New Quade thread.. only intelligent posts please

[Northside_slugger]

I could manage the team and they would still sell out, still sell hotdogs, and still sell Bud Light masquerading as Old Style.

90% of the people at Wrigley don't know/care if there is a baseball game going on. All of you act like this is some big deal, when all it really does is take up extra room in a newspaper.

Is this guy serious?

I can't tell.

 

[Lex L.]

And I still haven't heard one good reason why Sandberg should be the manager, other than being a Cubs legend. Which guess what? Doesn't actually mean anything when it comes to being a baseball manager.

He knows the farm system better. Its ironic that many of you apologists who want this youth movement overlook this glaring reality.

And, btw, since you cant provide a reason for why it should be Quade, thats like saying, it doesnt matter. So, if it doesnt matter, then why not Sandberg? This kind of means that Poodski is right.

And I also dont agree with your statement that its purely on being a legend. If they had given him the job off the street, that would giving it to him purely on being a legend. But the whole point to him managing in the minors was that it was a grooming process whereby he could be exposed to the organization from the ground up. Now theyre sh*tting on him just to hire some guy whose only discernable attribute is that he's easy to fire.

 

[Lex L.]

BTW, heres another reason. For people who point out that Quade has spent the last 18 years in the business, Ill just point out that a majority of that time was during the steroid era. The way the game was played is starting to revert back to the way it was played in the 80s more. So, if you have this idea that Sandberg is some guy who is a baseball caveman from a different time thats now outdated, guess again.

 

[Northside_slugger]

And I still haven't heard one good reason why Sandberg should be the manager, other than being a Cubs legend. Which guess what? Doesn't actually mean anything when it comes to being a baseball manager.

By Gene Wojciechowski -

Maybe this will work. Maybe a guy who would have never gotten a sniff at the full-time job if Lou Piniella hadn't flamed out will break the Chicago Cubs' 102-year starvation diet. Maybe Mike Quade is the next Jim Leyland or Earl Weaver, a nobody who became a baseball somebody.

But I doubt it.If it happens, if Quade can lead the Cubs to their first World Series championship since 1908, then I'll believe anything -- that Barry Bonds hit all those home runs because of flaxseed oil, that Wade Phillips will be the 2010 NFL Coach of the Year.

There are reasons why the Cubs are the Cubs -- and the decision to hire Quade is one of them. I'm not saying it's a terrible choice; just the wrong choice.

Link- The Chicago Cubs made the wrong choice when they named Mike Quade instead of Ryne Sandberg as their next manager. - ESPN Chicago

 

[DewsSox79]

instead of arguing why or why not. the fact is, quade is the manager and ryno isnt for one.

also, instead of picking fights with the quade lovers maybe the ryno lovers can to explain to all the quade lovers why ryno should have been the manager. please ryno fans why should he have been the manager?

this is a fucking business, and if you are too young to know how to run a business let me break it down for you.

1) the cubs will still be profitable during a rebuilding year or two.
2) bottom line may not be as huge, but there will be a nice bottom line
3) any smart corporation and or small to large business owner knows it is NOT about the quick buck but the entire big fucking picture(long term). ricketts knows damn well that he isnt going to set records this year financially, he is thinking long term, because he is a new business owner. if you go into a new fucking business trying to make a quick buck you will FAIL! FAIL! THIS MOVE IS FOR THE LONG TERM BOTTOM LINE! If I did things for a quick buck i would be out of business, i took my bruises early because i thought long term.

 

[cubsneedmiracle]

I could manage the team and they would still sell out, still sell hotdogs, and still sell Bud Light masquerading as Old Style.

90% of the people at Wrigley don't know/care if there is a baseball game going on. All of you act like this is some big deal, when all it really does is take up extra room in a newspaper.

I'd say its about 30-40% that are just brain dead on a daily game basis..

90% is a tad.. bunch too much.

 

[Lex L.]

instead of arguing why or why not. the fact is, quade is the manager and ryno isnt for one.

also, instead of picking fights with the quade lovers maybe the ryno lovers can to explain to all the quade lovers why ryno should have been the manager. please ryno fans why should he have been the manager?

this is a fucking business, and if you are too young to know how to run a business let me break it down for you.

1) the cubs will still be profitable during a rebuilding year or two.
2) bottom line may not be as huge, but there will be a nice bottom line
3) any smart corporation and or small to large business owner knows it is NOT about the quick buck but the entire big fucking picture(long term). ricketts knows damn well that he isnt going to set records this year financially, he is thinking long term, because he is a new business owner. if you go into a new fucking business trying to make a quick buck you will FAIL! FAIL! THIS MOVE IS FOR THE LONG TERM BOTTOM LINE! If I did things for a quick buck i would be out of business, i took my bruises early because i thought long term.

Oh, the irony. You talk about not picking fights but this is exactly what youre doing. Maybe you should go where you belong.

STFU, tool. Thats what was being discussed.

Now run along.

 

[cubsneedmiracle]

BTW, heres another reason. For people who point out that Quade has spent the last 18 years in the business, Ill just point out that a majority of that time was during the steroid era. The way the game was played is starting to revert back to the way it was played in the 80s more. So, if you have this idea that Sandberg is some guy who is a baseball caveman from a different time thats now outdated, guess again.

:rolling:

I don't think any of us are really pointing out that Sandberg's game style is caveman-ish..

Sure at this point it may favor the minor league style.. Where you're try to teach and prepare for the MLB level.

That doesn't mean that he couldn't change from doing multiple bunt plays a game into maybe doing one at the right time..

Oh.. and managers have made different lineups with due to different roster personnel for years.. So no matter what manager is running the team.. He should be able to at least use his roster to succeed... or at least attempt to put his team in the position to succeed.

 

[Lex L.]

I'd say its about 30-40% that are just brain dead on a daily game basis..

90% is a tad.. bunch too much.

yeah, grab a clue. It hasnt been like that since 2003. If that were true, peoople wouldnt stop showing up in August. Was the ballpark empty at the end of 2006? What about 2009 and 2010? If people were just there for the beer, they wouldnt stop going when the season is lost.

Just stop already.

 

[Lex L.]

:rolling:

I don't think any of us are really pointing out that Sandberg's game style is caveman-ish..

Sure at this point it may favor the minor league style.. Where you're try to teach and prepare for the MLB level.

That doesn't mean that he couldn't change from doing multiple bunt plays a game into maybe doing one at the right time..

Oh.. and managers have made different lineups with due to different roster personnel for years.. So no matter what manager is running the team.. He should be able to at least use his roster to succeed... or at least attempt to put his team in the position to succeed.

I agree that it depends on your personnel. I made that point when people were kvetching about the bunting and makign blanket statements that bunting is bad. But you should check out some of the posts criticizing Sandberg for managing like its from a time that man forgot with all the bunting.

 

[cubsneedmiracle]

Oh, the irony. You talk about not picking fights but this is exactly what youre doing. Maybe you should go where you belong.

STFU, tool. Thats what was being discussed.

Now run along.

Lex = CCS's Glenn Beck..

Lex says "You're picking fights" (Hence he's saying its bad)

Then..

Lex picks fights in the entire forum.. after saying picking fights is bad.

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There wasn't really any fighting in here previously.. Sure not all of us agree.. Everyone else can keep it civil though.

 

[cubsneedmiracle]

yeah, grab a clue. It hasnt been like that since 2003. If that were true, peoople wouldnt stop showing up in August. Was the ballpark empty at the end of 2006? What about 2009 and 2010? If people were just there for the beer, they wouldnt stop going when the season is lost.

Just stop already.

I see a small minority that are there for the booze and booze only.

I on average go to 5 to 20 games a year..

 

[cubsneedmiracle]

I agree that it depends on your personnel. I made that point when people were kvetching about the bunting and makign blanket statements that bunting is bad. But you should check out some of the posts criticizing Sandberg for managing like its from a time that man forgot with all the bunting.

Over bunting is bad.

 

[Lex L.]

Lex = CCS's Glenn Beck..

Lex says "You're picking fights" (Hence he's saying its bad)

Then..

Lex picks fights in the entire forum.. after saying picking fights is bad.

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There wasn't really any fighting in here previously.. Sure not all of us agree.. Everyone else can keep it civil though.

Look whos talking. Youre the guy who would start humping his dog if a mod told you. The guy tries to act like the Sanberg people owe the Quade people explanations more than the other way around. And his justification that its because Quade was hired is also beyond Special person. Not only that, but just a few posts before his craptacular display of position taking, I was telling one of your fellow Quadeheads why theres reason for it to be Sandberg and not Quade. He's just running cover because kleenex embarrassed himself and couldnt offer a reason why it should be Quade. So now he's trying to run interference for that embarrassment of one of your brethren.

Sox posts are pure garbage. They pretend to be engaged and you feel flattered because you and he are connected in thinking your better than 90% of the Cubs fans. I got news for you. Youre not better and youre not smarter. So this elitist act is a farce. You guys cant even come up with an actual reason why it should be Quade. Youre just contrarians that try to be these elitist posers.

 

[cubsneedmiracle]

Look whos talking. Youre the guy who would start humping his dog if a mod told you. The guy tries to act like the Sanberg people owe the Quade people explanations more than the other way around. And his justification that its because Quade was hired is also beyond Special person. Not only that, but just a few posts before his craptacular display of position taking, I was telling one of your fellow Quadeheads why theres reason for it to be Sandberg and not Quade. He's just running cover because kleenex embarrassed himself and couldnt offer a reason why it should be Quade. So now he's trying to run interference for that embarrassment of one of your brethren.

Sox posts are pure garbage. They pretend to be engaged because you feel flattered for some reason because you and he are connected in thinking your better than 90% of the Cubs fans. I got news for you. Youre not better and youre not smarter. So this elitist act is a farce. You guys cant even come up with an actual reason why it should be Quade. Youre just contrarians that try to be these elitist posers.

Well now I know you're the Glenn Beck of CCS.

 

[Lex L.]

Over bunting is bad.

Im going to let you in on a little secret. Modifying any verb with "over" automatically connotes that its too much. Youre not really going out on a limb making this statement. Over-bunting is bad...lol...yes, ok, By definition thats quite right but its a rather inane observation to make because by definition (ie using "over"), its too much. But the question is what is too much.

Again, it depends on personnel and circumstances. I know thats not going out on a limb either but at least Im not making some bogus statement thats, by definition, redundnant.

 

[Lex L.]

Well now I know you're the Glenn Beck of CCS.

I dont even know who that is.

Go hug your Quade Teddy Bear.

 

[cubsneedmiracle]

Im going to let you in on a little secret. Modifying any verb with "over" automatically connotes that its too much. Youre not really going out on a limb making this statement. Over-bunting is bad...lol...yes, ok, By definition thats quite right but its a rather inane observation to make because by definition (ie using "over"), its too much. But the question is what is too much.

Again, it depends on personnel and circumstances. I know thats not going out on a limb either but at least Im not making some bogus statement thats, by definition, redundnant.

No one gives a **** if its "redundant"

Generally when you "over-bunt" you run into easy outs. It's not hard to figure out here.

 

[cubsneedmiracle]

I dont even know who that is.

Go hug your Quade Teddy Bear.

I'd actually would've been fine with any of the Quade, Wedge, Sandberg collection..

Wedge being my top choice. Too bad he's in Seattle.

 

[Lex L.]

No one gives a **** if its "redundant"

Generally when you "over-bunt" you run into easy outs. It's not hard to figure out here.

Yeah, actually, the biggest downfall to bunting is wasting outs. This is what all the tinfoil hats will tell you and its the truth. Bunting has inherent risks that are true whether you bunt a little or a lot. Whether or not the baserunner could have stole the base anyway, is an issue when considering bunting. So is whether or not youre more likely to get 1 hit with fewer outs than 2 hits with more outs. That all hinges on personnel. Which is what I said.

Stop being this poser.

Oh and youre really amusing. When you say something stupid like "too hot means something is too hot...bunting too much means youre bunting too much" no one cares and this is how you try to play it off. And this is after youve called cubs fans stupid. Thats rich.