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I don't know anything about the blame game and what everyone over Poles would say or think about him behind closed doors because i'll never know but part of his job is the draft and getting the moves right. Every GM takes the blame for missing on draft picks especially early ones, like Ryan Pace, so Poles should be held to the same.
I mean, yeah I get that. But what you say only applies to moves actually made. You can't fire a GM because of who he could've drafted. That's like firing every GM because they didn't pick Brock Purdy. Pace didn't get fired because he didn't pick Mahomes. He got fired because he did pick Mitch. Nobody's losing their job over hypotheticals, especially hypotheticals that are huge risks like getting rid of well like QB for an unproven QB.
 

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I mean, yeah I get that. But what you say only applies to moves actually made. You can't fire a GM because of who he could've drafted. That's like firing every GM because they didn't pick Brock Purdy. Pace didn't get fired because he didn't pick Mahomes. He got fired because he did pick Mitch. Nobody's losing their job over hypotheticals, especially hypotheticals that are huge risks like getting rid of well like QB for an unproven QB.
I don't think Poles would get fired for not picking to go with one of these QB's.

I don't even think he's going to trade Fields, i'm just saying there's a lot that makes sense in doing it.
 

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Avila is interesting. He's a really good player, functionally strong, did some decent stuff against Jalen Carter in the national championship game. He weighed in at 332 at the senior bowl, which is bigger than what the Bears looked for on their OL last year. That being said, he is a little "puffy" and certainly looks like he could lose 10-15lbs and get to better shape at 320 or so. His arm length is OK, his mobility isn't elite, but it'll be interesting to see if he shows up at the combine weighing less. Getsy did coach him in Mobile, so if he does show up lighter, I think that may mean the Bears may have asked him to do so. Granted, it's something he may do anyway to try to boost his draft stock and versatility by showing good athletic numbers.
 

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No all of it isn't true. The reality is the Giants WRs graded out better than the Bears WRs this year. In fact, the Bears WRs graded out the worst in the NFL per PFF. The reality also is Fields had more TDs in less attempts than Jones and a higher yards per attempt. The difference is he didn't throw as much as Jones.
Lmao the worst on the NFL. Yikes. Pretty sure I saw many people on here saying fields needs to hit those NFL OPEN WR’s, and to throw with anticipation.

Pretty sure if we go back into those game threads for at least half the season you were a YUGE proponent of this narrative.
 
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i think its pretty much a done deal that the new stadium will have some sort of enclosure...the question will be if its a retractable like at&t and benz stadium or fully enclosed like u.s bank stadium

"During the Q & A session at the end of the meeting, Bears president/CEO Ted Phillips cited the costs and maintenance of a retractable roof when saying that the team is planning to have a permanent structure in place.

“We’re not anticipating a retractable dome,” Phillips said. “The costs are prohibitive. The return (on investment) isn’t there.”

Why Bears new stadium project will have enclosed roof | BY ALEX SHAPIRO AND JAMES NEVEAU
 

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Because he's not only talking about how good or bad Fields can become but also talking about the situation the Bears are in right now. They're in a total rebuild which will take at least, at least, two years to get this team relevant which is when Fields will be ready for a new contract that can be anywhere in the $35 to $45 mil per year range. So he's saying it might be the smarter route to just go draft a new QB so you have him on a rookie contract and will give you the cap space to give that new QB the weapons he needs around him. No matter how much any of us believe in Fields it still makes sense to go that route. Not saying we should go that route but it absolutely makes sense and should be looked at seriously by Poles and i think it will be or already has been.

The team can be relevant this year if all goes well. So your timing is off.
 
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Lmao the worst on the NFL. Yikes. Pretty sure I saw many people on here saying fields needs to hit those NFL OPEN WR’s, and to throw with anticipation.

Pretty sure if we go back into those game threads for at least half the season you were a YUGE proponent of this narrative.

Both things can be true. The WRs sucked. Fields still missed them when they where NFL open particularly early in the season. I clearly explained this when I did my All 22 reviews from early in the season when Fields was particularly bad.

Meatballs think only one thing can be true. The reality is the WRs sucked, Fields held the ball too long and the OL was inadequate at times. They all took turns fucking up at various times throughout season and within games.

Life is complex. I know that may be a shock to some.
 
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Both things can be true. The WRs sucked. Fields still missed them when they where NFL open particularly early in the season.

Meatballs think only one thing can be true. The reality is the WRs sucked, Fields held the ball too long and the OL was inadequate at times. They all took turns fucking up at various times throughout season and within games.

Life is complex. I know that may be a shock to some.
Ahhhhh so early in the season they were ‘NFL open’ but later in the season they were ‘worst in NFL open’ got it.
 

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Ahhhhh so early in the season they were ‘NFL open’ but later in the season they were ‘worst in NFL open’ got it.

Relative to the rest of the league they are the worst. That doesnt change the fact that on a given play within a given game they could be NFL open.

Just like Fields had one of the worst passing grades. That doesnt change the fact that on a given play within a given game he could have thrown a dime.

Being the worst doesnt mean they never got open. SMH! It means they dont get open as often as others. Stop being dense.
 

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Relative to the rest of the league they are the worst. That doesnt change the fact that on a given play within a given game they could be NFL open.

Just like Fields had one of the worst passing grades. That doesnt change the fact that on a given play within a given game he could have thrown a dime.

Being the worst doesnt mean they never got open. SMH! It means they dont get open as often as others. Stop being dense.
Yeah sure like the d line might be worst in the NFL, doesn’t mean they were bad or didn’t have good plays, just did their job worse than every other team at the same position ??? makes sense
 

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Yeah sure like the d line might be worst in the NFL, doesn’t mean they were bad or didn’t have good plays, just did their job worse than every other team at the same position ??? makes sense

You are not making any sense. The WRs were bad. Doesnt change the fact that so was Fields passing at times hence why he had a poor passing grade independent of the WRs.
 

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Avila is interesting. He's a really good player, functionally strong, did some decent stuff against Jalen Carter in the national championship game. He weighed in at 332 at the senior bowl, which is bigger than what the Bears looked for on their OL last year. That being said, he is a little "puffy" and certainly looks like he could lose 10-15lbs and get to better shape at 320 or so. His arm length is OK, his mobility isn't elite, but it'll be interesting to see if he shows up at the combine weighing less. Getsy did coach him in Mobile, so if he does show up lighter, I think that may mean the Bears may have asked him to do so. Granted, it's something he may do anyway to try to boost his draft stock and versatility by showing good athletic numbers.
I’ll take Mauch
 

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I’ll take Mauch
Avila is more of a C. He’s a solid player who won’t get blown back.

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This concerns me:

Avila doesn’t have the ideal range, length or functional agility to work in outside zone concepts, though he’s fine in shorter areas and on pulls and traps.

So, though Mauch seems to be the better athlete, Avila may be the better C; however, like Darnel Wright and some other draft OL crushes dudes here have, Avila may lack the foot speed to play in this O.
 

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Avila is more of a C. He’s a solid player who won’t get blown back.

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This concerns me:

Avila doesn’t have the ideal range, length or functional agility to work in outside zone concepts, though he’s fine in shorter areas and on pulls and traps.

So, though Mauch seems to be the better athlete, Avila may be the better C; however, like Darnel Wright and some other draft OL crushes dudes here have, Avila may lack the foot speed to play in this O.
consider me as one with a fan crush on Mauch and Wright.

Though I will want to see their shuttle runs at the combine
 

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