McCarthy and heir apparent?

[TL1961]

I don't get the Brown hate at all. The guy went from passing game coordinator to OC to HC in a matter of weeks.

And he couldn't even run his own system.

While saddled with Waldron's system he had CW improving.

The dumb bears set the whole thing back taking him away from developing CW to coaching the whole team.

So for me the book isn't closed on him.

However, I find it much preferred if any coach hired to be allowed to pick his staff and run his own system.

Thomas Brown was coaching with the Bears last year, became their interim head coach and was a candidate for the full-time position. If he does not get it, and he shouldn’t, the last thing you want in that locker room is for him to be serving under the candidate who did get the job. He’s either your new head coach, which is a bad idea or he needs to be gone.

 

[TL1961]

If they hire anyone they should let them bring their own guy. I get it when you have a holdover like Nick Fangio. Seriously, Thomas Brown is not the Nick Fangio of offensive assistants.

He could be the next Bob Belichik.

 

[TL1961]

Rodgers doesnt have a great disdain for McCarthy. I quoted what Rodgers said.

“It’s probably normal in any relationship you have,” Rodgers told the media in 2022. “When you’re able to take time away and you have that separation, it’s natural to look back and have a greater sense of appreciation and gratitude and thankfulness for that time.”

McCarthy added at the time: "When I think of him, I think of the one-on-one conversations we used to have, especially in the younger days. And it always ended with a hug and, ‘I love ya.’ So that’s what I think about our relationship. I think he made me a much better coach."

Where does it say he has a great disdain for McCarthy? Those seem to be your words. Can you provide a direct quote from Rodgers like I did above?

Yes, he absolutely had disdain for McCarthy and softening five years later after the divorce doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Rogers has a disdain for everybody though, so there’s that.

 

[remydat]

Yes, he absolutely had disdain for McCarthy and softening five years later after the divorce doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Rogers has a disdain for everybody though, so there’s that.

Ok let's make this simple. No one has provided quotes from Rodgers. All we have is what anonymous sources have said or what CCS posters remember.

My point is I dont care nor should Caleb. If I am Caleb the only thing I would care about is can McCarthy develop me and the point is whatever disdain Rodgers may have had for McCarthy he still recognized McCarthy helped develop him.

 

[jsu34]

Thomas Brown was coaching with the Bears last year, became their interim head coach and was a candidate for the full-time position. If he does not get it, and he shouldn’t, the last thing you want in that locker room is for him to be serving under the candidate who did get the job. He’s either your new head coach, which is a bad idea or he needs to be gone.

I thought he was added before this past season.

My point being he was given the worst circumstances and for his time at OC it seems the qb started playing better. And that was with Waldron's garbage playbook and scheme. Who knows what he can do with an offseason and his own playbook and scheme.

And you seem to also miss my last sentence where I say I'd prefer whomever gets hired pick his own staff and run his own system.

 

[--CyBear--]

So if the report is fabricated, then how could it also be water under the bridge? McCarthy's reputation took a hit to the degree that he was unemployed. Apparently the NFL 'people' thought enough of the reports to hesitate in hiring McCarthy. The supposed personal drama per anonymous sources was actually big news. The whole "helped Rodgers become the QB he became" is a pretty weak 'argument'.

And if you are a kid, how old are you? 5?

I'm not a big McCarthey fan either and voted bum, but he's the safe pick that will turn things quickly but then get outschemed in the playoffs. Meh.

That said, Rodgers is a huge dick and that will create a power struggle with any coach he plays for. I wouldn't be pointing my finger at McCarthy in that situation.

 

[--CyBear--]

I thought he was added before this past season.

My point being he was given the worst circumstances and for his time at OC it seems the qb started playing better. And that was with Waldron's garbage playbook and scheme. Who knows what he can do with an offseason and his own playbook and scheme.

And you seem to also miss my last sentence where I say I'd prefer whomever gets hired pick his own staff and run his own system.

I don't mind if they retain him but he's sure no HC candidate with the way he handled the clock and sequenced at the end of games.

 

[knoxville7]

Lol nothing got blasted as you are not CW and you dont speak for him.

I said it may be a plus which by definition means it may not be. You guys are the only ones stupid enough to claim you know for sure.

I dont think CW cares about any alleged beef as even if one existed Rodgers says it is done. You are free to believe otherwise.

McCarthy was there and helped developed Rodgers so that is what I think CW would care about. Not behind the scenes gossip that again Rodgers said is water under the bridge.

Lmao so you don’t think CW cares about what went on between CW and MM, but you totally think it’s possible that CW would care about any potential good things that went on

Riiiiiiiight

 

[TheEarlofRobin]

Cool story. You are entitled to your beliefs. I disagree. I think CW would appreciate working with the guy that helped make his idol a HoF QB while they won a Super Bowl together.

So now McCarthy not being able to find a job after being fired by the Packers is a 'belief'? And you 'disagree' with facts? Sounds about right for you.

Did you also think that Kobe Bryant was going to manufacture a trade to the Bulls because he wanted to work for Jerry Krause....the guy who helped make his idol a HOF basketball player?

You should really look into the backstory of Rodgers and McCarthy. Goes back all the way to draft day. It's kind of funny in a Harbaugh-Warren way.

 

[remydat]

Lmao so you don’t think CW cares about what went on between CW and MM, but you totally think it’s possible that CW would care about any potential good things that went on

Riiiiiiiight

I dont think Caleb cares about gossip and cares about being developed as a QB. Correct.

So now McCarthy not being able to find a job after being fired by the Packers is a 'belief'? And you 'disagree' with facts? Sounds about right for you.

Did you also think that Kobe Bryant was going to manufacture a trade to the Bulls because he wanted to work for Jerry Krause....the guy who helped make his idol a HOF basketball player?

You should really look into the backstory of Rodgers and McCarthy. Goes back all the way to draft day. It's kind of funny in a Harbaugh-Warren way.

No you assuming he had to wait because of the Rodgers issue is a belief. You have no actual proof that was the reason and it is fairly normal for coaches to sit out at least one year when fired.

Everything else you said is irrelevant.

 

[knoxville7]

I dont think Caleb cares about gossip and cares about being developed as a QB. Correct.


No you assuming he had to wait because of the Rodgers issue is a belief. You have no actual proof that was the reason and it is fairly normal for coaches to sit out at least one year when fired.

Everything else you said is irrelevant.

yes, and you claimed it might be possible CW would look at MM as a positive due to aaron rodgers. yet, you refuse to acknowledge Rodgers had beef with MM despite everyone in the world knowing it to be so except you

MAKES YOU THINK....

 

[TheEarlofRobin]

You have no actual proof that was the reason and it is fairly normal for coaches to sit out at least one year when fired.

I thought it was fairly abnormal for one of the only HCs with a SB ring to be unable to get a job after interviewing for positions. The Jets job even went to...Adam Gase.

As for the other 'irrelevant' stuff that was actually the point of contention....if you feel that the Rodgers-McCarthy beef was merely 'gossip', why would you also term it as 'water under the bridge'? I know you sometimes have difficulty with English, so perhaps you don't understand that expression?

 

[Butkus34]

Aaron Rodgers apparently had toxic 13-year relationship with former Packers coach Mike McCarthy

It seems there was definitely some drama between Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy

www.cbssports.com

The story also states that Rodgers got tired of seeing his receivers run the same routes all the time, which only happened because McCarthy refused to change his offense. To fix things, Rodgers apparently decided to start changing the plays that McCarthy was calling on the field, which happened nearly one-third of the time.

Basically, things got so bad that receivers weren't sure if they should run the routes that McCarthy had called or if they should run the routes that Rodgers had called. That led to an ugly situation in November involving Equanimeous St. Brown.

 

[knoxville7]

Aaron Rodgers apparently had toxic 13-year relationship with former Packers coach Mike McCarthy

It seems there was definitely some drama between Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy

www.cbssports.com

The story also states that Rodgers got tired of seeing his receivers run the same routes all the time, which only happened because McCarthy refused to change his offense. To fix things, Rodgers apparently decided to start changing the plays that McCarthy was calling on the field, which happened nearly one-third of the time.

Basically, things got so bad that receivers weren't sure if they should run the routes that McCarthy had called or if they should run the routes that Rodgers had called. That led to an ugly situation in November involving Equanimeous St. Brown.

"THATS JUST GOSSIP AND HEARSAY!!!" - remydat eberflus brown

 

[remydat]

yes, and you claimed it might be possible CW would look at MM as a positive due to aaron rodgers. yet, you refuse to acknowledge Rodgers had beef with MM despite everyone in the world knowing it to be so except you

MAKES YOU THINK....

Due to his role developing Rodgers. Yes. I think he would care more that Rodgers became a HoF QB under McCarthy despite any alleged beef which apparently no longer exists anyways. Not sure why this is a hard concept to grasp.

I thought it was fairly abnormal for one of the only HCs with a SB ring to be unable to get a job after interviewing for positions. The Jets job even went to...Adam Gase.

As for the other 'irrelevant' stuff that was actually the point of contention....if you feel that the Rodgers-McCarthy beef was merely 'gossip', why would you also term it as 'water under the bridge'? I know you sometimes have difficulty with English, so perhaps you don't understand that expression?

I dont think it is abnormal at all. Sorry.

It is gossip because because it didnt come from Rodgers or McCarthy but 3rd parties. Rodgers clearly alluded to their being some sort of tension in their relationship without getting into details but also made it clear such tension is water under the bridge now. So I accept there was some tension. I have no clue whether the specific things those anonymous sources claimed are true or embellished and it really doesnt matter at this point. What matters again is McCarthy helped Rodgers become a HoF QB.

 

[remydat]

Aaron Rodgers apparently had toxic 13-year relationship with former Packers coach Mike McCarthy

It seems there was definitely some drama between Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy

www.cbssports.com

The story also states that Rodgers got tired of seeing his receivers run the same routes all the time, which only happened because McCarthy refused to change his offense. To fix things, Rodgers apparently decided to start changing the plays that McCarthy was calling on the field, which happened nearly one-third of the time.

Basically, things got so bad that receivers weren't sure if they should run the routes that McCarthy had called or if they should run the routes that Rodgers had called. That led to an ugly situation in November involving Equanimeous St. Brown.

Already shared in post 74 and already responded to in post 76.

None of what is in your report is from Rodgers and again it is water under the bridge. It doesnt matter how bad anonymous sources claim it was. The reality is McCarthy was instrumental in Rodgers development and Rodgers himself acknowledged that fact. This isnt breaking news. Rodgers spoke about it publicly on record.

So if I am a kid that watched Rodgers excel for 10-11 years under McCarthy then that is what I care about. Not their supposed personal drama per anonymous sources. McCarthy helped Rodgers become the QB he became. The end.

The above response still stands. I will also add that Rodgers ended up having issues with LaFleur and Saleh allegedly so this is nothing new for him. So again the main point is regardless of any issues McCarthy helped develop a HoF QB.

 

[msadows]

Already shared in post 74 and already responded to in post 76.


The above response still stands. I will also add that Rodgers ended up having issues with LaFleur and Saleh allegedly so this is nothing new for him. So again the main point is regardless of any issues McCarthy helped develop a HoF QB.

Im also sure caleb can reach out to rodgers and see what he really thinks about mccarthy...

 

[knoxville7]

Im also sure caleb can reach out to rodgers and see what he really thinks about mccarthy...

nah bro, hes good...remy says so!!

 

[TexasBearfan]

Yes, he absolutely had disdain for McCarthy and softening five years later after the divorce doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Rogers has a disdain for everybody though, so there’s that.

isn't Rodgers ultimately like Mikey on the Life Cereal commercial? He hates everything

 

[msadows]

isn't Rodgers ultimately like Mikey on the Life Cereal commercial? He hates everything

Besides himself, rodgers loves himself some rodgers