Marshall on Cutler: "I’d have buyers remorse too.”

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Cutler didn't collapse. He's the same guy he was in the past as he is this year but with improved comp%, yards and passing TDs.

Unfortunately he's lost a ton of fumbles.

Building an offense that requires a guy like Cutler to throw the ball 40+ times a game is idiotic. Emery is an idiot for thinking Trestman was a match for Cutler. Fortify this o-line and get another running back in here. Whether Cutler is our QB or not it will only help the next poor bastard has to play QB for this city and coaching staff.
 

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In the past I think the consensus was that Jay was in the 8-15 range as far as NFL QB's ranked and that was with mediocre receivers. Now he's loaded and sucks? (I don't think he does, he just needs to eliminate turnovers, everything else is high). This is a coaching issue.

Yet these guys are siding with the NFL's worst head coach. I just don't get it. Part of me hopes they trade Cutler, keep Emery and Trestman and watch everything burn down.
 

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Cutler didn't collapse. He's the same guy he was in the past as he is this year but with improved comp%, yards and passing TDs.

Unfortunately he's lost a ton of fumbles.

Building an offense that requires a guy like Cutler to throw the ball 40+ times a game is idiotic. Emery is an idiot for thinking Trestman was a match for Cutler. Fortify this o-line and get another running back in here. Whether Cutler is our QB or not it will only help the next poor bastard has to play QB for this city and coaching staff.

They built the team needing him to be better and he has not been.

They built the Saints hoping he would be Drew Brees and he cannot fill that role.

Your right it was stupid to expect him to improve, he has shown that no matter who the coaches are or the players around him he is going to be Cutler.
 

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Yet these guys are siding with the NFL's worst head coach. I just don't get it. Part of my hopes they trade Cutler, keep Emery and Trestman and watch everything burn down.

Being critical of Jay is not siding with Emery or Trestman, they both suck.

It is not either or.
 

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Being critical of Jay is not siding with Emery or Trestman, they both suck.

It is not either or.

That point is lost on Cutler fanboys. They HAVE to find another excuse. They can't accept that he is an integral part of this teams collapse.

Most of the people who have been realistic and understand the limitations of the QB also understand that there are several other areas on the team that have issues.
 

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What is there maybe 2-3 Cutler fanboys left on here yet that phrase is mentioned in any conversation about Cutler.

Expecting this guy to suddenly become Drew Brees and then being angry or upset that he didn't is idiotic. Your expectations were idiotic.
 

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He is the fucking QB. How come we have no problem expecting our MLB's to shoulder leadership and spotlight responsibilities, but not the QB?

Where in the blue **** did I say Cutler shouldnt take responsibilities or shouldnt be a leader? PLease fucking show me
 

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That point is lost on Cutler fanboys. They HAVE to find another excuse. They can't accept that he is an integral part of this teams collapse.

Most of the people who have been realistic and understand the limitations of the QB also understand that there are several other areas on the team that have issues.

We should be all getting a long and agreeing that Cutler and Trestman suck.

But everyone hedges their bets and gets into camps, because they know that both won't be gone and they need the hope that removing one of them will fix this team.

They both need to go for the Bears to compete.
 

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Aaron Rodgers has been sacked more than Cutler in his career and has played less seasons. Rodgers also has hit the 50 sack total which is brutal for a QB twice already in his career.

But yea, keep making excuses for Jay

What does this have to do with anything I said? Why havent the mods banned you yet when it's clear you are here to just troll?
 

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Where in the blue **** did I say Cutler shouldnt take responsibilities or shouldnt be a leader? PLease fucking show me

So HOW MUCH blame does Cutler get from you Pride? Simple question.


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Being critical of Jay is not siding with Emery or Trestman, they both suck.

It is not either or.

I agree with this and I have no problem being critical of Jay. I was referring to people who want to get rid of Cutler but keep Trestman. What the hell has Trestman done to deserve a pass? A lot less then Jay.
 

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What is there maybe 2-3 Cutler fanboys left on here yet that phrase is mentioned in any conversation about Cutler.

Expecting this guy to suddenly become Drew Brees and then being angry or upset that he didn't is idiotic. Your expectations were idiotic.

If you dont say Cutler sucks you are labeled a fanboy. Point is that the facts who turn a blind eye to everything that is wrong with the team just to point out with Jay is doing wrong is fucking Special person and nothing short of that. I dont give a shit if he does play the most important position on the offense you still need other guys to do their jobs in order to win something. Is Jay a problem? YES YES YES YES YES! Are there other problems just as big as him? Yes
 

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So HOW MUCH blame does Cutler get from you Pride? Simple question.


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Based on the season collapse or just the offense?
 

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You cried about Jay getting beat up and the reason he sucks. I troll? Only to make you look the fool talking football.

First of all i was talking to Botfly who actually talks football, not just Cutler? Second, you are a fucking moron and all you do is talk about Cutler. Hence why you signed up and your profile has nothing but you talking about Cutler. Third there is zero use to me talking to you about anything Bears related and I dont give a shit about your private message you sent me either
 

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Based on the season collapse or just the offense?

Since he is on offense, let's start there. How do you explain his leading the league in turnovers and the regression of the offense?

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I don't hate Cutler. I hate the team losing. And because I have shitloads of access to all-22 film that highlights him costing us downs, yards, drives and TD's, I have - after years of supporting him, had no choice but to give.

Just like the experts, ex-QB's, ex-players who know the game, and now Bears seem to now have done.

You should be taking snap shots and posting them...some dude posted one of Holmes wide open and him throwing into double coverage
 

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Since he is on offense, let's start there. How do you explain his leading the league in turnovers and the regression of the offense?

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Cutler leading the league in turnovers is based on a multitude of things. His fumbles are a cause of bad pocket awareness,bad ol play and not holding on to the ball,his int's are not being on the same page with his WR's, not reading a defense and bad accuracy. As far as the regression of the offense goes people need to stop using McCown as a measure point as it was more flukish than anything. You want to see the real McCown? Turn on a tampa game. Cutler should never throw the ball 40 times a game,period. He is a playaction, big plays QB who needs to rely on others to win for him
 

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There is no pecking order to the suckage.

When one unit sucks, it affects the whole team.

The ST's have sucked brutally - maybe the worst Ive ver seen. They have hurt the team. And likely cost us chances to win games.

Defense and specifically Tuckers defense is something I have repeatedly broken down with film as a failure. And has cost us games.

Coaching has been extremely questionable. We run the WCo which is an extremely conservative O. But not being balanced.Calling dump-offs on 2nd and 3 and long situations has been a huge detriment - and cost us games.

And Cutler has also been bad. Very bad. Bad in a way I actually didn't expect. Film doesn't lie. He has been horrible. And he has cost us games.

One thing I can't point to as an issue is talent. We have an extremely talented team. 12 pro-bowlers starting on this team - most of any team in the NFL.

We have fixable issues. One thing we can't "fix" is the QB. That has to be replaced.
 

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Cutler leading the league in turnovers is based on a multitude of things. His fumbles are a cause of bad pocket awareness,bad ol play and not holding on to the ball,his int's are not being on the same page with his WR's, not reading a defense and bad accuracy. As far as the regression of the offense goes people need to stop using McCown as a measure point as it was more flukish than anything. You want to see the real McCown? Turn on a tampa game. Cutler should never throw the ball 40 times a game,period. He is a playaction, big plays QB who needs to rely on others to win for him

Your entire post is just one big cutler excuse.

Same shit different season.

Time to wise up.
 

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Your entire post is just one big cutler excuse.

Same shit different season.

Time to wise up.

Clearly. Bad pocket awareness,not holding on to the ball, not reading a defense, bad accuracy all excuse for Cutler
 

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