Are you still this confused that the entire time I’ve been talking about FAT vs hand times? Are you faking it or just this dense? I linked you to the zybek study literally citing the difference and you go back to arguing about something else. I think you have a complex.
And Shaheen taken in the 2nd. If I remember right, he was mostly a blocking TE in college as they ran a lot si he didn't have the stats or tape
You know Poles is all over this. He’ll be drafting the highest RAS guys for sure
@Hawkeye. thoughts? How did GK slip into the 5th round??
Idk. I told CCS to draft George kittle but nobody listened. Not my fault really
I tried
So you don't think he'll run one on his pro day?
Even assuming that you're right and I don't since pro days are better controlled than in the past, if you know that, don't you think that GMs do? Or can know if it was a fast or slow track he runs on? This isn't mock draft data. It's a real NFL draft and your assuming a casual fan knows more about the process and how to interpret an alternate 40 time than a GM or the guys timing him. Time will be very close to representative but even if it weren't, the guys drafting him will know how fast he is.
That's a decade old. Hand held will always lose a bit of time but it won't affect much. If you look at the 2021 draft (no combine) where a there were a bunch of multiple timings on players, both electronic and hand held, the difference seems a hair less than a 0.1 sec. and GMs are fully aware of it.From Zybeks study:
Hand Time v. FAT Time Data
Analysis:
As detailed in the previous section, most variables were minimized or eliminated. The timer that measured the difference in the Hand time to the FAT time was started when the athlete lifted their hand and stopped when the coach at the 40 yard line depressed the start button on the stop watch. (These times were recorded for all athletes both 40 yard runs.)
As illustrated in Figure 3, the measured differences between the hand held and the FAT timer ranged from 0.10 seconds to 0.25 seconds. The time differences were evenly distributed between 0.10 and 0.25 seconds, with the average being 0.175 seconds.
Hand-timed versus Electronic-timed 40 Yard Dash | Zybek Sports
www.zybeksports.com
This is just from their study, but in my experience it’s typically 0.24. Don’t have any studies to promote this but 10 years of experience.
Cause Pace had Sheheen conviction boner. Dude couldn’t even turn around to catch the ball without falling over..
and breaking something.
