Official NFL Draft Thread - Bear Fans Only - and No Montucky!

[msadows]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1915379131237253522

If mason Graham drops to 9 and we dont move up with the panthers i'm going to throw a remote through my tv.

This is going to be another aaron donald/kyle fuller situation, wont it?

 

[Nelly]

I’m just saying WE consider him that. We have no clue yet if teams agree. They disagree on media/fan consensus every year.

It seems like "we" as in "draftniks talking about the draft" seem to have soured on him for some reason. I'm making the argument that that's overthinking things and that NFL GMs will value the incredible production and technique over the less-than-ideal measurables.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1915394110262755552

 

[Discus fish salesman]

I still think Jax might rail poles in a trade

 

[Nelly]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1915394110262755552

If Poles trades up for Jeanty then I won't be too happy. And if they're really looking to trade up to #5, I hope they stick to their offer and call Jax's bluff. They've got a shit ton of holes to fill and that second rounder is extra valuable in a draft where people don't have much difference between the 15th and 50th prospects.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

I love jeanty. Giving up 39 or 41 is a bad process

 

[Nelly]

I still think Jax might rail poles in a trade

I sure as **** hope they haven't fallen in love with Jeanty that much that they'd be willing to give up a 2nd to move up for him. That seems reckless.

#5 + #107 = 1780
#10 + #39 = 1810

We're already overpaying based on value there and Jax reportedly wants more? Adding #41 instead of #39 would be 1790 which is still an overpay, according to the Jimmy Johnson chart anyway.

Edit to add: what's more, Poles' first FA signing last year was De'Andre Swift for $8 mil AAV, and then we'd be trading up to take a back to effectively replace him? Bad form.

 

[DefNextYear]

Passing on Mason Graham to take Warren, with Nolen going above Graham? Wow.

To me, this seems like something (Graham's going to fall) that gets injected into the aether and people just take it and run with it, like it's cool or something. How does Graham basically go from a consensus top 5 pick to falling out of the top 10 in a matter of days? I don't buy it. He's arguably been one of the most dominant DTs the college game has seen for decades.

It reminds me of Aidan Hutchinson/Travon Walker. All Hutchinson did was dominate at Michigan, then Travon Walker turns in a great combine and the Jags pick him over the guy who's measurables aren't quite as good but has production for days. Walker has taken some time to develop into a good starter while Hutchinson has been dominant since first stepping on the field. I sure hope the 9 teams above us overthink this but then Poles doesn't if he's available at 10.

It’s just that teams weren’t talking as much til now. Before, the consensus was developed the media. Now, NFL teams value is starting to be factored.

 

[DefNextYear]

I love jeanty. Giving up 39 or 41 is a bad process

Let them have him. Call the bluff. See what happens. Patience is needed to turn this around… not blow your load to move up for a RB.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Gladstone seems pretty sharp. Poles seems ehh pretty nice. We'll see what happens.

Impending feeling of either trading up for jeanty (bad decision even though I love the player) or taking Warren at 10 (bad decision and not a big fan of the player)

 

[hester247]

If Poles trades up for Jeanty then I won't be too happy. And if they're really looking to trade up to #5, I hope they stick to their offer and call Jax's bluff. They've got a shit ton of holes to fill.

Nah I am very good with adding pick 148...Poles is a terrible drafter outside top 2 rounds. If the cost to get 5 is 39 and then we get to move up from 148 to 107 I pull that trigger every single damn time. In essence you move up in 1st rd from 10 to 5 and then you move up from 5th round with pick 148 to 4th rnd in pick 107 and you are giving up is 39???? Yeah sign me the **** up for that deal

 

[DefNextYear]

I still think Jax might rail poles in a trade

I so hope you’re wrong… but the leaks scare me. Either someone is putting a lot of smoke out there for some reason, or the Bears are about to overpay.

 

[Nelly]

Nah I am very good with adding pick 148...Poles is a terrible drafter outside top 2 rounds. If the cost to get 5 is 39 and then we get to move up from 148 to 107 I pull that trigger every single damn time. In essence you move up in 1st rd from 10 to 5 and then you move up from 5th round with pick 148 to 4th rnd in pick 107 and you are giving up is 39???? Yeah sign me the **** up for that deal

To draft a running back in the deepest draft of running backs in recent memory?

If it's to draft Mason Graham or something then I'd be more ok with it but it's still an overpay according to the value charts. No need to add more than necessary when it's Jacksonville who's feet are more to the fire than ours. They could possibly trade down from #10 and pick up more picks or trade down from one of their then 2 2nd rounders for more picks. But they've already for 2 3rds and 2 4ths as well.

 

[hester247]

To draft a running back in the deepest draft of running backs in recent memory?

If it's to draft Mason Graham or something then I'd be more ok with it but it's still an overpay according to the value charts. No need to add more than necessary when it's Jacksonville who's feet are more to the fire than ours. They could possibly trade down from #10 and pick up more picks or trade down from one of their then 2 2nd rounders for more picks.

This draft sucks..period..and I think Poles knows it and the league knows it. Get Blue chip players period end of story.

 

[TL1961]

Well the draft actually has zero teenagers

But he had to add “teenagers” as some attempt to disparage them. Weird flex.

 

[DefNextYear]

Gladstone seems pretty sharp. Poles seems ehh pretty nice. We'll see what happens.

Impending feeling of either trading up for jeanty (bad decision even though I love the player) or taking Warren at 10 (bad decision and not a big fan of the player)

I’d just shift to someone like Nolen… maybe Walker is there. Cowboys and Colts are reportedly trying to move up, so those are possibilities too.

 

[Xplosive]

Wouldn't saying it is catastrophic be the opposite of downplaying it?

You're suggesting several people - presumably from different organizations - are pretending there is a serious injury that doesn't really exist so Simmons can fall to one (unnamed) team? And you're basing it on how it looked to you on the game film?

No, I said his quick rehab and improvement is being down played. At least we will know for sure today. If the internet doctors and draftniks are correct, there's no way any team will take him in the first round.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Poles made a little comment about players who can help “quickly” in his last presser.

My Poles goes YOLO worry is:

1: trade up for Jeanty as no player in draft will have more day 1 impact.

2: day 2 trade for an edge. Either the Giants or Bengals edge. (Many Bears reporters have commented about Dayo being here as much for interior pass rush as anything)

3: trade down with 3rd round pick. Dumpster dive for OL and safety.

4: trade one or both the 7ths for vets

 

[bufordht]

Nah I am very good with adding pick 148...Poles is a terrible drafter outside top 2 rounds. If the cost to get 5 is 39 and then we get to move up from 148 to 107 I pull that trigger every single damn time. In essence you move up in 1st rd from 10 to 5 and then you move up from 5th round with pick 148 to 4th rnd in pick 107 and you are giving up is 39???? Yeah sign me the **** up for that deal

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. This is such a bad take.

 

[DefNextYear]

No, I said his quick rehab and improvement is being down played. At least we will know for sure today. If the internet doctors and draftniks are correct, there's no way any team will take him in the first round.

He’ll be a second rounder in this weak draft. Someone will roll the dice that 80% of what he was supposed to be is good enough. He’ll never be a premiere LT in this league though.