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[Variable]

To me it's like what does that even really mean anymore? Thank you for willingly giving up your freedoms and living a regimented life style where you aren't treated as much as human beings as you are as tools? Thank you for feeling like you had to do that so the business of war could exist and, in a lot of cases, alter the rest of your life (and lives of loved ones) for the worse?



I feel sorry, not thankful, for the majority of these people and the choices they've made or were more or less forced upon them. I've seen that same documentary "War Torn" and I've watched a whole bunch of others, like "Restrepo", and that's how I feel at the end of almost all of them. Sorry for them and incredibly lucky and relieved for myself that growing up I wasn't surrounded by the kind of culture and/or people that felt I needed to go off in battle to fulfill some kind of mission or duty. Or to continue some kind of family legacy of "service". It's tough watching those families in those documentaries trying to talk about their son or their friend or relative that was in war and was killed or killed themselves.



Especially the families with a lot of experience in the military. Because you can see it in their eyes, the painful doubt. So much of what they are is wrapped up in those age old ideals, passed from generation to generation. And it's like, how do you change from that? That's your whole life. That's what you put stock in, what you trusted.



The one I most recently remember is from The Tillman Story. There's this part where the Tillman family, through all their hard work, finally gets these high ranking generals and officers and in court to try and figure out who was responsible for the cover up on his death and during the hearing near at the end, all them effectively say "I would like to make it clear I am not testifying I knew it was friendly fire". One by one they all say that, and the Chairman was like "Yes no question, you were all very busy......and we're adjourned." And the family is sitting there dumbfounded while they get up and laugh, shake hands and hob knob with each other. And you can see it in the way they look.



It's a joke. Your life for a fucking joke. I felt sorry for them and for all those families, in that being the way in which they realized it.

 

[IceHogsFan]

To me it's like what does that even really mean anymore? Thank you for willingly giving up your freedoms and living a regimented life style where you aren't treated as much as human beings as you are as tools? Thank you for feeling like you had to do that so the business of war could exist and, in a lot of cases, alter the rest of your life (and lives of loved ones) for the worse?



I feel sorry, not thankful, for the majority of these people and the choices they've made or were more or less forced upon them. I've seen that same documentary "War Torn" and I've watched a whole bunch of others, like "Restrepo", and that's how I feel at the end of almost all of them. Sorry for them and incredibly lucky and relieved for myself that growing up I wasn't surrounded by the kind of culture and/or people that felt I needed to go off in battle to fulfill some kind of mission or duty. Or to continue some kind of family legacy of "service". It's tough watching those families in those documentaries trying to talk about their son or their friend or relative that was in war and was killed or killed themselves.



Especially the families with a lot of experience in the military. Because you can see it in their eyes, the painful doubt. So much of what they are is wrapped up in those age old ideals, passed from generation to generation. And it's like, how do you change from that? That's your whole life. That's what you put stock in, what you trusted.



The one I most recently remember is from The Tillman Story. There's this part where the Tillman family, through all their hard work, finally gets these high ranking generals and officers and in court to try and figure out who was responsible for the cover up on his death and during the hearing near at the end, all them effectively say "I would like to make it clear I am not testifying I knew it was friendly fire". One by one they all say that, and the Chairman was like "Yes no question, you were all very busy......and we're adjourned." And the family is sitting there dumbfounded while they get up and laugh, shake hands and hob knob with each other. And you can see it in the way they look.



It's a joke. Your life for a fucking joke. I felt sorry for them and for all those families, in that being the way in which they realized it.

Can somebody delete this fucking piece of shit commentary?

 

[bri]

To me it's like what does that even really mean anymore? Thank you for willingly giving up your freedoms and living a regimented life style where you aren't treated as much as human beings as you are as tools? Thank you for feeling like you had to do that so the business of war could exist and, in a lot of cases, alter the rest of your life (and lives of loved ones) for the worse?



I feel sorry, not thankful, for the majority of these people and the choices they've made or were more or less forced upon them. I've seen that same documentary "War Torn" and I've watched a whole bunch of others, like "Restrepo", and that's how I feel at the end of almost all of them. Sorry for them and incredibly lucky and relieved for myself that growing up I wasn't surrounded by the kind of culture and/or people that felt I needed to go off in battle to fulfill some kind of mission or duty. Or to continue some kind of family legacy of "service". It's tough watching those families in those documentaries trying to talk about their son or their friend or relative that was in war and was killed or killed themselves.



Especially the families with a lot of experience in the military. Because you can see it in their eyes, the painful doubt. So much of what they are is wrapped up in those age old ideals, passed from generation to generation. And it's like, how do you change from that? That's your whole life. That's what you put stock in, what you trusted.



The one I most recently remember is from The Tillman Story. There's this part where the Tillman family, through all their hard work, finally gets these high ranking generals and officers and in court to try and figure out who was responsible for the cover up on his death and during the hearing near at the end, all them effectively say "I would like to make it clear I am not testifying I knew it was friendly fire". One by one they all say that, and the Chairman was like "Yes no question, you were all very busy......and we're adjourned." And the family is sitting there dumbfounded while they get up and laugh, shake hands and hob knob with each other. And you can see it in the way they look.



It's a joke. Your life for a fucking joke. I felt sorry for them and for all those families, in that being the way in which they realized it.

So are you saying you have never had anyone in your family who has ever served in the military or who would ever even consider it? That seems a little selfish. I guess we are lucky there are other people who don't share your view. The military is definitely not for everyone and is far from perfect, but I feel your comments are a little disrespectful and extremely insensitive, especially with Memorial Day a few days off. You almost make it sound like serving your country is a dishonorable thing. That is just my opinion. I can't speak for anyone else.

 

[sth]

So are you saying you have never had anyone in your family who has ever served in the military or who would ever even consider it? That seems a little selfish. I guess we are lucky there are other people who don't share your view. The military is definitely not for everyone and is far from perfect, but I feel your comments are a little disrespectful and extremely insensitive, especially with Memorial Day a few days off. You almost make it sound like serving your country is a dishonorable thing. That is just my opinion. I can't speak for anyone else.

Both of my grandpas were in the army, and my Uncle was in the Air Force reserve. My cousin just got into West Point. I'm sorry but it is one thing to question the wars our leaders get in sometimes, but these guys are heroes.

 

[MassHavoc]

I'm going to cut this off here. If you guys want to debate this, take it to another thread.

 

[IceHogsFan]

I'm going to cut this off here. If you guys want to debate this, take it to another thread.

That commentary and everything after it should be deleted. It had no right in this thread in the first place.

 

[MassHavoc]

That commentary and everything after it should be deleted. It had no right in this thread in the first place.

We aren't allowed to be board nazi's and delete posts that don't break any rules. Wouldn't want people being upset and leaving.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

So howwas the new Pirates of the Caribbean movie?

 

[R K]

We aren't allowed to be board nazi's and delete posts that don't break any rules. Wouldn't want people being upset and leaving.

I had to plus you for that.





IMO that was completely posted for reaction.

 

[MassHavoc]

So howwas the new Pirates of the Caribbean movie?

Don't plan to. Those movies just don't do it for me for some reason, I liked the first one, but they have just seemed to drag on with no real story other than to make money and push the franchise. It's a shame that they will be what Depp is remembered for when he has had so many other superior roles. That's not to say that Captain Jack Sparrow isn't an amazing charecter, or he does a poor job, just that the plots themselves can not hold water.

 

[IceHogsFan]

I had to plus you for that.





IMO that was completely posted for reaction.

First off that POS commentary has nothing to do with this thread so yes,IMO, you could delete it.



Secondly, obviously it was posted for reactions and I will fucking respond to that crap.

Warn me if you will but the mere fact that some asshole would post something like that publicly then he deserves to be called out on it. An insult to our troops, their families and their losses is an area that I will never back down to. Their sacrifices so that he can write that shit is something that I will gladly defend.

 

[R K]

Don't plan to. Those movies just don't do it for me for some reason, I liked the first one, but they have just seemed to drag on with no real story other than to make money and push the franchise. It's a shame that they will be what Depp is remembered for when he has had so many other superior roles. That's not to say that Captain Jack Sparrow isn't an amazing charecter, or he does a poor job, just that the plots themselves can not hold water.

I'll wait for the DVD. I will how ever go check out the 2nd half of HP.

 

[R K]

First off that POS commentary has nothing to do with this thread so yes,IMO, you could delete it.



Secondly, obviously it was posted for reactions and I will fucking respond to that crap.

Warn me if you will but the mere fact that some asshole would post something like that publicly then he deserves to be called out on it. An insult to our troops, their families and their losses is an area that I will never back down to. Their sacrifices so that he can write that shit is something that I will gladly defend.

The guy is a douche bag. Just ignore him.

 

[MassHavoc]

First off that POS commentary has nothing to do with this thread so yes,IMO, you could delete it.



Secondly, obviously it was posted for reactions and I will fucking respond to that crap.

Warn me if you will but the mere fact that some asshole would post something like that publicly then he deserves to be called out on it. An insult to our troops, their families and their losses is an area that I will never back down to. Their sacrifices so that he can write that shit is something that I will gladly defend.

I agree, but take it to another thread if it's to be discussed, and I'll move the posts there. Otherwise. Back to topic. As for your first point, if that were the case half the posts on this board would be deleted.

 

[IceHogsFan]

The guy is a douche bag. Just ignore him.

In just about any other forum or in any other discussion I would. Honor, integrity, serving the greater good and thinking of others beyond yourself is something that people like him will never live nor comprehend.

 

[IceHogsFan]

I agree, but take it to another thread if it's to be discussed, and I'll move the posts there. Otherwise. Back to topic. As for your first point, if that were the case half the posts on this board would be deleted.

Point taken.



I have made my position to him perfectly clear in private as well.

 

[MassHavoc]

In just about any other forum or in any other discussion I would. Honor, integrity, serving the greater good and thinking of others beyond yourself is something that people like him will never live nor comprehend.

Unfortunately, the fact that you are even responding means that his trolling has won no matter what you say. Call BS, and move along, nothing good comes from responding to people who post for reactionary reasons.



Anyone plan on seeing Hangover II? I thought it was going to be awesome, but the more hype I see the more I feel it will be a let down. I love the that the Tattoo artist is trying to sue over the face tattoo... Who know that if you go to a tattoo artist and they put art on your body, they own the art on your body.

 

[R K]

Unfortunately, the fact that you are even responding means that his trolling has won no matter what you say. Call BS, and move along, nothing good comes from responding to people who post for reactionary reasons.



Anyone plan on seeing Hangover II? I thought it was going to be awesome, but the more hype I see the more I feel it will be a let down. I love the that the Tattoo artist is trying to sue over the face tattoo... Who know that if you go to a tattoo artist and they put art on your body, they own the art on your body.

I'm already sick of seeing the previews. Another wait till DVD or HBO movie.

 

[MassHavoc]

I'm already sick of seeing the previews. Another wait till DVD or HBO movie.

I'm afraid so, I was pumped when that first official preview came out. But not it's like, Meh. I don't think it cna live up to the hype. I'm sure it's a great movie, but no longer a must see.

 

[Variable]

I had to plus you for that.





IMO that was completely posted for reaction.

Damn, must have wandered into the wrong thread then. I thought this was the Movie thread, where you discuss films you ve seen and your views and opinions on them and how they made you feel. Feel free to disagree with anything but don't be surprised when discussing documentaries about the military that you get people's views and feelings about.............take a guess......... the military, which is the entire point of those films to begin with. To promote discussion. Like say in a message board with a movie thread. Who woulda thunk it right?