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Now we're talking. I'll take him over Key for sure and he's still only like 27-28.
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Hmm….
Key is above average against the run and pass and above average player overall
Tomlinson falls into the exact same boat
Jones isn’t great against the run but is a very good pass rusher
Anderson might be the best defensive player in the draft.
In what world is that not even an average DL?
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In a world where you expect the Bears sign Payne, Hargrave, and trade for Chase Young.
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This would be a great Bears draft if there were no trades. Don't think a couple of guys make it to where they have us getting them though.
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The argument against Chicago Bears drafting QB for the rookie salary benefit
The debate between trading Justin Fields and keeping Justin Fields has been exhaustive. One argument that you have heard plenty of times by now is that adding a
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Arden Key has never been more than a rotational player. Certianly he has grown into a very nice rotational player, but neither in San Francisco nor Jacksonville has he played more than half the snaps in a season. He's also undersized and not a great scheme fit. There is probably a place for him on the Bears roster, but not at the cost he will incur. I would rather just hope Trevis Gipson or Dominique Robinson develop into being a good rotational edge rusher than spend the fifty million it will cost to have Arden Key.
At the end of the day he's not a starter quality player and you are signing him with the hope that will be effective over more snaps. None of his coaches since his first year in Oakland have believed this to be the case, its not impossible but its a bad bet.
Will Anderson Jr. is a nice prospect. I am not particularly enthused by him, but I can see why some people would be. Oddly enough I think one of his more likely pro comparisons is Arden Key. I don't think he's Von Miller.
I don't like the idea of signing more than one defensive tackle this offseason. Its a non-premium position and neither Dalvin Tomlinson nor Dre'mont Jones make elite impacts on games. I would be fine with one or the other.
The cost of assembling this is a big chunk of the Bears salary cap and the first overall pick. Its not an elite group, and if Key fails to take the next step, or you see regression out of Tomlinson or Jones, or Anderson Jr. fails to live up to the expectations of his draft position its probably at best an average unit. Will everything go right? Maybe, but more likely you'll get a mixed bag of good and bad.
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Chicago Bears May Finally Have Caught A Break On WR Market
The Chicago Bears need some good luck to fortify their wide receiver position. Tennessee may have obliged on that front.
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None of those guys are going to break the bank. The bears DL was terrible and they need to spend there. I get the skepticism on Key being a full time player. He’s still an upgrade over Gipson and Robinson by a lot.
Jones and Tomlinson are both good players too in huge areas of need. Probably a good idea to upgrade there. Jones still has a lot of upside too and Tomlinson is very good against the run and provides some pass rush for a NT.
Anderson is a consensus top 5 pick. That DL is infinitely better than last season, does not break the bank, and has multiple ascending players. Again, it is easily an average DL at worst and IMO, a very good one
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thanksChicago Bears May Finally Have Caught A Break On WR Market
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I prefer him as well but he is terrible against run. You sign him and he is either a pass rush specialist only or you probably dont want to go with Anderson as both are best suited to playing RE given Anderson is undersized.
So for me if I am going after Ngakoue I am probably targeting 3T, Murphy or Wilson ie a bigger DE that can hold up in the run game at LE.
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Yeah this simply isnt true particularly in this D where a 3T is mission critical to success and when several DTs are now making over 17m a year.
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Yeah you just skipped the next sentence where I write that I'm fine with signing one or the other. It's the overall spending spree with buying two free agent defensive tackles, not trading down from first overall and signing Arden Key that I take issue with.
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Individually they don't break the bank but culmulatively this plan is handing out tens of millions of guaranteed money that will loom for at least the next two off-seasons. Also it is giving up on the idea of trading down entirely, meaning the Bears have only one first round pick next year and don't pick against in this year's draft until fifty-seventh.
It just isn't wise. Realistically the defensive line is going to have to partially rely on some combination of day two or day three draft picks and existing players on the roster stepping up in order to see improvement.
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I don't think Ngakoue is the type of player that Eberflus will want, and I agree. He's bad against run, and when I've watched him less impactful against the pass than his numbers indicate. I think there's a reason he's been on 5 teams in 4 years, no multiyear deal in there.
I think they will prioritize bigger players who are better against the run at DE.
I like Dremont Jones's disruptive ability, but he just gets dominated on too many plays to be worth $14m+ per year.
Key is interesting and I'd take him on a prove it deal, but nothing close to eight figures or multiple years.
I like Zach Allen a lot, and he's not getting much attention at all around here. Versatile, can play the run and get after the QB.
DeMarcus Walker is a sneaky signing for DL too.
I think they will prioritize bigger players who are better against the run at DE.
I like Dremont Jones's disruptive ability, but he just gets dominated on too many plays to be worth $14m+ per year.
Key is interesting and I'd take him on a prove it deal, but nothing close to eight figures or multiple years.
I like Zach Allen a lot, and he's not getting much attention at all around here. Versatile, can play the run and get after the QB.
DeMarcus Walker is a sneaky signing for DL too.
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Like this but the Bears still need a run stuffing nose tackle, perhaps A'Shawn Robinson.
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This is a year where you invest in the lines, both offensive and defensive knowing you can't fix everything this year.
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