264 View Post

The Bulls have been well over the salary cap for the last 5 years...how is that seldom?

So you're saying that Jerry responds to criticism through actions? I wonder if Wade still thinks we're not a loyal team?(rhetorical question)

They have NOT been well over the salary cap for the last five years. that is bullshit.

 

[The Hawk]

HE WAS GIVEN 3 SEASONS MORE THAN THE AVERAGE NBA COACH GETS. I've already linked the article in this thread. How do you miss it? And help me out here, how many wins in the Conference Finals did his regular season record ink him? The answer is 1. Thibs was given more of a chance than nearly every coach on average in the League. What more did you want?

First of all Thibs was not an "average NBA coach". He was and is a premier NBA coach. Who had a better record over his career as a head coach than Thibs? As for the conference finals stuff.......... when did he ever have a full team in those finals? When did he have his best players healthy in any of those finals? When did he ever have a complete balanced team?

The failure was Reinsdorf and his two stooges not Thibs. This team, with its lack of leadership will be going down and wasting a chance for success. That is all on Reinny and company. The most horseshit owner in Chicago and the worst management team also.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

https://ui.ppjol.com/mobile_welcome....com/stories/011999/LS0468.shtml#.Vl-77V9OLCR

Instead of allowing Pippen to sign as a free agent, the Bulls did a sign and trade allowing Pippen to average $13 million over 5 years. Again, this was instead of him going the free agent route where he could have gotten less. Yeah the FO were real dicks to him.

 

[The Hawk]

Just say you think he's cheap because he is Jewish and they are known to be cheap (which actually, in my experience, couldn't be further from the truth). We all know that is what you're trying to get at.

**** you, asshole. I am as far from anti-Jewish that you can get. So **** you again. I don't know what fucking nationality that you are but you are obviously a foul cretin that throws racist bombs at anyone he cannot argue with rationally. Where in the **** did I ever talk anything about Jews being cheap? Prove it, jag-off! I read your damn insults and understand that you are an insecure wimp that only gets satisfaction from insulting people from afar. You have called me a racist so many times that I have to believe that it is you indeed that have racist issues yourself. So who do you hate, loser. You've made up stories about me mocking your personal situation in life which was for the world to see a damned LIE. Why don't you crawl back in whatever hole that you secreted from and shut the hell up!

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

I'd think my nationality would be easy to guess.

 

[The Hawk]

Quote Originally Posted by The Hawk View Post

It's the same on this board. The Hawk would piss himself before he ever tried to challenge John Paxson. Know why? Because we know who John Paxson is, and we don't know who The Hawk is.


Really? Why would I challenge John Paxson. I would say to his face that I thought he was a not very good general manager, though. As for pissing my pants, Maybe you do that but I don't. Only time I pissed my pants was in combat

That's what you took from that post?

Yeah, a-hole. You basically called me a coward afraid of challenging John Paxson. Do you know what happens when a person generally pisses their pants? I do because it happened to me a couple of times. When you are faced with a possibility of death, a man can piss his pants. It just happens. It isn't voluntary. And it happened to me. I am not ashamed of it because it just happens.

But for you to make a joke of it as if I would be afraid of someone named John Paxson is a bunch of crap. You demeaned me as a coward. Trust me, I am no damned coward and have and could prove myself in whatever manner required.

 

[The Hawk]

Well for the most part they've been closer to $20 million over anyway. :shrug:

Come-on. $20M? Where? When? I remember when a lot was made when what they did with Marguis Teague to get them under the cap. Reinny is a cheap ****.

 

[RoseMVP1]

I almost wish we were terrible so we'd have a chance at Ben Simmons. He's just on another level.

 

[Enasic]

https://ui.ppjol.com/mobile_welcome....com/stories/011999/LS0468.shtml#.Vl-77V9OLCR

Instead of allowing Pippen to sign as a free agent, the Bulls did a sign and trade allowing Pippen to average $13 million over 5 years. Again, this was instead of him going the free agent route where he could have gotten less. Yeah the FO were real dicks to him.

Combine this and the fact the Bulls made up some bullshit title so they can employ Pippen and give him a cake walk job now, and I'm failing to see what the hell Hawk is talking about. Not to mention, I'm fairly certain the Bulls couldn't re-negotiate deals back then per league rules.

 

[Enasic]

Come-on. $20M? Where? When? I remember when a lot was made when what they did with Marguis Teague to get them under the cap. Reinny is a cheap ****.

SURELY, Marquise Teague was worth paying a luxury tax. Is that guy still in the league? C'mon man....

 

[The Hawk]

Wait a second......are you suggesting that being over the salary cap doesn't automatically equate to winning titles?

But seriously folks, the Knicks have no problem paying the luxury tax, how well has that worked for him? Mark Cuban is more than willing to pay the luxury tax, it's resulted in exactly 1 championship.

EDIT: forgot the name James Dolan in re: Knicks

It is amazing how stupid your posts are. So somehow in your stupid mind, those who pay the luxury tax are somehow stupid? What a disjointed leap of faith. The fact that it ignores basic common sense is amazing. Reinsdorf is on the record against exceeding the salary cap. For the last 6 or so years his team had a good chance to win at least two NBA championships did he not? So WHY did he not allow Thibs to bring in a quality shooting guard or small forward or keep Korver and sign a good point guard, especially when Rose went down? Why was that?

You guys like Reinny, right? Why? Shake yourselves. Why has this guy been considered the biggest hardass of all professional team owners in the world yet you defend him as if he were a good owner. The Bulls make more money than any team in the NBA. His net worth is over $350M and rising. Yet, he will not spend enough money to put the Bulls over the top and let the White Sox compete on equal terms with other major city teams.

Reinny is a cheap asshole and hires below average talent as his management team. Always has. Always will. Hope when he croaks, things will change. Same thing with the McCaskeys.

 

[Axl Rose]

Come-on. $20M? Where? When? I remember when a lot was made when what they did with Marguis Teague to get them under the cap. Reinny is a cheap ****.

you're confusing luxury tax with salary cap

 

[The Hawk]

I'd think my nationality would be easy to guess.

Really? I do not look at anyone thru the prism of nationality. What I do know is that you do.

 

[Scoot26]

:hawked:

 

[The Hawk]

SURELY, Marquise Teague was worth paying a luxury tax. Is that guy still in the league? C'mon man....

This is what I was talking about:

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However, if Utah does pursue the trade, the Bulls would do well to listen carefully. Neither the franchise nor its youngest point guard will get a whole lot out of having him in a Chicago uniform this season.

Rose, when healthy, plays a huge share of the minutes each night, making the role of the backup point guard less substantial than it might be on another team. Given that situation, having the steady Kirk Hinrich behind Rose should be more than enough to keep the Bulls' offense running on most nights.

Hinrich has had his own battles with injury, but reduced minutes behind Rose should help a lot in that regard. Chicago also has Mike James as an emergency option, making Teague's presence even less necessary.

From Teague's standpoint, he's already spent his first NBA season playing just 8.2 minutes per game, and now even that workload will shrink. He'd be getting far more useful preparation for an NBA career if he were a junior at Kentucky this season—he turned pro after his freshman campaign—than he will stuck behind all those veterans.

For Chicago's end of the potential trade, as CBS observes, the real value would be in salary cap relief. Teague is due $3.1 million over the next two seasons from a team that's already lost several key bench players due to an inability to pay them market value.