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[BaBaBlacksheep]

Old and pre-injured. Wilson sounds perfect. ?

 

[94SupraTT]

I don't think it is nonsense at all. He is undersized as a 4-3 DE. That is simply reality. DEs his size typically do struggle against the run as he is closer in size to Yannick who clearly struggles against the run due to his size. Having said that, I think Anderson can still play in a 4-3 as a DE but he is clearly not the ideal fit. You would generally want a guy in the 265-280 range in a Cover 2 4-3 Defense.

Eberflus runs more Cover 3 than he does Cover 2. He also likes to zone match. The Bears are not a "Cover 2" team. They run it, as does every defense in the NFL. The same applies regarding being that we still will be running a 4-3 base. You could argue that we are a 4-2-5 team (I think 4-3 nickel is a misnomer in today's NFL). Teams line up in 4-2-5 as a base and nickel corners are no longer situational, they are the base D. In 2021, 3 teams lined up in base more than 50% of the time, the Steelers, the Dolphins, and Chiefs everyone else lined up in nickel more. Buffalo for example lined up 4-2-5 92% of the time. Indy lined up 4-2-5 78% of the time. I'd argue that Eberflus would prefer a smaller DE so he can drop him into coverage and disguise things more without the DE being a HUGE liability in coverage. Furthermore, the highest anyone lined up in a "base" defense was 38% in 2021.

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[BaBaBlacksheep]

Here is an excellent Tyree Wilson breakdown from Swifty.

This is just some dude talking. Like he can’t even show some plays and break em down?

 

[rawdawg]

Hmm not sure I would agree there. He is a little bigger than Myles Garrett and a little smaller than JJ Watt. Peppers also had a similar build when he played for us. He is a LE that can move inside and play some 3T.

It's more of a body type than size thing. But he doesn't have the first step quickness or bend of those guys. Peppers, Garrett and Watt are as big of freaks as athletes as the world has ever seen. I just don't see Wilson as that type, though it remains to be seen at the combine. I wouldn't hate the pick, just would be weary of taking him top 5, and no chance I take him over Anderson, fit be damned.

 

[remydat]

Eberflus runs more Cover 3 than he does Cover 2. He also likes to zone match. The Bears are not a "Cover 2" team. They run it, as does every defense in the NFL. The same applies regarding being that we still will be running a 4-3 base. You could argue that we are a 4-2-5 team (I think 4-3 nickel is a misnomer in today's NFL). Teams line up in 4-2-5 as a base and nickel corners are no longer situational, they are the base D. In 2021, 3 teams lined up in base more than 50% of the time, the Steelers, the Dolphins, and Chiefs everyone else lined up in nickel more. Buffalo for example lined up 4-2-5 92% of the time. Indy lined up 4-2-5 78% of the time. I'd argue that Eberflus would prefer a smaller DE so he can drop him into coverage and disguise things more without the DE being a HUGE liability in coverage. Furthermore, the highest anyone lined up in a "base" defense was 38% in 2021.

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If you listen to Flus, he is describing a Cover 2. No Cover 2 team plays Cover 2 all the time or even a majority of the time but that is his background as he trained under Marinelli.

In any event, the Bears aren't dropping DEs in coverage as they rarely blitz so have to get pressure with the 4 DL. You drop DEs in coverage more in a 3-4. Flus blitzed like 18% of the time last year and that was with the worst pass rush in the NFL.

It is also the case that if you are playing nickel or dime 80% of the time like the Bears your DEs better hold up against the run because you have one less LB and an extra DB out there. Anderson at RE would have the NB covering the slot so can't have a weak run defender at RE who then is being backed up by a smaller DB. Teams would just punish you by running off the RE all game.

Now again, it is entirely possible Anderson ends up being stout against the run but concerns over his size is legit as that is really the only knock on him. He is more of a 3-4 LB that can play 4-3 end.

 

[remydat]

It's more of a body type than size thing. But he doesn't have the first step quickness or bend of those guys. Peppers, Garrett and Watt are as big of freaks as athletes as the world has ever seen. I just don't see Wilson as that type, though it remains to be seen at the combine. I wouldn't hate the pick, just would be weary of taking him top 5, and no chance I take him over Anderson, fit be damned.

I would have to see his combine numbers before I conclude on his first step quickness.

 

[TezMaKai]

This is just some dude talking. Like he can’t even show some plays and break em down?

Was he wrong in his assessment?

 

[dentfan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1628768117710094338

This is a textbook case of the groupthink idiocy running drafts right now. He trades back twice to end up with a too short arms, slow-footed, potential G. Are you fucking kidding me? And people are applauding this shit? Get the **** out of here. The worst part is that motherfuckers are going go on about "oh the value". **** that. This was fucking wasted pick. I fucking can't.

 

[TezMaKai]

Old and pre-injured. Wilson sounds perfect. ?

He’s 22. How is this old?

 

[HeHateMe]

This is a textbook case of the groupthink idiocy running drafts right now. He trades back twice to end up with a too short arms, slow-footed, potential G. Are you fucking kidding me? And people are applauding this shit? Get the **** out of here. The worst part is that motherfuckers are going go on about "oh the value". **** that. This was fucking wasted pick. I fucking can't.

These beat writers should honestly look at a few of our mocks.

 

[dentfan]

You said it - He can play in a 4-3. Whether he’s an “ideal” fit is irrelevant. He can be a game wrecker there. Hes very good against the run at Bama, and while the competition will be bigger in the NFL, he’s not that much difference in size than Mack during his earlier years who was awesome playing 4-3 end. I’d guess Anderson can prob pack on another 10 lbs as well.

If we draft him, I hope you prove me wrong. I see him as an undersized OLB for a 3-4.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

He’s 22. How is this old?

23 in May. Coming off a broken bone in his foot he had surgery on.

I’m sure he’ll get people all hot and bothered in the underwear olympics coming up.

 

[dentfan]

These beat writers should honestly look at a few of our mocks.

Apart from the crazy trade downs, half of your shit is better than this double trade down turd.

Drafting Minimeski. Get the **** out of here...

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Was he wrong in his assessment?

Turned it off after he couldn’t even recite the correct number of sacks

 

[rawdawg]

Yeah I guess I am saying I am not convinced he can be a game wrecker in a 4-3. Mack is incredibly strong for his size and has always had a good mix of power and speed. Not sure I view Anderson in the same vein. He is more of a speed rusher at the NFL level. It is not enough for me to not draft him if he is there but I think the concerns about his size are legit.

Anderson is interesting, because he's the rare college prospect that is coming to the league with pretty polished hands. He's very savvy. He uses a bunch of different pass rush moves and has plenty of counters. But he's kind of a jack of all trades, master of none type. He doesn't have Parsons level speed. He doesn't have Mack's strength. He doesn't have Von Miller's bend. But I think he's a high level pass rusher that does everything well enough to have double digit sack upside.

 

[Enasic]

Yeah I guess I am saying I am not convinced he can be a game wrecker in a 4-3. Mack is incredibly strong for his size and has always had a good mix of power and speed. Not sure I view Anderson in the same vein. He is more of a speed rusher at the NFL level. It is not enough for me to not draft him if he is there but I think the concerns about his size are legit.

Anderson is very strong for his size as well, like Mack. It’s ok to have concerns…there should be concerns for every single prospect drafted….but you seem to agree that he can play 4-3 end and that you would still draft him despite your concerns so yeah….

 

[bamainatlanta]

Give me Ngakoue over Key.

He's averaged about 8 sacks per season over his career. Key doesn't have one season with 8 sacks.

Yes but why don’t teams want Yannick long term though?

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Yes but why don’t teams want Yannick long term though?

Shit run defender supposedly.

 

[remydat]

Anderson is interesting, because he's the rare college prospect that is coming to the league with pretty polished hands. He's very savvy. He uses a bunch of different pass rush moves and has plenty of counters. But he's kind of a jack of all trades, master of none type. He doesn't have Parsons level speed. He doesn't have Mack's strength. He doesn't have Von Miller's bend. But I think he's a high level pass rusher that does everything well enough to have double digit sack upside.

Agreed. The concern with Anderson is really not his pass rush. It is whether he can hold up at DE in a 4-3 in the run game and whether doing so will limit his effectiveness pass rush wise.

 

[remydat]

Yes but why don’t teams want Yannick long term though?

Shit run defender supposedly.

46.7, 28.6 and 43.7 run defense grades the past 3 years. Never had a run D grade in the 60s. Just really bad on run D.