Movie Thread (All forms)

[MassHavoc]

I like to define all movies/films by either or whether documentary, action, slasher, etc. I think the narrower definitions come in the form of genre and sub-genre, but in general they're all under the same classification and about that art is the medium, etc. With documentary as a genre of film then you could debate whether or not a movie with recreations is a documentary. I think yes, since it fits into the classification of creative non-fiction, which in itself is a problematic term, but it just means something that incorporates the fundamentals of storytelling, theme, tone, character, narrative, etc.



Movies are films, films are movies. Those terms, aside from the actual tactile film used to shoot them, are often used in a pretentious sense by people who want to be known as someone who only likes films, not movies, or wants to demean movies as something lesser. There are other words for those things, like blockbuster, art house, independent, corporate, etc. I think we should just be more descriptive. In general I prefer to define movies as either bad or good and then give reasons why instead of reducing them with some kind of highfalutin "I'm better than you" scale.

interesting, I like it... and thanks for commenting since it was your comment that had me thinking. I couldn't remember how often you visit the thread.

 

[phranchk]

I saw The Campaign yesterday and it was better then I expected. Pretty damn funny for most of the movie.

 

[MassHavoc]

We saw Amazing Spiderman today, it was pretty good I liked it, about the only thing I didn't like was the hokey jokes from him during the fight scenes. I just wish they'd stop trying to force one liners all during fight scenes in all movies. Just let them beat the shit out of each other and leave the dialog for the necessary parts of the movie.

 

[Variable]

To be fair though, Spiderman does that all the time.

 

[MassHavoc]

Saw Knight and Day last night for some reason. It was so bad I couldn't turn it off.

 

[Ymono37]

To be fair though, Spiderman does that all the time.

Was just about to post this... Mass, Spidey is known to quip - some comic "analysts" have even listed it as a "super-power" because it has been known to dis-arm a few of his enemies.

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

I never really thought of them lie that honestly, i've always just kind of though at Bios as Docs for better or worse.



BHP... have you ever seen a documentary about documentaries? Or is that a paradox that would collapse the industry? haha

Don't you ever speak of such things.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JGp7Meg42U&feature=related

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

Watched God Bless America last night.

I thought it was mildly entertaining, and it was a nice soapbox for Bobcat to complain about popular culture.

It did drag in parts, and I felt it was beating you with the same message for 100 minutes.



6/10



I also watched the original Empire Strikes Back on laserdisc as well.



Original Empire: 10/10

George's fucked up re-hash with added shit: 8/10

 

[bookjones]

I never really thought of them lie that honestly, i've always just kind of though at Bios as Docs for better or worse.



BHP... have you ever seen a documentary about documentaries? Or is that a paradox that would collapse the industry? haha

The industry survives and soldiers on despite the existence of the fantastic Capturing Reality: The Art of Documentary from several years ago.

 

[TSD]

We saw Amazing Spiderman today, it was pretty good I liked it, about the only thing I didn't like was the hokey jokes from him during the fight scenes. I just wish they'd stop trying to force one liners all during fight scenes in all movies. Just let them beat the shit out of each other and leave the dialog for the necessary parts of the movie.

The hokey jokes are kinda why i liked this one over the others. Thats Spiderman, hes not this serious business mute that MacGuire channeled.

 

[MassHavoc]

But to me this one seemed to take the more dark route of the new batman trilogy. The story we know but darker and the quips just seemed out of place. I get that they should be in there, but there were at awkard points and were more distracting to the viewer than to the bag guy.

 

[phranchk]

Broken Flowers - 6/10. Not bad. Kind of slow w/ a decent story. I was a little confused by the end so I did have to research a bit. Probably one of Bill Murray's lesser known movies.

 

[MassHavoc]

I hated that movie . Which is saying a lot because I love murray

 

[TSD]

I watched a documentary called after porn ends.



Man 90% of those people are some broke ass individuals. I mean wow. It's worth a watch if you want to learn how people fall into porn...and out of porn. Most of them regret it. and most of them didnt leave it with money.



One girl who became a bible banger afterwards I want to stab in the eye with an ice pick. I will elaborate on that because her situation following porn was financially dire and some good christians financially took care of her and shes their mouth piece. She claims the lord did this for her, how many good christian families have gone homeless or were hurting financially and got little or no help. They are using you, dumb *****, they are using you just as much as the porn industry and you are too stupid to see it. But I digress on her.



But yeah, The guys didnt seem to regret it so much, but they said they wouldnt do it in the modern porn industry, (these guys were like from the 70's and 80's) they said back then they only maybe had sex 12 times or so in a month, and that nowadays, guys are fucking like 3-4 times a day, every day, and he said (what I always assumed) that it takes the mystery and enjoyment out of it if you do it that much. Yeah but most of the girls have a sad backstory that brought them to that end. It was a pretty interesting doc.

 

[Ymono37]

One girl who became a bible banger afterwards I want to stab in the eye with an ice pick. I will elaborate on that because her situation following porn was financially dire and some good christians financially took care of her and shes their mouth piece. She claims the lord did this for her, how many good christian families have gone homeless or were hurting financially and got little or no help. They are using you, dumb *****, they are using you just as much as the porn industry and you are too stupid to see it. But I digress on her.

Sounds like she traded one thing for another... just like an addiction.



Doc does sound pretty interesting... I'll have to check it out.

 

[TSD]

Sounds like she traded one thing for another... just like an addiction.



Doc does sound pretty interesting... I'll have to check it out.

Well the only thing that really grated on me is their support of her being the basis of her belief, like that happens for everyone it doesnt. They saw an opportunity and took it. There is nothing more powerful than someone speaking in the name of God who use to be "wicked", All the while good families who were probably more deserving of support, but wouldnt be as effective a tool suffer. It just annoyed the shit out of me every time this ***** opened her mouth in this documentary. Well at least I can say this....no matter what you think you are I can still jerk off to you with two dicks in your mouth you slut.

 

[mikita's helmet]

Broken Flowers - 6/10. Not bad. Kind of slow w/ a decent story. I was a little confused by the end so I did have to research a bit. Probably one of Bill Murray's lesser known movies.

A friend & I took our wives to see it, and they both hated it, we both liked it, but I like Jim Jarmusch's films.

 

[mikita's helmet]

Watched God Bless America last night.

I thought it was mildly entertaining, and it was a nice soapbox for Bobcat to complain about popular culture.

It did drag in parts, and I felt it was beating you with the same message for 100 minutes.



6/10

Could've cut it down to 80 minutes, some funny stuff though. It was produced by Richard "Donnie Darko, Southland Tales" Kelly's production company Darko Tales, so that tells what to expect, especially "Southland Tales." Darko Tales also produced "World's Greatest Dad," another Goldthwait film starring Robin Williams, that also get some nice digs into popular culture.

 

[the canadian dream]

Could've cut it down to 80 minutes, some funny stuff though. It was produced by Richard "Donnie Darko, Southland Tales" Kelly's production company Darko Tales, so that tells what to expect, especially "Southland Tales." Darko Tales also produced "World's Greatest Dad," another Goldthwait film starring Robin Williams, that also get some nice digs into popular culture.

saw Worlds Greatest Dad a few nights ago. I thought it was brilliant and Williams was fantastic in it. He can really act when he chooses the right scripts. Great film. A lot of things going on in that film underneath it.

 

[The Mule]

I also watched World's Greatest Dad (with TCD, weird) and I've been thinking about it ever since. I really thought it hit on so many wonderful points about how grief plays out in different ways depending on the story people are being told and the complexity of different kinds of relationships and attention seeking and fame and opportunism and publishing even. It was dark but without being bleak and the character played by Williams was so layered and complex and believable. I have been non-stop recommending it to people for the past week.



It reminded me of Heathers in some ways, the dark comedy aspect as well as other themes. In death even a ****** bag can become a revered patron saint, can be loved and admired. We are so prone to speaking kindly about someone because they died, even if there were a total prick, which is absurd and useless. That person can't even appreciate your change of heart or change to become a better person. It's pretty ridiculous.