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I love how the boards worst and dumbest posters stick together.
BTW why did you lie about what Bill Polian said about Mitch?
BTW why did you lie about what Bill Polian said about Mitch?
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I don't have a trigger my SJW friend. Black or white I'm sure the Bears will screw it up again. It's kinda what they do. If they wanna be racist and let color play a role they have that right because they own the team.
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I like lieing, it's what gets me out of bed in the mornings. I get up and tell a whopper and then I know I'm going to have a great day. Or you can make up the rest of what you need to hear. I don't care either way.
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Assigning different value to people = racist.
Not hiring someone because they’re a minority = racist.
But how do I know which owners are hiring because they’re racist and who’s just an idiot? I’ve seen people call the Bears racist for firing Lovie after 10 wins. I don’t think that makes them racist…. Idiots maybe…. But not racist.
Is there an owner out there that’s never hired a minority coach? If yes, then yeah, probably a racist.
And just to be accurate it’s not 1 out of 32. It’s 1 out of 23 or 24. Whatever the number is now. (Not that that makes it any better)
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Which one is you and which one is your boyfriend? PS. Why do you always use old, fat, out of shape shirtless men in your AV? Never mind I figured it out.
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You lied about what Bill Polian said. I tried to google where Bill Polian said it and couldn't find anything. I even gave you a link to where he said thinks that conflict with what you claim.
You're a liar and a moron.
I know you are but what am I? very cool and creative! Im sure you and all of your intelligent friends are cracking up over that one!
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I wish Jerry was racist. Then maybe the Bears could hire Will McClay.
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Ok i'll go ask them. Stand by.
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Kinda how the boards trolls stick together...Hmmmmmmmmmm
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So i asked and they said they mock me in fun and don't want you to have another meltdown if they aren't following your CCS #1 clown lead.
They also said they aren't laughing at me but with me.
I win.
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your stalker(s) actually admitted to holding a grudge for EIGHT YEARS. Think about that. lol
This board is full of Karen's !
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I don't think race should be a big factor in hiring, but I'm not going to be mad if it's used. Reason I say this is because they use other factors sometimes to hire some candidates and minorities are at a disadvantage for that. There also seems to be a different standard for some coordinators compared to other coordinators. Race may not be the reason, but it's kinda weird. As someone mentioned above, Brady is used as a deterrent to hiring Leftwich but it was not used as a deterrent for Josh McDaniels. Manning wasn't used as a deterrent for Gase. Everyone still gave them a chance. Great we can say we learned that lesson and won't do that anymore. Nagy and Moore are inexperienced OCs and people wanted to hire them( I was one of them too) even though Leftwich has more experience. You can say not enough experience hurt Nagy. Great, we can learn from past experience. Totally cool.
However, there are some candidates with terrible histories but for some reason, we're not learning from past experience with them. Some people on this board give them the benefit of the doubt that maybe they learned something from their mistakes. Josh McDaniels who was hired because of Brady the first time, failed in Denver, in St. Louis, and that debacle he did with the Colts is still fresh...yet there are some people who are willing to overlook that. Now, we are not learning from past experience when it comes to this guy. Daboll failed everywhere except when he got a QB. However, we are not using his past experience against him. We just say he probably learned his lesson. Don't get me wrong, I'd be happy with Daboll too.
Frazier and Caldwell also have a bad past experience and yet nobody wants to say that maybe they learned their lesson. Nobody is giving them the benefit of the doubt like they are Josh McDaniels and Daboll. The only minority with a bad past experience that people are ok with, are Flores and possibly Bowles.
To summarize, this is the general consensus of the board:
Not enough experience, we don't want him:
Eric Bienemy
Byron Leftwich
Not enough experience, we want him:
Nagy
Kellen Moore
He had Brady, we don't want him:
Leftwich
He had Brady, we want him:
Josh McDaniels
Has a terrible past coaching history, we don't want him:
Frazier
Caldwell
Has a terrible past coaching history, we want him:
Josh McDaniels
Daboll
Flores
Bowles is a maybe. I want him, but there are people who don't
So as you can see, there are certain people who get the benefit of the doubt and certain people who don't. Not saying race has anything to do with it, just saying that for the most part some coordinators get leeway and some don't. The ones who don't just happen to be "different". Anyway, sorry for the rant. At the end of the day, I agree with you that race should not play a role in hiring HC but if McDaniels for whatever reason keeps getting a pass, I don't mind if they use race.
However, there are some candidates with terrible histories but for some reason, we're not learning from past experience with them. Some people on this board give them the benefit of the doubt that maybe they learned something from their mistakes. Josh McDaniels who was hired because of Brady the first time, failed in Denver, in St. Louis, and that debacle he did with the Colts is still fresh...yet there are some people who are willing to overlook that. Now, we are not learning from past experience when it comes to this guy. Daboll failed everywhere except when he got a QB. However, we are not using his past experience against him. We just say he probably learned his lesson. Don't get me wrong, I'd be happy with Daboll too.
Frazier and Caldwell also have a bad past experience and yet nobody wants to say that maybe they learned their lesson. Nobody is giving them the benefit of the doubt like they are Josh McDaniels and Daboll. The only minority with a bad past experience that people are ok with, are Flores and possibly Bowles.
To summarize, this is the general consensus of the board:
Not enough experience, we don't want him:
Eric Bienemy
Byron Leftwich
Not enough experience, we want him:
Nagy
Kellen Moore
He had Brady, we don't want him:
Leftwich
He had Brady, we want him:
Josh McDaniels
Has a terrible past coaching history, we don't want him:
Frazier
Caldwell
Has a terrible past coaching history, we want him:
Josh McDaniels
Daboll
Flores
Bowles is a maybe. I want him, but there are people who don't
So as you can see, there are certain people who get the benefit of the doubt and certain people who don't. Not saying race has anything to do with it, just saying that for the most part some coordinators get leeway and some don't. The ones who don't just happen to be "different". Anyway, sorry for the rant. At the end of the day, I agree with you that race should not play a role in hiring HC but if McDaniels for whatever reason keeps getting a pass, I don't mind if they use race.
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I think when you apply that lens to things it always looks darker than it actually is in nuance.
Yes there are some fears of some double standards, but all those stories and situations are deeper than that.
Kellen Moore and Leftwich seem similar on the surface. I who claim not to have a racial bias because I studied brains from the inside out and understand our similarities intricately before we get to skin organ pigmentation and cultural differences, do view them the same and want neither from a “safe” hire perspective, but would absolutely make sure I interview both to potentially identify a young genius if it’s there.
and with those two guys you might interview them to gather a file for 5 or 10 years down the road to revisit if they flash potential but it’s not the right fit currently.
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