**OFFICAIL** Bears 2024 Regular Season News & Schleisse - FTO Preferred - No ALTS! Derailing Is Discouraged!

[dentfan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1632199345482129410

It would have to take a shit ton of draft picks and a player to let Carolina move on in. Their next year’s pick is probably going to be in the 20’s since they’re most likely making the playoffs and win their division.

We are taking Bijan in the first.

**** Aaron Rogers.

 

[dentfan]

THANK YOU! This is what I've been saying. You get a Fields clone at backup, he's going to just be worse at running the stuff that makes Fields good. You get a different QB and you can tailor the playcalling to a different type of QB and make it harder for opponent scouting.

Can get you a couple wins in the short term. Long term, you're screwed if you're QB goes down anyway, so I'd rather be different instead of a worse version of the same.

Wrong.

Dead fucking wrong.

The purpose of a backup is to step in when the starter gets injured, usually right smack dab in the middle of a game, possibly a drive.

An OC spends all week on a game plan and practices certain plays. This is the NFL, so practice time is at a premium.

Having to institute plays and a system that wasn’t practiced or planned is a wrench in an already fucked up situation.

Now, in a perfect world where one can spend the week planning with a backup, like we did this past season, then maybe having a different type of QB isn’t as bad, but, in general, you want the back up to be able to run the shit you’ve been working on.

 

[dentfan]

So the Bears spend thirty-second overall and the remnants of first overall on two wide receivers? Yeah, no. Don't really get the impression Ryan Poles is going to just let the offensive line and defense get even worse. Patchwork free agents in an historically weak free agent class and leftovers in the second round are not the way to build those units.

I’m not sure which draft you’re looking at if you think we can build an o line with this draft class!!! You must be out your god damned mind. Fucking kidding me with this shit.

You say DL, sure, in the second and third. It’s a sick ass wealth of them. OL, please, there are maybe three dudes that are legit first round talents. The rest that go in the first are going to get reached and are second round talents. I keep seeing dudes saying shit like we need to draft a shit ton of OL. Right, because throwing rookies on the line is the answer.



Now, I absolutely agree wit’chu on the shut about drafting a WR high in the first. No way. Trade back deep into the first, like 12 or something, maybe.

 

[rawdawg]

Wrong.

Dead fucking wrong.

The purpose of a backup is to step in when the starter gets injured, usually right smack dab in the middle of a game, possibly a drive.

An OC spends all week on a game plan and practices certain plays. This is the NFL, so practice time is at a premium.

Having to institute plays and a system that wasn’t practiced or planned is a wrench in an already fucked up situation.

Now, in a perfect world where one can spend the week planning with a backup, like we did this past season, then maybe having a different type of QB isn’t as bad, but, in general, you want the back up to be able to run the shit you’ve been working on.

Fields didn't go out mid game this year. And when he did in 2021, Andy Dalton, a completely different QB, almost won the game with 2 TDs til the defense blew it. So that's an overrated 1 off scenario anyway.

And the plays they ralun all week don't matter because the backup isn't running them anyway.

And don't get it twisted, the playbook is the playbook. They may run a little bit different stuff, but the core plays are the core plays. The difference is Fields is likely to have the mobility to buy time on plays and the arm that the backup won't have.

 

[dentfan]

Fields didn't go out mid game this year. And when he did in 2021, Andy Dalton, a completely different QB, almost won the game with 2 TDs til the defense blew it. So that's an overrated 1 off scenario anyway.

And the plays they ralun all week don't matter because the backup isn't running them anyway.

And don't get it twisted, the playbook is the playbook. They may run a little bit different stuff, but the core plays are the core plays. The difference is Fields is likely to have the mobility to buy time on plays and the arm that the backup won't have.

Again, backups are to come in in mid game. Now, I can see how it could be seen as an advantage that now the D has to prepare for a new O. The issue is the O you’re running now has to change and throw everything they’ve practiced out. A good team does what Baltimore or SF (kinda sorta did outside of Lance): they have a QB that can run their system and has a certain skill set they’re looking for.

I have a fellow Bears fan at work and have had some opportunities to pick his brain. He pointed out that we should probably bring in Baker Mayfield. I was a bit taken aback but then was like right on when I saw what he was thinking.

 

[bears51/40]

He has not

hes played exclusively the X outside position

mooney and Claypool have both played some slot, though. I would imagine they could split time there and outside and be fine

Thanks............thought I saw him in the slot early in the season.

 

[rawdawg]

Again, backups are to come in in mid game. Now, I can see how it could be seen as an advantage that now the D has to prepare for a new O. The issue is the O you’re running now has to change and throw everything they’ve practiced out. A good team does what Baltimore or SF (kinda sorta did outside of Lance): they have a QB that can run their system and has a certain skill set their looking for.

I have a fellow Bears fan at work and have had some opportunities to pick his brain. He pointed out that we should probably bring in Baker Mayfield. I was a bit taken aback but then was like right on when I saw what he was thinking.

Everyone thinks Baltimore is a good example, but Lamars backup is 3-7 as a starter. Why? Because he's not as good as Lamar, which is the nature of a backup....not good as the starter.

And you have to change the offense either way. Your backup isn't going to run for 100 yards every week like Fields did. He's not going to escape 5-6 sacks a week. What you can do is have a backup that runs the same offense but gets the ball out quicker.

 

[dentfan]

Everyone thinks Baltimore is a good example, but Lamars backup is 3-7 as a starter. Why? Because he's not as good as Lamar, which is the nature of a backup....not good as the starter.

And you have to change the offense either way. Your backup isn't going to run for 100 yards every week like Fields did. He's not going to escape 5-6 sacks a week. What you can do is have a backup that runs the same offense but gets the ball out quicker.

I mean, it should go without saying that the back up isn’t as good as the starter. So, to speak to your point about Baltimore is that the kid won 3 games. That’s pretty sweet. Would LJ have lost those 7 games, or was it on the backup? I’m not sure. I’d take 3 wins.

So, a backup should have the same skill set to compliment the starter. Try not to Barf, but Carson Wentz is cheap.



(See what I did there? Yup. It’s a pun.)

 

[bears51/40]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1632091258779828224

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1632090173851971584

Just looking at 40's if you are good with Addison's 4.49 what about Jon Mingo's 4.46 40 at 220 pounds.

 

[Dejo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1632223948342722561

 

[Moses Moreno]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1632223948342722561

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1632226415033868288

They're not going to draft Stroud because he shares an agent with Watson, makes sense.

 

[Lurk McGurk]

The problem the Bears may have is if these 4 QBs end up grouped close together, a team like the Texans and Colts may be fine standing pat. So may be left to trade further down to a team that otherwise wont be guaranteed a QB.

Hence why best bet may be letting Houston get 1 and 2 and pay a ransom of 12 and their first rounders next year for the right to draft top QB and top overall player in Anderson.

That's probably the best path if possible. Gives you a shot at QB in '24 if you decide it's necessary after this season, and a shot at Marvin Harrison Jr. if you are staying with Fields in '24. Options are a good thing.
If that doesn't happen, hopefully the Texans have a significant preference and they flip picks with the Bears. Once that happens, the demand is probably high to move up to #2 because there's a good chance that 3 QB's are gone by pick #4, and you might as well get your first choice of the remaining QB's. It feels like there could be a feeding frenzy for the two that remain from Young/Stroud/Richardson. Maybe the Colts would gamble on their guy being there at #4, but the good news is these QB's are so different in respect to measurables, attributes and skills, that it seems like they would prefer one over the other.
With Richardson on this meteoric rise, the chance that QB's go 1-2-3 are increasing.

 

[Dejo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1632198205692583938

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Honest question: Are you mentally deficient? He is 6'4" tall, 244 lbs, plays QB, and is likely a 99th percentile future NFL athlete. Who plays QB. There are likely at least 3 GMs who are currently rubbing one out to his highlights.

He also had a 53% completion percentage last year…. In college ?

 

[Lurk McGurk]

..what I see happening right now (at the combine, at least) is that these QBs are all showing out, but not with the exact same traits. Which is good because it means that the QB needy teams are going to want a specific guy that has the traits they want for THEIR offense as they envision it. And in turn the longer time goes by the more they'll get antsy as far as being in the best position to grab "their guy"

That's a super critical component to this I think. I would imagine teams will have a preference.

 

[Canth]

He also had a 53% completion percentage last year…. In college ?

Wow, yeah that would be a big concern. It's rare for completion percentage to go up from college in the NFL.

 

[dentfan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1632223948342722561

Change that to Bijan, and you’ve got a great pick!

Zay Flowers at 9th overall. Fucking shoot me, and I like my man Brett, but come the **** on now!

And hell no that early on hockey master flex never started in college **** no.

 

[dentfan]

That's probably the best path if possible. Gives you a shot at QB in '24 if you decide it's necessary after this season, and a shot at Marvin Harrison Jr. if you are staying with Fields in '24. Options are a good thing.
If that doesn't happen, hopefully the Texans have a significant preference and they flip picks with the Bears. Once that happens, the demand is probably high to move up to #2 because there's a good chance that 3 QB's are gone by pick #4, and you might as well get your first choice of the remaining QB's. It feels like there could be a feeding frenzy for the two that remain from Young/Stroud/Richardson. Maybe the Colts would gamble on their guy being there at #4, but the good news is these QB's are so different in respect to measurables, attributes and skills, that it seems like they would prefer one over the other.
With Richardson on this meteoric rise, the chance that QB's go 1-2-3 are increasing.

I agree.

On a side note, I’m calling it now, Richardson goes #1, and it goes 1-4 with the Colts getting Levis and Arizona trading back, way back, to get a haul, maybe Tampa or even NO.

Richardson
Young
Stroud
Levis

With Carter to Seattle because they don’t give a ****. They would have taken Anderson, a QB, or even Bujan, but Carol wants to win and can’t pass up that level D talent. Detroit scoops up Anderson and da Raiders draft the kid from Stanford. Seattle grabs Hooker in the second on a trade up.

 

[Rob219_CBMB]

OT; Bones jones won vs Gane in... 2minutes. UFC is bogus for this.

 

[RiDLer80]

The play style thing never made sense to me. I prefer a QB that can offer Fields a different perspective as they are different QBs. It also makes it tougher for D to prepare if the backup is not a carbon copy of Fields.

I agree with Fields needing a different perspective, possibly via a veteran QB. However, that could/should also come from the QB coach.

I disagree about it being tougher on defenses if the backup QB isn't a carbon copy of Fields. Who do you think defenses would rather prepare for, a QB like Peterman/Semien who they know are no threat to run and will be in the pocket, or a mobile QB like DTR/Malik Cunningham who are threats in the run game via the read option, bootlegs and scrambles on broken plays?