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2024 2nd round pick for Chase Young?

Probably an unpopular opinion here, but I 100% trade a 2024 2nd for Chase Young, if he can be had for that. I think the Bears are in a good position to make a trade like this. First of all, they have the draft picks to spare potentially. Obviously, they have the 2 1sts with their own and Carolina's. But they also potentially could get a 3rd from Ian Cunningham getting a GM job, which if they pull off this trade and win some games, it's a foregone conclusion. They could give up their 2nd for Young and still potentially have 2 top 20 picks and 4 in the top 103 or so. Adding Young, along with a better season from Fields and the OL likely puts the Bears 2nd much closer to the late 40s or early 50s than the 32nd overall like they gave up for Claypool. They'd also have the flexibility to trade down from at least 1 of their 1st round picks (especially if the Carolina pick is top 10) to recoup the lost pick.

Also, the Bears are loaded with money. They have the money if Young is good enough to sign long-term, and as 24-year old, former 2nd overall pick, if he's good, he's getting highest paid DE in the league type money. Even still, the Bears can afford to franchise tag him next year with no problem and get a 2-year trial to see if Young can live up to his potential. They gave up a 2nd for Claypool to have him for a year and a half. Granted, he was much cheaper contract wise being a 2nd round pick and NOT needing a tag after 1 year, but IMO it's a no-brainer to take that gamble on a guy that's as talented as anyone that has come into the league, at one of the premier positions in the league, and at the young age of 24.

I'm ready to build a Poles statue if he can pull off a 25-year old LB, 26 year old WR1, and a 24-year old generational level DE in 1 offseason, while also still addressing the OL in a major way.
 

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Probably an unpopular opinion here, but I 100% trade a 2024 2nd for Chase Young, if he can be had for that. I think the Bears are in a good position to make a trade like this. First of all, they have the draft picks to spare potentially. Obviously, they have the 2 1sts with their own and Carolina's. But they also potentially could get a 3rd from Ian Cunningham getting a GM job. They could give up their 2nd for Young and still potentially have 2 top 20 picks and 4 in the top 103 or so. Adding Young, along with a better season from Fields and the OL likely puts the Bears 2nd much closer to the late 40s or early 50s than the 32nd overall like they gave up for Claypool. They'd also have the flexibility to trade down from at least 1 of their 1st round picks (especially if the Carolina pick is top 10) to recoup the lost pick.

Also, the Bears are loaded with money. They have the money if Young is good enough to sign long-term, and as 24-year old, former 2nd overall pick, if he's good, he's getting highest paid DE in the league type money. Even still, the Bears can afford to franchise tag him next year with no problem and get a 2-year trial to see if Young can live up to his potential. They gave up a 2nd for Claypool to have him for a year and a half. Granted, he was much cheaper contract wise being a 2nd round pick and NOT needing a tag after 1 year, but IMO it's a no-brainer to take that gamble on a guy that's as talented as anyone that has come into the league, at one of the premier positions in the league, and at the young age of 24.

I'm ready to build a Poles statue if he can pull off a 25-year old LB, 26 year old WR1, and a 24-year old generational level DE in 1 offseason, while also still addressing the OL in a major way.
I tend to agree but would not go higher than a 3rd unless the medical staff gave me a glowing report on that knee.

Right now, I like the idea of using the top three ‘24 picks on Bowers and two edge defenders.
 

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I know Ridley was injured but he was mostly suspended.
Yeah he's been injured for a couple of years now prior to the suspension- he was playing through it.
 

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Why's that? The reports are positive and he's in shape and running around like crazy.
I haven't seen the reports that he's been running around like crazy.
 

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I tend to agree but would not go higher than a 3rd unless the medical staff gave me a glowing report on that knee.
I get it. I really do. But I'm not haggling over a 2nd vs a 3rd for a guy like Young. Guys have torn up their knees before. I'd be willing to bet on a 24-year old, near generational talent overcoming that injury and flashing that elite level talent again. Even if he doesn't fully reach his potential, I think it's worth the gamble of a draft pick, when you have the extra picks that Bears have. Even with all the Bears pick, they likely won't have a chance to draft a guy as talented as Young, unless they trade multiple of their picks to move up to grab that talent.
 

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I get it. I really do. But I'm not haggling over a 2nd vs a 3rd for a guy like Young. Guys have torn up their knees before. I'd be willing to bet on a 24-year old, near generational talent overcoming that injury and flashing that elite level talent again. Even if he doesn't fully reach his potential, I think it's worth the gamble of a draft pick, when you have the extra picks that Bears have. Even with all the Bears pick, they likely won't have a chance to draft a guy as talented as Young, unless they trade multiple of their picks to move up to grab that talent.
It certainly would not upset me. Obviously, Fields would be a fan too. I love how Poles and Flus are building a roster and culture filled with strong character guys that are long, athletic and explosive.
 

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I get it. I really do. But I'm not haggling over a 2nd vs a 3rd for a guy like Young. Guys have torn up their knees before. I'd be willing to bet on a 24-year old, near generational talent overcoming that injury and flashing that elite level talent again. Even if he doesn't fully reach his potential, I think it's worth the gamble of a draft pick, when you have the extra picks that Bears have. Even with all the Bears pick, they likely won't have a chance to draft a guy as talented as Young, unless they trade multiple of their picks to move up to grab that talent.
Looking at how deep this edge class was, young still has much more upside than anyone taken in round 2. I'd give up a 2nd for him pretty quick
 

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4th in 24, 2nd in 25?

Since the Bears have 2 4ths in 24 and 2 2nds 25?

It's nitpicking. I'd probably do a 2nd in 24.
 

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3 decent reasons. One is to put a the rookie RT next to a vet, that Jenkins couldn't give a shit which side he plays while Davis does and I'd rather have Jenkins helping on the blind side. You tend to put your best G their anyway.
Good reasons, I just hope Jenkins was cool with this and that we haven’t heard that he was pissed is a good sign.

I do however believe that all the hype about Davis has been a bit much as I don’t think he’s as good as all the shit I’ve read the past couple of months.

I hope I’m wrong.
 

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Probably an unpopular opinion here, but I 100% trade a 2024 2nd for Chase Young, if he can be had for that. I think the Bears are in a good position to make a trade like this. First of all, they have the draft picks to spare potentially. Obviously, they have the 2 1sts with their own and Carolina's. But they also potentially could get a 3rd from Ian Cunningham getting a GM job, which if they pull off this trade and win some games, it's a foregone conclusion. They could give up their 2nd for Young and still potentially have 2 top 20 picks and 4 in the top 103 or so. Adding Young, along with a better season from Fields and the OL likely puts the Bears 2nd much closer to the late 40s or early 50s than the 32nd overall like they gave up for Claypool. They'd also have the flexibility to trade down from at least 1 of their 1st round picks (especially if the Carolina pick is top 10) to recoup the lost pick.

Also, the Bears are loaded with money. They have the money if Young is good enough to sign long-term, and as 24-year old, former 2nd overall pick, if he's good, he's getting highest paid DE in the league type money. Even still, the Bears can afford to franchise tag him next year with no problem and get a 2-year trial to see if Young can live up to his potential. They gave up a 2nd for Claypool to have him for a year and a half. Granted, he was much cheaper contract wise being a 2nd round pick and NOT needing a tag after 1 year, but IMO it's a no-brainer to take that gamble on a guy that's as talented as anyone that has come into the league, at one of the premier positions in the league, and at the young age of 24.

I'm ready to build a Poles statue if he can pull off a 25-year old LB, 26 year old WR1, and a 24-year old generational level DE in 1 offseason, while also still addressing the OL in a major way.
Love the player with C.Young but have to be worried about the injury issues until he shows otherwise and if he doesn't then you have a brutal choice to make on giving him a new contract or not. Wouldn't be a good look if you not only have that choice to make but also the choice of paying Claypool if he doesn't show enough to pay him with a new contract.

I wonder if you could get them to take a 2nd in the 2025 draft when we have Carolina's 2nd as well and tell them they can have the highest 2nd between ours and Carolina's. Maybe throw them a 6th rounder in 2024 to do that.
 

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Good reasons, I just hope Jenkins was cool with this and that we haven’t heard that he was pissed is a good sign.

I do however believe that all the hype about Davis has been a bit much as I don’t think he’s as good as all the shit I’ve read the past couple of months.

I hope I’m wrong.

What’s weird is Jenkins is the better RG, Davis said he’d play anywhere they want him to, and neither player has played LG before. So it’s yet another change for Jenkins. In the end, I trust the staff picking the best combination
 

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Good reasons, I just hope Jenkins was cool with this and that we haven’t heard that he was pissed is a good sign.

I do however believe that all the hype about Davis has been a bit much as I don’t think he’s as good as all the shit I’ve read the past couple of months.

I hope I’m wrong.
I think he’s pretty good.


“Tennessee Titans right guard Nate Davis is among the team’s biggest priorities during the 2023 offseason as he prepares to hit free agency.

If Davis does hit the open market, Pro Football Focus’ Gordon McGuinness believes Davis is one of, if not the most underrated players available at the position. Here’s why:

Nate Davis had his best season as a pass blocker, producing a 66.8 PFF grade in that facet and allowing just 14 total pressures over 385 pass-blocking snaps in 2022. While he’s not going to be a difference-maker on the offensive line, he could help a team avoid a weak link in the group. A better run blocker than a pass blocker, he has played 3,709 snaps and is just 26 years old as he hits free agency.”

 

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I was a fan of Davis out of Charlotte, I followed him a bit with TEN, and mocked him to the Bears this offseason.

He is a great zone blocker, probably top 5 or so in the league for a G, and he got better at pass blocking every year. Still lots of room for improvement there, his balance and anchor are not the best, but he is really a great run blocker imo.
 

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So all this team could of used at pick #32 was a WR? We had holes everywhere that we could of used that pick on to fill up.
Just to argue, I guess. Poles wanted a big WR that could fight for balls and block that we also needed and got one. Unless there's a better one drafted later, he's justified in the move regardless of whatever else was available and whether you agree or not. Only 1 edge player went before Mingo in 2 and so would have Claypool in this weak top WR draft. Bigger, faster, stronger, higher graded.

The trade should only be judged on whether Claypool is resigned.
 

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Love the player with C.Young but have to be worried about the injury issues until he shows otherwise and if he doesn't then you have a brutal choice to make on giving him a new contract or not. Wouldn't be a good look if you not only have that choice to make but also the choice of paying Claypool if he doesn't show enough to pay him with a new contract.

I wonder if you could get them to take a 2nd in the 2025 draft when we have Carolina's 2nd as well and tell them they can have the highest 2nd between ours and Carolina's. Maybe throw them a 6th rounder in 2024 to do that.
The problem is if you wait until he proves he's healthy, you're never getting him. Maybe Washington lets him walk and you can sign him in free agency next year, but we thought they'd let Payne walk too.

The Claypool thing isn't really relevant. If Claypool doesn't show enough, you don't sign him. You have DJ Moore and just drafted a WR, along with the option to re-sign Mooney. If Young doesn't show enough, you don't really have another DE to carry the weight on the DL. And you get to see how he's recovering in person for a year. Worst case scenario, you don't re-sign him and draft a guy you hope is as good of a talent as he is. But I'd probably look at it as a 2-to-3 year thing either way. I'm tagging him if he's halfway decent. I'm signing him long-term if he's living up to his potential. And I offer him a Jordan Love like 2-year contract if I think he can still recover. Reports are pretty good coming out of Washington so far, but it could be posturing to boost his trade value.
 

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I can’t believe that they brought Davis in and then asked Jenkins to move to another position as if Davis is better than him, he’s not!

Davis is pretty weak in pass pro.

Davis has more time as a RG and Jenkins was already moving between left and right when he was at tackle. It also makes more sense as it balances the line from the perspective that you have a really good mover in Jones paired with a power guy in Jenkins on the left side while having a really good mover in Davis paired with more of a power guy in Wright. It also ensures Wright is paired with a more experienced guy next to him.
 

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