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BaBaBlacksheep said:
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Hate the trend I am seeing on these late mocks. 3 tackles in top 7. Warren to Bears.
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Ashton Jeanty, RB, Boise State​

One of the reasons Liam Coen reversed course and took the Jaguars job is because of the opportunity he’d have to pick his own GM and help shape the football operation—and I think, as such, his fingerprints will be all over this pick. The one thing that gives me pause with Jeanty this high is the presence of analytics in the organization, which could nudge Coen and GM James Gladstone toward Tetairoa McMillan, a bigger receiver with parallels to what Coen won with in Tampa and Trevor Lawrence won with at Clemson.
 
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Discus fish salesman said:
All these morons keep mocking banks to LV to replace Kolton Miller. Idk why LV (with a lot of cap space) would let their best OL walk next year. I don't buy banks to LV at all. I think it is membou, tet or walker
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I think the thought is Banks can play RT or guard also while they iron out the OL. He’s a high character and high floor choice. Miller isn’t going anywhere.
 
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I think the thought is Banks can play RT or guard also while they iron out the OL. He’s a high character and high floor choice. Miller isn’t going anywhere.
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Membou is a better option at RT or G though. They are playing off Carroll and Sarkisian connection which would be dumb of the Raiders to value Sarkisians word over their actual scouting reports
 
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TL1961 said:
As it should be.

As a fan, I want my GM to have confidence in his/his staff's evaluations and conviction in his picks. I want him to have zero concerns over fan perception when making his pick.
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I don't really care about his confidence/conviction. I prefer him to be right.

Actually conviction can lead to trading up for a bust or passing up a guy who dropped because you're convinced your guy is the guy. I prefer a guy who understands that even the best best talent evaluators are wrong a lot and this keeps an open mind, looks at every angle.

Honestly if these guys have a lot of confidence in their picks they're stupid. It's like having confidence in rolling dice.
 
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BaBaBlacksheep said:
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Hate the trend I am seeing on these late mocks. 3 tackles in top 7. Warren to Bears.
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Passing on Mason Graham to take Warren, with Nolen going above Graham? Wow.

To me, this seems like something (Graham's going to fall) that gets injected into the aether and people just take it and run with it, like it's cool or something. How does Graham basically go from a consensus top 5 pick to falling out of the top 10 in a matter of days? I don't buy it. He's arguably been one of the most dominant DTs the college game has seen for decades.

It reminds me of Aidan Hutchinson/Travon Walker. All Hutchinson did was dominate at Michigan, then Travon Walker turns in a great combine and the Jags pick him over the guy who's measurables aren't quite as good but has production for days. Walker has taken some time to develop into a good starter while Hutchinson has been dominant since first stepping on the field. I sure hope the 9 teams above us overthink this but then Poles doesn't if he's available at 10.
 
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Nelly said:
Passing on Mason Graham to take Warren, with Nolen going above Graham.

To me, this seems like something that gets injected into the narrative and people just take it and run with it, like it's cool or something. How does Graham basically go from a consensus top 5 pick to falling out of the top 10 in a matter of days? I don't buy it. He's arguably been one of the most dominant DTs the college game has seen for decades.

It reminds me of Aidan Hutchinson/Travon Walker. All Hutchinson did was dominate at Michigan, then Travon Walker turns in a great combine and the Jags pick him over the guy who's measurables aren't quite as good but has production for days. Walker has taken some time to develop into a good starter while Hutchinson has been dominant since first stepping on the field. I sure hope the 9 teams above us overthink this but then Poles doesn't if he's available at 10.
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Because there is no such thing as a “consensus top 5 pick”.
 
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Nelly said:
Passing on Mason Graham to take Warren, with Nolen going above Graham? Wow.

To me, this seems like something (Graham's going to fall) that gets injected into the aether and people just take it and run with it, like it's cool or something. How does Graham basically go from a consensus top 5 pick to falling out of the top 10 in a matter of days? I don't buy it. He's arguably been one of the most dominant DTs the college game has seen for decades.

It reminds me of Aidan Hutchinson/Travon Walker. All Hutchinson did was dominate at Michigan, then Travon Walker turns in a great combine and the Jags pick him over the guy who's measurables aren't quite as good but has production for days. Walker has taken some time to develop into a good starter while Hutchinson has been dominant since first stepping on the field. I sure hope the 9 teams above us overthink this but then Poles doesn't if he's available at 10.
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One of the most dominant DTs in decades? That's a stretch.
 

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Nelly said:
Ok, sure, but he's been considered one of the very best prospects behind Hunter/Carter for a very long time, and rightfully so.
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I’m just saying WE consider him that. We have no clue yet if teams agree. They disagree on media/fan consensus every year.
 
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BaBaBlacksheep said:
I’m just saying WE consider him that. We have no clue yet if teams agree. They disagree on media/fan consensus every year.
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It seems like "we" as in "draftniks talking about the draft" seem to have soured on him for some reason. I'm making the argument that that's overthinking things and that NFL GMs will value the incredible production and technique over the less-than-ideal measurables.
 
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