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Wallin from SJ signed in the Swedish league...Ian White is a UFA



I'd still try the Hjarllmarsson/plus for Pavelski



If Doug Wilson were to dangle that tradeoff I'd jump on that shit in a fucking heartbeat without even a blink let alone a pause! If I can't have Laich I would gladly and giddily take JP for the 2nd line!
 

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I think you go after a proven 2nd line Center. One for Depth and two allow Bolland to stay on the 3rd line where he's been most productive when healthy.



Again you have Sharp-Toews-Kane, Someone-Someone-Hossa, Frolik-Bolland-Bickell.



Sharp can then be used as "depth" at Center if needed. And for the majority allow him to play where he's most comfortable.



I just can't see how anyone would be happy with our depth at Center. It cost us the playoffs this year. We went 0-3 in the first round. Why, because Sharp was not healthy enough to play Center and Bolland was still concussed.



So you started the playoffs without a #2 and #3 Center for the first three games. Game #4 Q put Sharp to #2 and Bolland was back at #3. That's a serious depth problem with NO remedy in Rockford.



And if that costs us Hjarlmarsson so what? I like Hjarlmarsson but he's not physical, he's not hugely productive, rather a good stay at home guy for 3.5 mil per year. Where as if they delt him they could locate someone stay at home and PHYSICAL intimidating. Similar to Seabrook on the physicality side. Right now our D has ONE physical guy. Seabrook. If I had to chose between Leddy and Hjarlmarsson I know which it would be. No question.
 

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I'm not saying we shouldn't go after a center, I'm saying we just don't need another star player. Go ahead, grab a center, but there's no use in paying big money. All we need is a little depth. Grab a center who can play PK and well defensively that could come cheap. Jason Arnott? Marcel Goc? Jeff Halpern? Eric Belanger? John Madden? Marty Reasoner? (Personally, I think Paul Gaustad would be an excellent fit but I doubt he is available) I don't think any of those guys would break the bank and all of them fit the criteria I'm describing. Plus you'll have Johnson and maybe Kruger if they want to keep him up here. Toews, Bolland, (FA), Johnson, Kruger can step in... Sharp if needed.



2nd and 3rd line are practically interchangeable. I like the D-corps the way it is. Hjalmarsson is physical in other ways besides just laying someone out, maybe it doesn't show up in the hits department but the year we won the Cup our D was practically identical and our only "physical" d-man was Seabrook. If anything it was better on paper last year than it was the year we won.



Personally, I would go for that cheaper center with some grit, good PK work, and defensively savvy, then get a winger with grit as well. Pascal Dupuis, Chris Clark, Michael Rupp, Adam Hall, Jeff Tambellini, Aaron Asham, Mike Grier, Patrick Eaves all sound like good pick-ups to me. If you want another center, maybe Zenon Konopka, Todd Marchant, Maxime Talbot...



Keep the D-core the way it is, there's nothing wrong with it. The problem was players like Pisani, Stalberg, Dowell were just not good enough. Funny though, they hit more than Ladd, Fraser, Madden, Eager, etc.. etc.. In fact, last year our team out hit our Cup team (1,823 to 1,555 hits overall). It's an overrated stat.



They need guys that know how to pick their spots, they need agitators and defensive forwards, not cheap defenseman running out of position to make a hit and make dumb plays and a 2nd line C that probably won't play any PK time and make someone like Toews go on there because everyone else sucks at it. You had a "cheap physical d-man" in Boynton how did that work out? Cheap d-man based on hitting don't work in Chicago's scheme of things, we rely on puck movement, hitting is a non-factor if the guy making the hit can't make a play.



If they can get a "2nd line C" that's great, but I sure as hell hope they get a few gritty defensive forwards to keep the other teams stars in check and wear them down instead of being a turnstyle for them.



Sharp/Toews/Kane

Brouwer/Bolland/Hossa

Bickell/Goc/Frolik

Grier/Johnson/Smith



Reserves: Scott, Kruger



Keith/Seabs

Campbell/Hammer

Leddy/Campoli



Crawford

Salak



Something like that could work under the cap and gives us plenty of depth. Maybe Goc could play with Hossa if you really want to keep Bolland with Bickell/Frolik.
 

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Bolland and Hossa have never played well together. What makes you think they will now? Meanwhile Frolik-Bolland-Bickell were on FIRE before Bickell went down for surgery... I'm not quite sure Goc is a 2nd line Center. Pavelski would work for sure.



You are moving Bolland up to #2 where so far he has not proven he can play. Not to mention the above. Trial by error again this year? No thanks.



And I completely disagree the D corp is fine right now. They are clearly not physical enough, another reason they were beat to shit on the hit board in the playoffs. When one of 6-7 D men hits it's not enough. No one was talking about forwards we were talking about D men. I don't care what Ladd et all did.
 

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I guess the Cup team's D-core wasn't physical enough either. You won't find a "cheap physical d-man" that will be able to make an outlet pass and keep up with our puck movement. That costs $$.
 

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Bolland and Hossa have never played well together. What makes you think they will now? Meanwhile Frolik-Bolland-Bickell were on FIRE before Bickell went down for surgery... I'm not quite sure Goc is a 2nd line Center. Pavelski would work for sure.



You are moving Bolland up to #2 where so far he has not proven he can play. Not to mention the above. Trial by error again this year? No thanks.



And I completely disagree the D corp is fine right now. They are clearly not physical enough, another reason they were beat to shit on the hit board in the playoffs. When one of 6-7 D men hits it's not enough. No one was talking about forwards we were talking about D men. I don't care what Ladd et all did.



He sure would.
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Also? That contract extension Pavelski signed last year is fucking SWEET!



Yeah, me no likey what I've seen of the Hossa-Bolland pairing so far---they have had a very few great moments but it's been largely underwhelming (and that's assuming they've both been healthy! lol). On pretty much any other team Hossa would have de facto gotten to play with a team's best Centre but seeing as since he signed the Hawks have had the whole conundrum of "Hossa and Kane are both RW who shoot left" problem, plus the obvious which is that if you can spread your weapons across more lines and be more of threat then you do, and lastly since Kane is an offensive stud who also deserves the best Centre on the team then I think it only makes sense to at least cement Hossa with a hard-working stud C with some measure of skill. Not a STAR! mind you (no one's talking about adding on more cap headaches and getting a Toews or Malkin here) but if they can get anyone in the next tier they have an obligation to do so otherwise they are blowing his contract IMO. The time for dicking around on this issue is over. Getting a great 2C would make everyone happy---Hossa finally would have someone he can gel with, Sharp gets to stay on the LW which he prefers, Bolland gets to fucking be a nuisance and also KILL IT on the 3rd line, and either Sharp or Bolland can be moved up or down used in emergency 2nd line situations. Hawks get someone like a Laich or Pavelski or ?Whoever? for the 2nd line and they have instantly strengthened their entire spine down the middle where as before it was weak and often times looked like it was in need of a brace.
 

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Bob McKenzie of TSN just tweeted the cap's upper limit will be 64 million. Could be very beneficial for the Hawks, with that high of a cap we could definitely make a run at one of the better centers available and maybe still keep Hammer.
 

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The main thing the Hawks need to address in regards to FA's is signing quality bottom 6 players, no more of that bargain bin shit. A good responsible center that could if needed step up and eat bigger minutes is paramount. Some more depth on the D core wouldn't hurt either as someone is bound to be banged up at some point. With the salary cap possibly going as high as $64m it helps the Hawks, but it doesn't mean Bowman should splooge on some high-priced player just because. Pick the right competent role players as that was what was lacking from this team last year.
 

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Blackhawks Summer Suggestion Box

June 16, 2011 | Filed under: Chicago Blackhawks,Western Conference | Posted by: Ken Oda



Now that the smoke has cleared from the Stanley Cup finals and the 2010 season its time to look ahead to the 2011 off-season. This is the first real off-season for Stan Bowman who went into last summer with his hands tied behind his back thanks to Dale Tallon’s mismanaging of the salary cap.



With 8 forwards, 6 defensemen, and 2 goalies under contract already the Hawks need to add at least 4 forwards to reach the minimum along with probably one more defenseman making John Scott the swing man and frequent healthy scratch. There has been no firm number put on next season’s salary cap so for now I will work on an estimated 2.5 million dollar increase giving the Hawks roughly 7.6 million in cap space. Here is a look at just a few of the possible routes Bowman can take.





The Conservative Route:



With the Hawks top 4 d-men locked up and 6 of their top 7 scoring forwards signed through next season the Hawks are not in danger of losing any member of their coveted core. Tomas Kopecky is the best UFA on the roster and Troy Brouwer, Michael Frolik, and Chris Campoli, are the only RFAs of consequence. All four can be brought back under the cap and the Hawks would probably still have room for one 1.5 to 2 million dollar player.



If Campoli is brought back the UFA player added would probably be a center as that is the position that the Hawks have the least depth. Of course a $2 million center would probably not fill the second line center roll meaning Dave Bolland would probably shift up into that role. Marty Reasoner or Eric Belanger might fit the bill.



The conservative route is not without merit; this team is more talented than the 8 seed it was. Injuries and the fabled Stanley Cup hangover certainly lead to a bad start that had the team playing catch-up. When healthy the Hawks went on a 7-2-1 run in December and a 10-1-2 run in February. This team also seemed to play to their competition, going 21-13-8 against teams that made the playoffs while only going 23-16-1 against teams that missed the playoffs.







Laich is set to be a UFA July 1st and would be a great fit on the second line.





The Mini Rebuild:



With the core under contract the Hawks could opt to deal a few of their RFAs and then have some money to spend on the UFA crop. Brouwer and Campoli probably don’t have ideal roles on this team. Campoli’s qualifying offer of 1.4 million is a bit expensive for a 5[sup]th[/sup]or 6[sup]th[/sup] defensman. Brouwer has disappeared down the stretch of each of the last two seasons and hasn’t shown an ability to score when not playing next to Jonathan Toewsand Patrick Kane.



Trading the two expensive RFAs away would leave only Frolik as an expensive RFA and his qualifying offer is only $803,205 though he will probably be re-signed for a little more than that with a longer term. Bring back Viktor Stalberg and bring up Jeremy Morin and the Hawks would be at 11 forwards with just over five million in cap space.



The Hawks could then look to add one big signing Brooks Laich to center the second line or Ville Leino at wing or bring back James Wisniewski to bring a physical preference on the blue line. The other option would be to add a pair of mid-priced free agents such as Steve Eminger plus getting a mid priced center in the trade of Brouwer or Campoli.



The mini-rebuild might be just what the doctor ordered for this team. With Sharp entering the final year of his deal the Hawks could afford to sign a player to a 4 to 5 million dollar player to essentially replace him after next season. The addition of a second line center either Laich or a player acquired through trade would allow Sharp to play on the wing of Toews and Kane which has been one of the best lines in hockey when Sharp isn’t centering the second line. It also allows Bolland to play in the third line checking role for which he is best suited.







The Super Aggressive Route:



As someone who grew up reading Sam Smith in his heyday covering the Chicago Bulls I’m prone to dreaming up big roster moves. While I admit this is totally unlikely I think in a way it does make sense. It is the kind of move that either gets a GM fired or his name on the cup and for that reason never happens.



Patrick Sharp is entering the final year of his deal. He will be 30 next off-season and is coming off of a career scoring year. It is pretty unlikely that he will re-sign for the $3.9 million he is making now. Even though Niklas Hjalmarsson bounced back a little in the second half he still took a big step back this season and is making $3.5 million for the next three seasons.



The Blackhawks should trade both of these players freeing up $7.4 million for next season on top of the $7.6 million they already have brining their total cap space up to $15 million to sign 5 forwards and 2 defensmen. The Hawks should look for draft picks and/or mid to high level prospects in return. Again Frolik and Stalberg can be brought back on their qualifying offers plus Morin added for a total of $2.4 million. Leaving $12.6 million for 2 forwards and 2 defensmen.





Adding Steven Stamkos would be the kind of move that got Stan Bowman out of his father's shadow.





The Hawks should then sign one of the big RFAs from this seasons class to an offersheet. While Drew Doughty and Shea Weber would give the Hawks the best blue line in the NHL (and I would have no problem with adding them); I would target Steven Stamkos for about $7.5 million for 5 or 6 years. Tampa would have a difficult time matching even though they have almost $23 million in cap space as they only have 11 players under contract and all of the big money guys have no trade clauses.



Stamkos would take the Hawks weakest position of center and make it a strength with Toews, Stamkos, and Bolland down the middle. Hossa, Kane, and Smith would be on the right wing with Morin, Frolik, and possibly Stalberg on the left side. The Hawks would then have about $5.1 million remaining to fill three roster spots which leaves plenty of room for quality players to be brought in for those roles. Such as Steve Eminger and Troy Brouwer.



The $7.5 million would require the Hawks to give up 2 first round picks along with a second and a third. While that sounds high the Hawks picked up several picks and prospects in last season’s cap purge and should add more in trading Sharp and Hjalmarsson. Also with the exception of Hossa and Campbell the rest of the core is under 30 so a few missed draft picks would not be that high of a price to pay.



Of course I don’t expect Bowman to pull the trigger on this it sure is fun to imagine.





SOURCE: http://thehockeywrit...suggestion-box/
 

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Bob McKenzie of TSN just tweeted the cap's upper limit will be 64 million. Could be very beneficial for the Hawks, with that high of a cap we could definitely make a run at one of the better centers available and maybe still keep Hammer.



Awesome! Thank you Winnipeg and your $60 mil transfer fee to the League----every team gets a piece of that pie and the cap goes up even more than it normally would have for the upcoming season. Then the 2012-2013 season one would expect the cap to dip back down to its normal mean except THAT season is when the revenue sharing from the new TV contract kicks in---sounds good from my Hawks nation vantage point!
 

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I seriously don't see why some so-called "hockey experts" constantly milm their undershorts with Stalberg. He's fake-tits-on-a-zombie levels of worthless.



And honestly, Ton, I would NOT break up Frolik/Bolland/Bickell. Spreading out scoring is one thing, but a shutdown line that is pretty damned close to Ladd/Bolland/Havlat but without the scoring touch is a nice thing to have around--especially against teams that like to light the lamp.
 

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LOL @ Stamkos on the Hawks.





Hahahaha---I know right? TB has cap space to spare not to mention Stamkos likes his FL lifestyle. But it was good for yuks and feverish dreaming as the writer intended. In any event, all I cared about from that article was the "Mini Rebuild"/Brooks Laich portion, heh.
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He's only 25....6'4 210 with above average speed.



This was his first full NHL season, with a new team. He shouldn't cost much to resign so why bail on him already?



DET has all kinds of players like this - they don't just dump them after 1 season, especially when the team holds their rights



Abdelkater - 2nd rnd pick - 24yrs old - 7g-12a-19pts - 825K

Eaves - 1st rnd pick - 26yrs old - 13g-7a-20pts - 750K

Helm - 5th rnd pick - 24yrs old - 12g-20a-32pts - 1mil (11g-13a-24pts in 1st year)



Stalberg - 6th rnd pick - 25yrs old - 12g-12a-24pts 850k



A 2nd year with a team, confidence...goes a long way. "Hockey experts" like him because he does have decent size,great speed and a good shot - and is young.
 

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He's only 25....6'4 210 with above average speed.



This was his first full NHL season, with a new team. He shouldn't cost much to resign so why bail on him already?



DET has all kinds of players like this - they don't just dump them after 1 season, especially when the team holds their rights



Abdelkater - 2nd rnd pick - 24yrs old - 7g-12a-19pts - 825K

Eaves - 1st rnd pick - 26yrs old - 13g-7a-20pts - 750K

Helm - 5th rnd pick - 24yrs old - 12g-20a-32pts - 1mil (11g-13a-24pts in 1st year)



Stalberg - 6th rnd pick - 25yrs old - 12g-12a-24pts 850k



A 2nd year with a team, confidence...goes a long way. "Hockey experts" like him because he does have decent size,great speed and a good shot - and is young.



Agreed. What are they gonna get better for $1 mil WITH the potential some still feel he can tap? That combo of size and mega-mega-speed (not to mention relative youth) is rare enough that I'd say he deserves a shot at another season because he finally seemed to get it into his thick head that he had to get more physical towards the very end of the season. He was trying to improve his game there at the end I feel. I for one hope he's continuing to work on that aspect of his game during the offseason as I think maybe he gets now that if he doesn't the Hawks will jettison him off and I think he likes playing for the club and likes the city. If he has turned a corner and we see it during Training Camp and the new season his measly contract becomes a right fucking steal for the type of weapon he could be on the depth chart. He apparently had some sort of nasty, nasty throat infection that wouldn't respond to antibiotics during the playoffs and that needed to be taken care of surgically as soon as the season ended so I'll cut his already limited playing minutes some slack on that tip. I know I am gonna be hella pissed if they let him go and he goes to another team and turns the fucking corner and realizes what his combination of physical gifts can produce if he works at it! lol
 

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Agreed. What are they gonna get better for $1 mil WITH the potential some still feel he can tap? That combo of size and mega-mega-speed (not to mention relative youth) is rare enough that I'd say he deserves a shot at another season because he finally seemed to get it into his thick head that he had to get more physical towards the very end of the season. He was trying to improve his game there at the end I feel. I for one hope he's continuing to work on that aspect of his game during the offseason as I think maybe he gets now that if he doesn't the Hawks will jettison him off and I think he likes playing for the club and likes the city. If he has turned a corner and we see it during Training Camp and the new season his measly contract becomes a right fucking steal for the type of weapon he could be on the depth chart. He apparently had some sort of nasty, nasty throat infection that wouldn't respond to antibiotics during the playoffs and that needed to be taken care of surgically as soon as the season ended so I'll cut his already limited playing minutes some slack on that tip. I know I am gonna be hella pissed if they let him go and he goes to another team and turns the fucking corner and realizes what his combination of physical gifts can produce if he works at it! lol



Yep, gotta give him that.
 

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Yep, gotta give him that.



Dude, and color me surprised to only now just read a few weeks old (Salak hadn't even been signed when it was posted on 06/08/11) TSN article by Scott Cullen specutlating about what the Hawks should do roster-wise this offseason and seeing that Stalberg had the best shot differential stats on the entire team.
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Watching the season transpire was largely so fraustrating noticing that kind of shit went WAY over my radar or even eye test.





Picked up from the Maple Leafs in last summer's salary purge, Viktor Stalberg played 77 games for the Blackhawks, but averaged a modest 10:42 of ice time per game. While he didn't play a lot, he did have the best shot differential (five-on-five, per 60 minutes) on the team, perhaps an indication that he might be able to play a more significant scoring role.



At the minimum, though, Stalberg gives the Blackhawks depth, providing skill on the third or fourth line, with the ability to slide up the depth chart to fill-in on a scoring unit, if necessary.



SOURCE: TSN: OFF-SEASON GAME PLAN: CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS
 

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The main thing the Hawks need to address in regards to FA's is signing quality bottom 6 players, no more of that bargain bin shit. A good responsible center that could if needed step up and eat bigger minutes is paramount. Some more depth on the D core wouldn't hurt either as someone is bound to be banged up at some point. With the salary cap possibly going as high as $64m it helps the Hawks, but it doesn't mean Bowman should splooge on some high-priced player just because. Pick the right competent role players as that was what was lacking from this team last year.



Exactly what I was saying, good post. I don't want to be trading someone to "make room" for someone else, then have to search the bargain bin to fill out the rest of the roster. We already did that.
 

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Bob McKenzie of TSN just tweeted the cap's upper limit will be 64 million. Could be very beneficial for the Hawks, with that high of a cap we could definitely make a run at one of the better centers available and maybe still keep Hammer.



This is great news, hopefully we'll be able to get a very good center and keep Hammer.



For the record, this Laich + Hossa love is crazy, I honestly doubt the combination would work since both of them are lefties.
 

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Hossa would be better with a left handed center. Being on the RW, its an easier outlet pass to be made from C to RW
 

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