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Yea, he looks good with everything I watch. In such a weak OT draft, I'm surprised he doesn't get more hype. He looked pretty damn good against the soon-to-be top 3 pick.

Funny because people will point out that one rep against green at the senior bowl but ignore his play against Carter in an actual game.

The talking heads and TV “experts” hype up players based on what their sources tell them…and oftentimes those sources are giving them misinformation and falsely talking up one prospect, while downplaying another.

Regarding OTs in this draft, it would not surprise me at all if conerly and/or banks go ahead of will Campbell who is getting most of the pre-draft shine despite being the definition of an outlier for NFL OTs.
 

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Funny because people will point out that one rep against green at the senior bowl but ignore his play against Carter in an actual game.

The talking heads and TV “experts” hype up players based on what their sources tell them…and oftentimes those sources are giving them misinformation and falsely talking up one prospect, while downplaying another.

Regarding OTs in this draft, it would not surprise me at all if conerly and/or banks go ahead of will Campbell who is getting most of the pre-draft shine despite being the definition of an outlier for NFL OTs.
The Will Campbell part is really hard for me to figure out. I guess we'll see. I'm genuinely interested to see if people do let him drop due to the measurables. You see people all the time put emphasis on the tape, but then we also know those measurables end up making a huge impact as well.
 

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The Will Campbell part is really hard for me to figure out. I guess we'll see. I'm genuinely interested to see if people do let him drop due to the measurables. You see people all the time put emphasis on the tape, but then we also know those measurables end up making a huge impact as well.

Same. Most interesting player at the top of draft to me.
 

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The Will Campbell part is really hard for me to figure out. I guess we'll see. I'm genuinely interested to see if people do let him drop due to the measurables. You see people all the time put emphasis on the tape, but then we also know those measurables end up making a huge impact as well.

If you’re a scout, would you put your reputation on the line vouching for a guy with 33 inch arms and a 77 inch wingspan when the facts are

1. There are zero current OTs in the NFL with those measurements
2. There has never been a pro bowl LT with those measurements

Beyond that, I think his on field play has been really overrated. Think it’s more good than great, but those measurements are just a killer. He should fall, but teams do dumb shit all the time.
 

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I’d be pretty surprised if he’s even available at 25. He’s arguably the best LT in the draft.
This one I can't disagree with you on. Also know Poles has scouted him personally over the last two years. Think he was projected as a 3rd round pick in last year's draft.
 

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I love this. Keep building the lines. This guy looks like he could be an amazing NFL guard.

I haven’t watched him but he actually has longer arms than some of the tackles and he tested well. Interesting that he’s pretty universally projected to be a guard.
 

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I love this. Keep building the lines. This guy looks like he could be an amazing NFL guard.
He has 34" arm length I believe, he was primarily a RT in college and does seen like a player that might be better at guard. With that said I have always thought he was a good 2nd round option for the Bears.
 

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If you’re a scout, would you put your reputation on the line vouching for a guy with 33 inch arms and a 77 inch wingspan when the facts are

1. There are zero current OTs in the NFL with those measurements
2. There has never been a pro bowl LT with those measurements

Beyond that, I think his on field play has been really overrated. Think it’s more good than great, but those measurements are just a killer. He should fall, but teams do dumb shit all the time.
Yea, I get the debate cause he's a guy I was hoping to have until all these reports of him having short arms... then we got actual measurements.

Would I do it? I guess it just depends on how confident I felt in my scouting. I'm not a scout, so I personally have no confidence. But, I think it's easier to pass a player so long as you have a better one to give. Say I know Mason and Membou are slam dunks and I'm correct, then the likelihood of being "wrong" would be small. This is easy at the top of the board. I think the Patriots can easily pass on Campbell if they're unsure, as an example.

But as we get to the 10th pick, I have to be absolutely sure whoever I say is the better choice at 10 will be the better player. At 10, it's probably a lot harder to make that guarantee. Ultimately, it usually doesn't matter as long as you draft a really good player. I totally get what you're saying though and the historical basis behind it. If he slides, I'll know that's why and won't blame teams for shying away. If he's a stud, I guess it'll just be a new data point for the future to tip the scales the other way. Really, the bottom line is you can't pick a guy that will be a bust... and that's even worse if you pick a bust and Campbell ends up good.
 
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