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I would like to see Girardi, if he wants to take on the challenge. He may have a little too much vinegar for Theos liking.
Does anyone see the parallels of his decision with the make up of this board?
Some want instant gratification (he goes with the Yankees who are basically still ready to compete)
Or, He's all on board for the long build which may take awhile. But if successful people may forget about DaCoach. Joe will own Chicago. Irony at its best
 

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I would like to see Girardi, if he wants to take on the challenge. He may have a little too much vinegar for Theos liking.
Does anyone see the parallels of his decision with the make up of this board?
Some want instant gratification (he goes with the Yankees who are basically still ready to compete)
Or, He's all on board for the long build which may take awhile. But if successful people may forget about DaCoach. Joe will own Chicago. Irony at its best

If Girardi decides he wants to take a year or two off to be in the booth is that like a self banning?
 

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If Girardi decides he wants to take a year or two off to be in the booth is that like a self banning?

I'm talking about Joe taking the helm on this build and seeing things through. I don't want to see the Cubs taking a year or two off before they hire him.
 

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I'm talking about Joe taking the helm on this build and seeing things through. I don't want to see the Cubs taking a year or two off before they hire him.

Which may or may not be the Cubs choice as there has been plenty to suggest that Girardi might decide to take that time off.
 

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I'd say that if Joe isn't hired this time around, he'll not be part of the Theo regime ever.
 

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I wouldn't doubt this is already decided, but we'll see. I don't see them firing Sveum without a plan in mind. Girardi would be a perfect fit if he's committed. I'm not buying that he and his wife wouldn't like to be back in Chicago. It's not the Yankees, but there are also some positives to that.
 

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I wouldn't doubt this is already decided, but we'll see. I don't see them firing Sveum without a plan in mind. Girardi would be a perfect fit if he's committed. I'm not buying that he and his wife wouldn't like to be back in Chicago. It's not the Yankees, but there are also some positives to that.

A lot of positives to keep the family right where they are so the kids (I assume he has some) can keep their friends
 

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A lot of positives to keep the family right where they are so the kids (I assume he has some) can keep their friends

Yes he does have kids. I believe it is three school aged kids which is a factor and not one to be overlooked.
 

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Reports are that the front runner is AJ Hinch Disappointing that the FO is looking at former inside guys instead of someone truly from the outside.
 

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I don't love AJ Hinch, but the impact of a manager is overstated by most. Either way I am not getting up in arms since interviews haven't even occurred yet.
 

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I don't love AJ Hinch, but the impact of a manager is overstated by most. Either way I am not getting up in arms since interviews haven't even occurred yet.

I agree it is overstated. But why don't "they" see that? Only as an example as I am not picking on the Cubs, but why pay a guy to stay home if his impact is not that great.
 

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Reports are that the front runner is AJ Hinch Disappointing that the FO is looking at former inside guys instead of someone truly from the outside.

This has to be partly Jed's if they truly indeed hire him. I am not certain what the fascination with robbing the Padres of their system is going to get. Is this one of the few teams they are dealing with?

If they are going to go after guys, at least look into other teams that have proven track records and lengthy success.
 

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This has to be partly Jed's if they truly indeed hire him. I am not certain what the fascination with robbing the Padres of their system is going to get. Is this one of the few teams they are dealing with?

If they are going to go after guys, at least look into other teams that have proven track records and lengthy success.

But the Padres have had all of those HOFers since Tony Gwynn...................*crickets*
 

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Theo Baseball should just hire himself to be manager.
 

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Theo Baseball should just hire himself to be manager.

Probably not enough money in the budget.

However, he did beat Jed in the ST bunting contest. So, he's got that going for him.

I wonder if he can hit? We indeed know he can do a pitch. :smug2:
 

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Outside of Hoyer cronyism, I don't get why Hinch would be at the top of the list. Someone suggested he had worked well with a young team, yet he was fired from his gig with AZ after compiling an 89-123 record in 212 games. If you fired Sveum, why would you hire this one? He may be bright and he was a catcher, but it's just very odd. I also don't equate the Padres with winning. Perhaps I'm wrong.
 

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Since the Cubs in the past two decades have been getting a high percentage of "Top candidate" available to manage the team (Baker, Pinella, Baylor), who might fit that mold that would benefit the team? Again assuming Girardi stays put.

How about Odlie but a goodie Jack McKeon?
 

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http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/cal-ripken-jr-says-he-would-listen-if-cubs-came-calling

What if the Cubs don't get their man with Joe Girardi?

As Patrick Mooney pointed out, names like Sandy Alomar Jr. and A.J. Hinch are on the Cubs' radar.

But what about a guy like Cal Ripken Jr.? Would baseball's Iron Man come to the North Side?

The 53-year-old has been retired since 2001 and said he had no intention of managing before, but after being around the game lately on the broadcast side of things, he has started to change his mind.

"The urge to do something in baseball has come back, and I guess I'd be more inclined to listen because I'd be a little bit more interested at this stage, but I haven't figured that out yet," Ripken said on the David Kaplan Show Wednesday night.

"I have to be very careful how I answer that question because it seems like speculation runs rampant, but it's an interesting position to be in. But yeah, I think I'd listen a little bit more than I would have certainly three or four years ago."

Ripken admitted it would be exciting to see the Cubs return to the postseason -- especially on an annual basis -- just as the Pittsburgh Pirates have brought excitement and energy to this year's playoffs.

The Cubs have the most famous championship drought in professional sports history, so a chance to be at the helm, leading a team to the promised land can stir even the most humble man's ego.

[RELATED: Theo says Cubs job will sell itself]

Ripken said he thinks "ultimate challenge" is one of the reasons Theo Epstein chose to come to Chicago after ending the Red Sox drought in Boston. The two-time AL MVP declared himself a developmental guy, and said some managers wouldn't want to come to a team that is not already a contender.

"It does take a developmental guy," Ripken said. "It does take someone that can get the best out of players and teach them at the big-league level. Once you get more depth in your organization, then you start to see the fruits in your development in the minor leagues, and it becomes a feeder system."

As for the guys already in the major leagues, Ripken had plenty to say about how to get the most out of Starlin Castro, who suffered through the worst year of his career in 2013 under Dale Sveum.

"It's a matter of establishing trust with that player, whether it's a matter of coming up through that organization and him knowing that you have his best interest at heart," Ripken said. "You gotta give him a little slack because he's young and there's a lot left to learn.

"I think part of developing a player like that is [letting him know] it's for his own benefit and preserve the fact that you're not always getting on him in front of others. And do it in a fashion that's trying to make him a better shortstop and a better player because he's a key player on that team."

Ripken feels Epstein already knows who he wants as a manager and has had a plan in place for a while.

[MORE: Girardi or bust? Pressure is on Theo to deliver next manager]

Right now, all the focus is on Girardi and his offer from the Yankees. Girardi has managed for seven years and has a World Series championship on his resume, but Ripken played down the importance of big-league experience.

"I think, ultimately, it's the right baseball guy," Ripken said. "[Look at Cardinals manager] Mike Matheny. He had no managerial experience, but he was the right baseball guy.

"I don't think you should worry too much about overall big-league managerial experience. It's who is the right baseball guy for that position."

Could it be Ripken, one of the most cerebral players of all time?
 

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This one caught me off guard...Cal as the manager of the Cubs....that in itself would grab the nations attention and I believe these kinds would listen to what he has to say.
 
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