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hell if that shitty value gets 10 then I propose 41 and 72 for their pick at 25
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Passing on Mason Graham to take Warren, with Nolen going above Graham? Wow.
To me, this seems like something (Graham's going to fall) that gets injected into the aether and people just take it and run with it, like it's cool or something. How does Graham basically go from a consensus top 5 pick to falling out of the top 10 in a matter of days? I don't buy it. He's arguably been one of the most dominant DTs the college game has seen for decades.
It reminds me of Aidan Hutchinson/Travon Walker. All Hutchinson did was dominate at Michigan, then Travon Walker turns in a great combine and the Jags pick him over the guy who's measurables aren't quite as good but has production for days. Walker has taken some time to develop into a good starter while Hutchinson has been dominant since first stepping on the field. I sure hope the 9 teams above us overthink this but then Poles doesn't if he's available at 10.
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Ok, sure, but he's been considered one of the very best prospects behind Hunter/Carter for a very long time, and rightfully so.
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One of the most dominant DTs in decades? That's a stretch.
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I’m just saying WE consider him that. We have no clue yet if teams agree. They disagree on media/fan consensus every year.
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If mason Graham drops to 9 and we dont move up with the panthers i'm going to throw a remote through my tv.
This is going to be another aaron donald/kyle fuller situation, wont it?
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It seems like "we" as in "draftniks talking about the draft" seem to have soured on him for some reason. I'm making the argument that that's overthinking things and that NFL GMs will value the incredible production and technique over the less-than-ideal measurables.
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I still think Jax might rail poles in a trade
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If Poles trades up for Jeanty then I won't be too happy. And if they're really looking to trade up to #5, I hope they stick to their offer and call Jax's bluff. They've got a shit ton of holes to fill and that second rounder is extra valuable in a draft where people don't have much difference between the 15th and 50th prospects.
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I love jeanty. Giving up 39 or 41 is a bad process
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I sure as **** hope they haven't fallen in love with Jeanty that much that they'd be willing to give up a 2nd to move up for him. That seems reckless.
#5 + #107 = 1780
#10 + #39 = 1810
We're already overpaying based on value there and Jax reportedly wants more? Adding #41 instead of #39 would be 1790 which is still an overpay, according to the Jimmy Johnson chart anyway.
Edit to add: what's more, Poles' first FA signing last year was De'Andre Swift for $8 mil AAV, and then we'd be trading up to take a back to effectively replace him? Bad form.
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It’s just that teams weren’t talking as much til now. Before, the consensus was developed the media. Now, NFL teams value is starting to be factored.
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Let them have him. Call the bluff. See what happens. Patience is needed to turn this around… not blow your load to move up for a RB.
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Gladstone seems pretty sharp. Poles seems ehh pretty nice. We'll see what happens.
Impending feeling of either trading up for jeanty (bad decision even though I love the player) or taking Warren at 10 (bad decision and not a big fan of the player)
Impending feeling of either trading up for jeanty (bad decision even though I love the player) or taking Warren at 10 (bad decision and not a big fan of the player)
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Nah I am very good with adding pick 148...Poles is a terrible drafter outside top 2 rounds. If the cost to get 5 is 39 and then we get to move up from 148 to 107 I pull that trigger every single damn time. In essence you move up in 1st rd from 10 to 5 and then you move up from 5th round with pick 148 to 4th rnd in pick 107 and you are giving up is 39???? Yeah sign me the **** up for that deal
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I so hope you’re wrong… but the leaks scare me. Either someone is putting a lot of smoke out there for some reason, or the Bears are about to overpay.
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To draft a running back in the deepest draft of running backs in recent memory?
If it's to draft Mason Graham or something then I'd be more ok with it but it's still an overpay according to the value charts. No need to add more than necessary when it's Jacksonville who's feet are more to the fire than ours. They could possibly trade down from #10 and pick up more picks or trade down from one of their then 2 2nd rounders for more picks. But they've already for 2 3rds and 2 4ths as well.
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