Official NFL Draft Thread - Bear Fans Only - and No Montucky!

[hester247]

If Poles trades up for Jeanty then I won't be too happy. And if they're really looking to trade up to #5, I hope they stick to their offer and call Jax's bluff. They've got a shit ton of holes to fill.

Nah I am very good with adding pick 148...Poles is a terrible drafter outside top 2 rounds. If the cost to get 5 is 39 and then we get to move up from 148 to 107 I pull that trigger every single damn time. In essence you move up in 1st rd from 10 to 5 and then you move up from 5th round with pick 148 to 4th rnd in pick 107 and you are giving up is 39???? Yeah sign me the **** up for that deal

 

[DefNextYear]

I still think Jax might rail poles in a trade

I so hope you’re wrong… but the leaks scare me. Either someone is putting a lot of smoke out there for some reason, or the Bears are about to overpay.

 

[Nelly]

Nah I am very good with adding pick 148...Poles is a terrible drafter outside top 2 rounds. If the cost to get 5 is 39 and then we get to move up from 148 to 107 I pull that trigger every single damn time. In essence you move up in 1st rd from 10 to 5 and then you move up from 5th round with pick 148 to 4th rnd in pick 107 and you are giving up is 39???? Yeah sign me the **** up for that deal

To draft a running back in the deepest draft of running backs in recent memory?

If it's to draft Mason Graham or something then I'd be more ok with it but it's still an overpay according to the value charts. No need to add more than necessary when it's Jacksonville who's feet are more to the fire than ours. They could possibly trade down from #10 and pick up more picks or trade down from one of their then 2 2nd rounders for more picks. But they've already for 2 3rds and 2 4ths as well.

 

[hester247]

To draft a running back in the deepest draft of running backs in recent memory?

If it's to draft Mason Graham or something then I'd be more ok with it but it's still an overpay according to the value charts. No need to add more than necessary when it's Jacksonville who's feet are more to the fire than ours. They could possibly trade down from #10 and pick up more picks or trade down from one of their then 2 2nd rounders for more picks.

This draft sucks..period..and I think Poles knows it and the league knows it. Get Blue chip players period end of story.

 

[TL1961]

Well the draft actually has zero teenagers

But he had to add “teenagers” as some attempt to disparage them. Weird flex.

 

[DefNextYear]

Gladstone seems pretty sharp. Poles seems ehh pretty nice. We'll see what happens.

Impending feeling of either trading up for jeanty (bad decision even though I love the player) or taking Warren at 10 (bad decision and not a big fan of the player)

I’d just shift to someone like Nolen… maybe Walker is there. Cowboys and Colts are reportedly trying to move up, so those are possibilities too.

 

[Xplosive]

Wouldn't saying it is catastrophic be the opposite of downplaying it?

You're suggesting several people - presumably from different organizations - are pretending there is a serious injury that doesn't really exist so Simmons can fall to one (unnamed) team? And you're basing it on how it looked to you on the game film?

No, I said his quick rehab and improvement is being down played. At least we will know for sure today. If the internet doctors and draftniks are correct, there's no way any team will take him in the first round.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Poles made a little comment about players who can help “quickly” in his last presser.

My Poles goes YOLO worry is:

1: trade up for Jeanty as no player in draft will have more day 1 impact.

2: day 2 trade for an edge. Either the Giants or Bengals edge. (Many Bears reporters have commented about Dayo being here as much for interior pass rush as anything)

3: trade down with 3rd round pick. Dumpster dive for OL and safety.

4: trade one or both the 7ths for vets

 

[bufordht]

Nah I am very good with adding pick 148...Poles is a terrible drafter outside top 2 rounds. If the cost to get 5 is 39 and then we get to move up from 148 to 107 I pull that trigger every single damn time. In essence you move up in 1st rd from 10 to 5 and then you move up from 5th round with pick 148 to 4th rnd in pick 107 and you are giving up is 39???? Yeah sign me the **** up for that deal

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. This is such a bad take.

 

[DefNextYear]

No, I said his quick rehab and improvement is being down played. At least we will know for sure today. If the internet doctors and draftniks are correct, there's no way any team will take him in the first round.

He’ll be a second rounder in this weak draft. Someone will roll the dice that 80% of what he was supposed to be is good enough. He’ll never be a premiere LT in this league though.

 

[gallagher]

I so hope you’re wrong… but the leaks scare me. Either someone is putting a lot of smoke out there for some reason, or the Bears are about to overpay.

I think that all the rumors are actually from Jeanty's agent.

 

[Nelly]

This draft sucks..period..and I think Poles knows it and the league knows it. Get Blue chip players period end of story.

So you think the Bears can be literally the first team in a very long time who can draft a top 10 running back and have it work out for them?

• The last top 10 back drafted was Bijan Robinson. Looks alright for now but Atlanta isn't some juggernaut because of him.
• Before that, in 2018 it was Saquon #2. How'd the Giants fare with him?
• Jacksonville took Fournette #4 overall in 2017. How'd that work out? Carolina took McCaffrey #8 overall and it never turned into any team success, not until he was traded to a good team.
• 2016 the Cowboys took Ezekiel Elliot #4 overall. He had some good years but it didn't translate to many wins when it counted.
• The Rams took Todd Gurley 10th overall in 2015. How'd he do?
• in 2012 the Browns took Trent Richardson 3rd overall. Ditto.

If history is any indicator, we'd be trying to buck a really bad trend by taking Jeanty at #10 let alone trading up for him. You could look at the superbowl winners and their leading rushers and other than this past season, you won't find any dynamic, incredible rushers. The Chiefs won the prior two years with Pacheco as their leading rusher (under 1,000 yards both seasons). The Rams before that with Sony Michel under 1,000 yards. The Bucs before that with Ronald Jones under 1,000 yards. The Chiefs before that with Damien Williams at under 500 yards. The Patriots in 2018 with Sony Michel under 1,000 yards. The Eagles in 2017 with LeGarrette Blount under 800 yards. Other than last year, you need to go back to the 2016 Patriots to find the last superbowl winner with a leading rusher over 1,000 yards (LeGarrette Blount as well).

There's a reason why the RB position has become so devalued.

 

[DefNextYear]

Poles made a little comment about players who can help immediately in his last presser.

My Poles goes YOLO worry is:

1: trade up for Jeanty as no player in draft will have more day 1 impact.

2: day 2 trade for an edge. Either the Giants or Bengals edge. (Many Bears reporters have commented about Dayo being here as much for interior pass rush as anything)

3: trade down with 3rd round pick. Dumpster dive for OL and safety.

I think you’re right in that Poles will look to add a veteran like Hendrickson or Kayvon. I don’t think Dayo is just an interior rusher though. Allen values really big guys to set the edge and collapse the pocket. While Dayo will certainly be moved cause Allen likes to do that, I expect he’ll primarily be on the edge of the line.

I hate a move up to 5. I don’t hate Jeanty and I’m sure we’d all move on and love watching Jeanty play. One day we may even say the decision was correct, but I hate it today. I feel he’s being hustled by the young guy trying to be overzealous.

 

[Xplosive]

Passing on Mason Graham to take Warren, with Nolen going above Graham? Wow.

To me, this seems like something (Graham's going to fall) that gets injected into the aether and people just take it and run with it, like it's cool or something. How does Graham basically go from a consensus top 5 pick to falling out of the top 10 in a matter of days? I don't buy it. He's arguably been one of the most dominant DTs the college game has seen for decades.

It reminds me of Aidan Hutchinson/Travon Walker. All Hutchinson did was dominate at Michigan, then Travon Walker turns in a great combine and the Jags pick him over the guy who's measurables aren't quite as good but has production for days. Walker has taken some time to develop into a good starter while Hutchinson has been dominant since first stepping on the field. I sure hope the 9 teams above us overthink this but then Poles doesn't if he's available at 10.

I look forward to the actual draft because a lot of points that have been absolutely trashed on CCS are suddenly popping up in a lot of final mocks.

We shall finally see who the "idiots" truly are.

 

[Enasic]

I still think Jax might rail poles in a trade

Nah Ian is out for blood…they’ll be lucky to get a 7th

 

[Enasic]

I look forward to the actual draft because a lot of points that have been absolutely trashed on CCS are suddenly popping up in a lot of final mocks.

We shall finally see who the "idiots" truly are.

Gonna take years to really determine anything

 

[DefNextYear]

Nah Ian is out for blood…they’ll be lucky to get a 7th

Good point actually. Very good point… no way Ian allows Poles to trade with them and let the guy they chose look good. Even if it’s the wrong choice not to move, I’d imagine they’d be stubborn. Ian just said how it hurt to lose that job and Poles can’t do that to his buddy.

 

[DefNextYear]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1915390510975381520

Haha

Is this post meant to mock the process? What’s this mean? I assume he’s laughing that no one knows anything?

 

[hester247]

So you think the Bears can be literally the first team in a very long time who can draft a top 10 running back and have it work out for them?

• The last top 10 back drafted was Bijan Robinson. Looks alright for now but Atlanta isn't some juggernaut because of him.
• Before that, in 2018 it was Saquon #2. How'd the Giants fare with him?
• Jacksonville took Fournette #4 overall in 2017. How'd that work out? Carolina took McCaffrey #8 overall and it never turned into any team success, not until he was traded to a good team.
• 2016 the Cowboys took Ezekiel Elliot #4 overall. He had some good years but it didn't translate to many wins when it counted.
• The Rams took Todd Gurley 10th overall in 2015. How'd he do?
• in 2012 the Browns took Trent Richardson 3rd overall. Ditto.

If history is any indicator, we'd be trying to buck a really bad trend by taking Jeanty at #10 let alone trading up for him. You could look at the superbowl winners and their leading rushers and other than this past season, you won't find any dynamic, incredible rushers. The Chiefs won the prior two years with Pacheco as their leading rusher (under 1,000 yards both seasons). The Rams before that with Sony Michel under 1,000 yards. The Bucs before that with Ronald Jones under 1,000 yards. The Chiefs before that with Damien Williams at under 500 yards. The Patriots in 2018 with Sony Michel under 1,000 yards. The Eagles in 2017 with LeGarrette Blount under 800 yards. Other than last year, you need to go back to the 2016 Patriots to find the last superbowl winner with a leading rusher over 1,000 yards (LeGarrette Blount as well).

There's a reason why the RB position has become so devalued.

where did I say draft Jeanty? I want to trade up for Abdul Carter or Mason Graham

 

[playthrough2001]

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. This is such a bad take.

If they are hell bent on Jeanty, 10 and 41 for 5 and 107 is a fair deal. **** giving them 39.

Plus, there is no way in hell they should add 148.

They should stick and pick or trade down.

I’m still hoping for Banks Jr. but now it seems everyone is coming to the conclusion I’ve been stating for months, the guy is pretty damn good!

Although, I’m sure the NFL people knew this all along. It’s the pretend experts that have been dogging him.