Nashville's new attempt at silencing Hawks fans

DMelt36

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I do like the site here and the posters, especially the amount of posts and different opinions. I don't like the over moderation, especially in the Hawks forum where most of us were told it was going to be like IHN and when non hawk board regulars jump in and light fires we get the boot because we go overboard. Fucking either shit or get off the pot.

Here's an idea:
Since this part of the boards has seen more than the usual mods around, why not just give the parties a 12-24 hour ban, make sure it's known why they got the ban, and we all move on and cooler heads prevail?


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While I don't disagree with you Trev... I'm not sure I have seen the over modderation in this forum really? What do you mean? The only real moderation we've done has been with Grimson and that's the same as IHN. Unless I'm forgetting something. Other than that this forum has been pretty untouched, I know I"m too lazy to really do anything.

Mass beat me to it.

To my knowledge neither Mass nor BHP have banned anyone here. I just banned two people, giving me three since I've been a mod, and the other was for posting porn.

But some of the other forums on this board, in my mind, have to be monitored a little closer because of the sheer volume of posts/posters (Bears forum) or because of the volatile nature of the teams involved (Cubs/Sox forums). Perhaps that could've been better communicated when you guys were brought over, but I know nothing of that process, just the result of it. In this Hawks forum, though, I don't think we're anything close to over-moderation. Pretty much anytime I use the word "ban" in here, it's in jest.
 

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I don't get why everyone is complaining. Talk about hockey, don't be an A-hole, don't disrupt other members talking about hockey...it isn't that hard. Don't agree with someone? Attack their hockey thought in a proper manner and go from there. Don't call them some childish name that makes you look like the idiot and that you wouldn't use in front of your mother but do here just because it is the internet. Quite frankly, I think there are 3 - 4 people from this thread alone who should have gotten banned for a period of time.
 

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The rules change depending on the flow. Some months you bleed more so you need an extra tampon or 2. Its no different here... Girl stuff really, I'd ask grimy to explain it to you guys a bit better but... I think he's dead.
 

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I don't get why everyone is complaining. Talk about hockey, don't be an A-hole, don't disrupt other members talking about hockey...it isn't that hard. Don't agree with someone? Attack their hockey thought in a proper manner and go from there. Don't call them some childish name that makes you look like the idiot and that you wouldn't use in front of your mother but do here just because it is the internet. Quite frankly, I think there are 3 - 4 people from this thread alone who should have gotten banned for a period of time.

Well, three have.

And while I agree with the arguments in your post, it's hopelessly ideal and that's all it'll ever be because Internet.
 

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I think the Hawks forum has a good amount of moderation. My "over moderation" was an incorrect term, but from what I've seen all over the boards it's the consistency in the moderation. Something's are modded to little and others too much.

Shit, I've read posts in the Bears forum that wasn't even close to stuff posted last night that was worse. Yet, a squabble that could be addressed simply by a "timeout" and warning gets a banning?


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I don't get why everyone is complaining. Talk about hockey, don't be an A-hole, don't disrupt other members talking about hockey...it isn't that hard. Don't agree with someone? Attack their hockey thought in a proper manner and go from there. Don't call them some childish name that makes you look like the idiot and that you wouldn't use in front of your mother but do here just because it is the internet. Quite frankly, I think there are 3 - 4 people from this thread alone who should have gotten banned for a period of time.

Well sure... that's great an all but you know, it being the internet and everything. not always as easy as just typing how it should act.
 

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Well, three have.

And while I agree with the arguments in your post, it's hopelessly ideal and that's all it'll ever be because Internet.

haha and you beat me to this one.
 

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I think the Hawks forum has a good amount of moderation. My "over moderation" was an incorrect term, but from what I've seen all over the boards it's the consistency in the moderation. Something's are modded to little and others too much.

Shit, I've read posts in the Bears forum that wasn't even close to stuff posted last night that was worse. Yet, a squabble that could be addressed simply by a "timeout" and warning gets a banning?


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I think the key thing here is that Grim asked for a ban. That's the difference.
 

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I think the Hawks forum has a good amount of moderation. My "over moderation" was an incorrect term, but from what I've seen all over the boards it's the consistency in the moderation. Something's are modded to little and others too much.

Shit, I've read posts in the Bears forum that wasn't even close to stuff posted last night that was worse. Yet, a squabble that could be addressed simply by a "timeout" and warning gets a banning?


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A lot of posters are "first time" offenders which mean they start off with a warning.. other squabbles there IMO aren't serious enough to warrant banning and usually cease if I say something. If it doesnt cease, then I ban.

A lot of what us mods go off is reported posts. Someone reports something we investigate. I don't sit on my computer all day long reading Bears forum threads. I don't have time or interest for that. So there are things that get let go.

And everyone gets heated about Jay Cutler, so there's that.
 

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I think the key thing here is that Grim asked for a ban. That's the difference.

According to Scoot he was going to get one anyways, and up until 30 minutes ago The Hawk and Despro didn't have shit (though, thanks for the follow through Dmelt) and I'm not sure they were going to get one without making any comments.


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I think the key thing here is that Grim asked for a ban. That's the difference.

True, but the argument can be made like all other things on the internet, is that really what he was saying? I mean yes, it was heavily implied but why would anyone have to ask to be permabanned when they can just... you know... not log in?
 

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If it's one thing I know, it's that he's touching himself inappropriately while reading this thread right now. hahaha... And I'm still going to beat him in the hockey pool.
 

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A lot of posters are "first time" offenders which mean they start off with a warning.. other squabbles there IMO aren't serious enough to warrant banning and usually cease if I say something. If it doesnt cease, then I ban.

A lot of what us mods go off is reported posts. Someone reports something we investigate. I don't sit on my computer all day long reading Bears forum threads. I don't have time or interest for that. So there are things that get let go.

And everyone gets heated about Jay Cutler, so there's that.

So essentially because certain individuals got butt hurt and went to "the principle" last night everyone got a ban.




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According to Scoot he was going to get one anyways, and up until 30 minutes ago The Hawk and Despro didn't have shit (though, thanks for the follow through Dmelt) and I'm not sure they were going to get one without making any comments.


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Bans are usually discussed in the staff forum. We also let mods who mod their areas usually decide what to do with people. Like I may read something in the Hawks forum that could be ban worthy, but I'm going to defer to DMelt, or the IHN mods on action. That could also explain some inconsistencies here as well.

In the case of Grim, what he did was going to warrant a ban anyways, especially given his past 8 bans or whatever the hell it is. He further escalated the situation which made the decision easy. DMelt decided the fate of the other two.
 

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So essentially because certain individuals got butt hurt and went to "the principle" last night everyone got a ban.




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The reported posts were not reported by any of the 3 individuals in the squabble.
 

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Bans are usually discussed in the staff forum. We also let mods who mod their areas usually decide what to do with people. Like I may read something in the Hawks forum that could be ban worthy, but I'm going to defer to DMelt, or the IHN mods on action. That could also explain some inconsistencies here as well.

In the case of Grim, what he did was going to warrant a ban anyways, especially given his past 8 bans or whatever the hell it is. He further escalated the situation which made the decision easy. DMelt decided the fate of the other two.

And for the record, I wasn't fully up to date on all the posts last night as I was trying to throw together an article for the home page immediately after the game and then I was busy all morning with my actual work, so other than a very brief log-on this morning, this was the first chance I had to sift through what actually happened.
 

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The reported posts were not reported by any of the 3 individuals in the squabble.

I wouldn't think so, but I'm sure it wasn't an IHN member.

Either way, we want consistency and it seems we got it.


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