Manual vs Automatic Transmission

[xer0h0ur]

I'd rather have an advanced automatic than a paddle shifter. At that point, just turn in your man card and start wearing skinny jeans.

LOL, you don't know shit about supercars and hypercars apparently because they're nearly all paddle shifted double clutch automatics and blazing fast at shifting. They're also pushing towards triple clutch automatic transmissions now.

 

[Crystallas]

LOL, you don't know shit about supercars and hypercars apparently because they're nearly all paddle shifted double clutch automatics and blazing fast at shifting. They're also pushing towards triple clutch automatic transmissions now.

Everyone I know that drives a properly categorized 'supercar' as their daily driver is regarded as a ****** by general consensus. They still wear skinny jeans and even with all those features, still can't drive their cars right or know when to shift with all them clutches.

Don't get upset when you find out nobody on the board drives an open-wheel indycar on I-94 to work.

 

[KoreanBear]

LOL, you don't know shit about supercars and hypercars apparently because they're nearly all paddle shifted double clutch automatics and blazing fast at shifting. They're also pushing towards triple clutch automatic transmissions now.

Yeah, it seems as though this is where things are heading, sadly.
I've read that they are really fast at shifting and all, but are they as engaging/fun as the old sticks?
I've never driven paddle shifted cars.

 

[xer0h0ur]

I mean, if you're talking about driving to have "fun" sure I guess a manual transmission gives that satisfying feeling but if you're talking about putting down a fast lap or a fast drag strip time then you're simply going to get your ass handed to you using a stick versus someone using these twin clutch paddle shifted automatics.

 

[modo]

Really? I've had that manumatic /shiftronic or whatever you call it and it absolutely sucked.
Just not as fun or engaging.
Never had paddles tho.

it really depends on what you are doing.......i find smooth shifting for speed and hitting an apex just right fun. Paddle shifting is great. I also enjoy a stick, but they are not as responsive as paddle shifting.

 

[1COBearsfan]

I'd rather have an advanced automatic than a paddle shifter. At that point, just turn in your man card and start wearing skinny jeans.

Yeah, it seems as though this is where things are heading, sadly.
I've read that they are really fast at shifting and all, but are they as engaging/fun as the old sticks?
I've never driven paddle shifted cars.

The difference between a fully electronically controlled automatic and a dual clutch/electronic manual transmission in a street car is imperceptible. In fact, a modern electronically controlled automatic has more features that make daily driving more comfortable and efficient. The only reason an electronically controlled manual is used in hardcore race cars is because they can be made smaller and lighter. Old school manuals are only an advantage if you want an “experience” between you, the car, & the road. None of these are better or worse than the others, just different options for different scenarios.

Need to edit this a bit. The only transmission option I have any level of contempt for is a cvt transmission. I’ve driven several and my mother had a car with one and they aren’t interesting or engaging at all.

 

[Crystallas]

The difference between a fully electronically controlled automatic and a dual clutch/electronic manual transmission in a street car is imperceptible. In fact, a modern electronically controlled automatic has more features that make daily driving more comfortable and efficient. The only reason an electronically controlled manual is used in hardcore race cars is because they can be made smaller and lighter. Old school manuals are only an advantage if you want an “experience” between you, the car, & the road. None of these are better or worse than the others, just different options for different scenarios.

Need to edit this a bit. The only transmission option I have any level of contempt for is a cvt transmission. I’ve driven several and my mother had a car with one and they aren’t interesting or engaging at all.

For sure.

My issue is when people buy a car with paddle shifters and kid themselves by thinking they are driving on a track most of the time. Raceboy posers that likely are a real danger to other drivers on the road, it's basically all the Type-R kids of the 90s all grown up(kids that slapped cherry bomb exhausts and nonsense stickers on their cars with stripes as kids, but still get wet while watching naws CGI on fast and furious). I have a similar opinion of people who buy huge SUVs for when they do big shopping(at least their justification), yet, they only utilize the storage twice a year and then complain that more people don't use solar power.

Then you have SUVs with paddle shifters and non-functioning hood scoops.... can't win I guess.

At least if you want to kid yourself and drive recklessly with a proper stick, you will learn quick when those quick first 20k miles or so come up, and you already need to change the clutch and whatever bearings from resting your hand on the shifter.

 

[shoopster]

For sure.

My issue is when people buy a car with paddle shifters and kid themselves by thinking they are driving on a track most of the time. Raceboy posers that likely are a real danger to other drivers on the road, it's basically all the Type-R kids of the 90s all grown up(kids that slapped cherry bomb exhausts and nonsense stickers on their cars with stripes as kids, but still get wet while watching naws CGI on fast and furious). I have a similar opinion of people who buy huge SUVs for when they do big shopping(at least their justification), yet, they only utilize the storage twice a year and then complain that more people don't use solar power.

Then you have SUVs with paddle shifters and non-functioning hood scoops.... can't win I guess.

At least if you want to kid yourself and drive recklessly with a proper stick, you will learn quick when those quick first 20k miles or so come up, and you already need to change the clutch and whatever bearings from resting your hand on the shifter.

Have always driven manuals (my dad was such a devotee of manual trasmisii (pl: transmission) that he special ordered a 1982 Chrisyler LeBaron sedan with a four-speed), and have never accepted or gotten used to paddle shifters. They're automatics, plain and simple.

 

[Adipost]

Have always driven manuals (my dad was such a devotee of manual trasmisii (pl: transmission) that he special ordered a 1982 Chrisyler LeBaron sedan with a four-speed), and have never accepted or gotten used to paddle shifters. They're automatics, plain and simple.

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[Crystallas]

Have always driven manuals (my dad was such a devotee of manual trasmisii (pl: transmission) that he special ordered a 1982 Chrisyler LeBaron sedan with a four-speed), and have never accepted or gotten used to paddle shifters. They're automatics, plain and simple.

I have no problem with paddle shifters. I just don't like when the term manual gets conflated and then people buy paddle shifters and act like posers, as if they now have some kind of driving skills equated to those who can use both hands and both feet at the same time in all conditions.

1982 LeBaron though, I can smell the headliner falling as we speak.

 

[KoreanBear]

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A buddy of mine had this back in the day.
The thing always broke down. One time the AC went out. When he took it to the dealer they said you have an open top why do you need an AC....

 

[R_Mac_1]

My Fusion has a turbo and paddle shifted transmission with sport mode, so you could say I'm kind of a badass.

 

[R_Mac_1]

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My buddy had a Lebaron in high school, but not a convertible. That thing was a POS. Replaced pretty quickly with a sweet Corsica with a lovely bergundy interior.

The first time I ever drove a manual was in college when I rented a big uhaul truck. Got everything done and went outside and realized it wasn't auto. Now, I was into cars a bit and knew how to shift, but learning to do so on that thing was quite a challenge. I kept missing two gears when I went from 2nd to 5th, I think it was. Kinda sucked while also hauling your whole house worth of crap.

 

[Ares]

I just drove my badass paddle shifter to an asian place to get some pot-stickers.

Then Crystallas tried to blow up my fucking car... idk why tho

 

[xer0h0ur]

So basically you hate paddle shifted cars because you don't like their practical uses. LOL, okay. Do you bark at the moon?

 

[Ares]

So basically you hate paddle shifted cars because you don't like their practical uses. LOL, okay. Do you bark at the moon?

I'm a little upset you don't care he tried to kill me.

 

[xer0h0ur]

I'm a little upset you don't care he tried to kill me.

 

[Crystallas]

So basically you hate paddle shifted cars because you don't like their practical uses. LOL, okay. Do you bark at the moon?

Who said they hate paddle shifted cars? I think people who buy them and act like raceboys on the street then are douchebags. I'm still looking for this leap in thought, because I for a fact never said it, but maybe I missed whoever did. So basically you just hate reading comprehension because it's impractical? LOL, okay.

 

[xer0h0ur]

Who said they hate paddle shifted cars? I think people who buy them and act like raceboys on the street then are douchebags. I'm still looking for this leap in thought, because I for a fact never said it, but maybe I missed whoever did. So basically you just hate reading comprehension because it's impractical? LOL, okay.

You made sweeping generalizations. Apparently I am not allowed to respond in kind. Crys logic.

 

[Crystallas]

You made sweeping generalizations. Apparently I am not allowed to respond in kind. Crys logic.

Hate is a strong word. Just wondering where you made this logical leap. I guess you answered that by saying you are making a sweeping generalization. So there ya go. But as it still stands, I don't hate paddle shifters and never said that I did.