Enasic
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Are you really complaining about the Bulls trading Teague so they wouldn't have to pay the luxury tax? That's called being smart.
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RIGHT NOW.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/CHI.html
Bulls are nearly 20M over the cap. Salary cap is 70M this year, their payroll is nearly 90M.
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i didn't like that move....it did make them look cheap....but Teague was awful anyway
"all Teague knew was if he threw the ball up real high, Anthony Davis would catch it"
- guy on realgm explaining Teagues only "skill"
"all Teague knew was if he threw the ball up real high, Anthony Davis would catch it"
- guy on realgm explaining Teagues only "skill"
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That's exactly what happened. Pippen's agent, Jim Sexton AND Jerry Reinsdorf told him not to sign the RENEGOTIATED front loaded contract prepared for him in the early 1990's. Reinsdorf told him then...I am not renegotiating this deal. Pippen signed anyway and regretted it years later.
Dude don't know what he is talking about.
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I don't think The Hawk knows what the salary cap is.
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lol exactly. If you're paying a guy who is a shitty NBA player money that puts you in the tax, you're not a very savvy team.
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You're missing my point. I brought Teague up as an example of what they did to avoid the luxury tax.
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You had 20 better examples you could have used to make your point.
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glad to get some activity going in this sub :cutecat:
Enasic
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No, I got your point. It's just terrible. You don't pay the luxury tax for guys like Marquise Teague lol
A starter or key piece on the bench when your team is a championship contender? Sure. But Teague? The fucking janitors have more value to the team.
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we had no idea how good Teague would or wouldn't be so only in hindsight can we say they made the right decision
so The Hawk does have a point, that was a cheap move...however i'd like the point out that Bulls did him a solid by picking up his 3rd year option and giving him another year salary for taking a 20% pay cut when he signed
a better example of them being cheap was giving Korver away for nothing...however i don't think them "being cheap" is what is holding us back...Bulls are on track to pay the luxury tax this year so i mean whats there to argue?
the team just sucks
so The Hawk does have a point, that was a cheap move...however i'd like the point out that Bulls did him a solid by picking up his 3rd year option and giving him another year salary for taking a 20% pay cut when he signed
a better example of them being cheap was giving Korver away for nothing...however i don't think them "being cheap" is what is holding us back...Bulls are on track to pay the luxury tax this year so i mean whats there to argue?
the team just sucks
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I mean it's not like Teague was exactly showing a lot of promise. I don't think anyone complained it was a cheap move like when Korver was moved.
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Yeah, thats why Teague was a horrible example.
I also completely understand why they moved Korver at the time.. but yeah.. for nothing was stupid. But the Bulls were thinking post-Rose injury.. which they were obviously wrong about now.
But you're right, being cheap, which they're really not, is not that problem. its making necessary moves which is the problem.
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A. Reinsdorf made sure he was taken care of in the trade with Houston.
B. Pippen makes money from Reinsdorf now by sitting courtside with his hot wife.
C. Paxson certainly wasn't, and Forman probably wasn't involved in that trade.
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Reading is a skill. I didn't say Thibs was an average coach. I said the average coach got less than 2 seasons. Thibs got 5. By the way, in his first season he had a full healthy roster. A roster that had the best regular season record in the league, but yet they could only muster 1 win against the Heat.
Thibs was not a good playoff coach.
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Nope, and that showed even in that first playoff with the various struggles they had in every single round. That would repeat in every playoff Thibs was in.
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Context is key. My post was a response to the same guy you've also been arguing against in this thread.
Read. Understand. Know.
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It's amazing how little you comprehend what you read.
My point is that going over the luxury tax does not mean you automatically give you a title. Have teams that won the NBA title been in the luxury tax? Yes. Do all of them? No. That's my point.
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This is a key point that a lot of people forget. Thibs just was completely stubborn when it came to adjustments, lineup changes, and straying away from his norm. If you play and coach the exact same way in the playoffs as you do in the regular season, other teams will catch on, and did catch on. Simply put, the playoffs are a game of adjustments and Thibs was too hard headed to do so.