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It's not gonna.
Official Epstein Thread (Epstein baseball side prez/Hoyer is GM)
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That isn't true. He liked Jay Jackson, Starlin, Cashner, and also Trey McNutt alot. He's had good things to say about BJax as well. He's had bad things to say about how the Cubs have been run in the past, but he was right about that.
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Keith Law said Matt Szczur was a Juan Pierre clone.
Fail.
Fail.
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I want to see how Szczur performs in Double A before I form an opinion of him.
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Everyone take a minute and think the scenario out.
Red Sox have basically kicked Theo out. Cherington is the GM.
How would the Red Sox have much if any power if they've already made the move and Cherington is the one working on the comp?
The Cubs really hold the cards at this point.
What we'll probably see is us going to MLB and we'll probably give up a mid level spec and cash. Then the presser will be before the World Series starts.
From what I see with all of this it isn't in jeopardy at all.
Red Sox have basically kicked Theo out. Cherington is the GM.
How would the Red Sox have much if any power if they've already made the move and Cherington is the one working on the comp?
The Cubs really hold the cards at this point.
What we'll probably see is us going to MLB and we'll probably give up a mid level spec and cash. Then the presser will be before the World Series starts.
From what I see with all of this it isn't in jeopardy at all.
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That's how I viewed this scenario.
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I think it depends on the circumstances and who Ricketts goes out and gets instead. If Boston is demanding guys like Castro and Garza (which has been rumored), then I don't think anyone would blame Ricketts for walking away. If he goes out and gets Rick Hahn instead, I think the fans would be disappointed but understanding.
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If Epstein is really as good as the Cubs FO thinks he is(as shown by the contract they are offering him) then losing two players, to bring in a guy that is supposed to help bring in and develop "x" times that number of good players over the next 5-?? years would be worth it for the long term.
Calculated risk? Of course. Worth it? More than likely.
I'd be more than willing to give the Red Sox a guy like Marmol if they are interested.
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But yeah, Theo > prospects. If it comes to it, the Cubs will pay. And Theo will rebuild.
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Its prospects...not mlb players.....espn source said they want youklis replacement....give them vitters and be done with it
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But yeah, Theo > prospects. If it comes to it, the Cubs will pay. And Theo will rebuild.
Rice,
Would you give up Castro and Garza to ge Theo here for the long term?
Just curious.
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I still like Vitters..but if that's the sticking point for this deal...get him the hell to Boston. Now. Seriously. Baez in a few years projects to possibly be a 3rd basebman anyways.
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I'd probably give up Garza but not Castro...just for the upside thing and the part where I don't think Theo is magical enough to contend in the short term. But I don't think it'll come to that. I also don't think the Cubs will give up Brett Jackson. I think the Cubs basically have the leverage at this point and Boston is just stalling.
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Another thing is mlb don't want this announced till tue...both teams have weekend to low ball each other
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If it is about prospects I'd be interested to see who Boston has on their list.
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Why?
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It's between the ALCS/NLCS and the start of the World Series.
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I think you can Google the Cubs' top prospects list and there's your answer.
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Maybe..maybe not. I'm sure the red Sox like some guys that BA doesn't and doesn't like some guys that BA does.
For example I'm not a big McNutt fan. At all. I'm still fairly high on Vitters. BA isn't. The Red Sox have tons of scouts and I'd be interested to know what they think or who they like.
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From twitter sounds like deal getting closer....Theo backing off bringing guys over from bos
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