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The thing is you’re basing that evaluation off last season. What does he look like after this off season of weight training, conditioning and improved nutrition (hopefully)?

Legit, the main reason he sucked at times was because dudes bull rushed him. That is fixable, bad feet are not.
 

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So you want to sign an overrated tackle to the largest contract in team history so he can challenge braxton jones?

Makes sense.
I personally am okay keeping Jones. I wouldn't sign a LT.
 

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Right. We don't need elite players at these positions. We may get SOME but we need upgrades. Upgrades at RT/LG for sure, and probably C, too. We need upgrades across the entire DL. So two DT and two DE, and probably some LB help.

And you also need to allow your homegrown talent the opportunity to succeed.

It's the same idea of the goobers who want to upgrade from Kmet. Kmet isnt a superstar, but he played solid last year. You can't just ditch developing young talent cause we finally have money.
 

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Adams is 4.5 yrs older than Moore. Doubt Poles was looking for an aging soon to be declining WR whose salary becomes $35M in 2 seasons in the trade deal
Well yeah, but that wasn't the point of my comment.
He would be a huge downgrade in position of need, pass blocking and catching RB.
Yes, which is basically what I said.
 

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Because both are better than what the Bears had last season. That's straight facts.

Doesn't make them great, or even the long term solution.

But I would support signing both, and then if Braxton can legitimately beat out Brown, then at least that inspires more confidence. Not a single player on this line should have their job just handed to them.
I’m sorry but no GM would allow their $25 million investment lose their starting job in the offseason.
 

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And you also need to allow your homegrown talent the opportunity to succeed.

It's the same idea of the goobers who want to upgrade from Kmet. Kmet isnt a superstar, but he played solid last year. You can't just ditch developing young talent cause we finally have money.
For sure. And the development of our rookies/young players has been hampered by crap around them, bad coaching, and bad schemes. I'd keep as many pieces in place as we can. For many they lost at least a year under Nagy's BS.
 

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You’re going to reset the market for OTs with a guy who isn’t the long term solution? Poles knows Brown quite well, so we’ll see what he thinks shortly.

I definitely like Johnson Jr. and Jones. If they drafted both of them, I’d love it.

I’m for any solution that ultimately solidifies this line. I do believe Poles thinks Jones is his LT.

Every NFL free agency technically "resets the market" somehow.

The Bears have so much cap space they haven't even met the MINIMUM yet of what they HAVE TO spend.

In any other year, on a more talented team, I would actually totally agree with you. But this is a very specific case in a very unusual year for an NFL team in the position they are in.

They actually can BENEFIT from overpaying on a 3 year contract for a tackle in order to reach that floor, and at the same time, it buys them time to restock the roster.

As far as Jones being the LT - if Poles wants to stick his neck out for Jones, that really will be the first test of Poles being a good talent evaluator. Because if he sticks his neck out and Jones succeeds, Poles looks like a king. If Jones fails, now people are going to start asking questions.

If it were me, I'd want insurance. This year is all about finding out if Fields can take that next step. I wouldn't want a still-unproven Left Tackle fucking up the evaluation...
 

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For sure. And the development of our rookies/young players has been hampered by crap around them, bad coaching, and bad schemes. I'd keep as many pieces in place as we can. For many they lost at least a year under Nagy's BS.

The only thing is, Offensive line is a position where a young player who was drafted lower can actually improve from the bench, because so much of it is strength and weight training. If Braxton for some reason rides the pine this year, no one should think that means the Bears are giving up on him. He needs more work, but there's a lot there to work with.
 

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The only thing is, Offensive line is a position where a young player who was drafted lower can actually improve from the bench, because so much of it is strength and weight training. If Braxton for some reason rides the pine this year, no one should think that means the Bears are giving up on him. He needs more work, but there's a lot there to work with.

The hell?

You realize braxton Jones is listed in nearly every redraft in the first round? He performed well as a rookie. Most of his issues are very fixable.

If you draft a legit LT(Paris) slide im to the right side and you have your bookends of the future.

I saw nothing to make me want to bench him. Move him to the right side? Maybe, but the man deserves to be a starter nextt year.
 

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The thing is you’re basing that evaluation off last season. What does he look like after this off season of weight training, conditioning and improved nutrition (hopefully regarding nutrition)?

The issue is, how will we know what he looks like until he goes up against opponents?

And by that point, its too late if it didn't work.

Bears need insurance at the LT spot.
 

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Paying big for two tackles would be a bad use of resources.

We should sign one high $$$ tackle at most.
 

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The hell?

You realize braxton Jones is listed in nearly every redraft in the first round? He performed well as a rookie. Most of his issues are very fixable.

Jones was drafted by the Chicago Bears with the 168th pick in the fifth round of the 2022 NFL Draft.[7]


Redrafts are from nerds who think they can just mix and match. Reality is he was picked where he was picked.

How many of those redrafts were done by active NFL scouts?
 

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Has Van Ness as a blue player? I like Van Ness but he's still a little raw.
I'd agree with Van Ness being a blue player. He is raw, but man he has freakish tools. He's strong as shit and has good quickness and agility. Right now, he's only a bull rusher, but if a team that drafts him can develop his pass rush moves, counters, and hand usage, he has double digit sack upside, while being an anchor in edge run defense. I heard him compared to former 49er, Justin Smith, which I love that comp.
 

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The issue is, how will we know what he looks like until he goes up against opponents?

And by that point, its too late if it didn't work.

Bears need insurance at the LT spot.

Yea, thats why you sign a Riley Reiff type.

Not sign a 25M Right tackle to play left tackle while benching your actual left tackle so he can "learn".
 

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Jones was drafted by the Chicago Bears with the 168th pick in the fifth round of the 2022 NFL Draft.[7]


Redrafts are from nerds who think they can just mix and match. Reality is he was picked where he was picked.

How many of those redrafts were done by active NFL scouts?

Makes sense.

You should let Tyreek Hill and George Kittle know they are ass cause they weren't drafted in the first round.
 

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