Official NFL Draft Thread - Bear Fans Only - and No Montucky!

[bearsfan1977]

Well Callahan went 3-14 in year 1 and if levis or Brandon Allen is his qb, he'll be fired after year 2. Ward is the only qb in this draft that has talent that could save a HC/GM job. New gm has no commitment to the coach. Real bad situation for Callahan

I think it depends on ownership, and if they are sensible at looking at long-term success over the short term supposed need to take Ward to try to save their jobs.

Ironically, I think trading out and not taking Ward is better for the team’s long-term success.

So yes, the GM should be able to tell ownership that he would rather acquire picks and draft a blue chip player rather than taking a career backup QB like Ward or Sanders (my opinion obviously). Build the team the right way and focus on QB next year.

Now if the GM feels like Ward can be an elite franchise QB, then obviously draft him. But if he thinks that, that would be far more worrisome to me if I was the owner than if he came to me and said he wanted to trade out of the top spot.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Which 3?

NO, atl, cincy (unless they plan to use him at G which isn't a good idea and also ignore the glaringly terrible defense)

 

[Discus fish salesman]

I think it depends on ownership, and if they are sensible at looking at long-term success over the short term supposed need to take Ward to try to save their jobs.

Ironically, I think trading out and not taking Ward is better for the team’s long-term success.

So yes, the GM should be able to tell ownership that he would rather acquire picks and draft a blue chip player rather than taking a career backup QB like Ward or Sanders (my opinion obviously). Build the team the right way and focus on QB next year.

Now if the GM feels like Ward can be an elite franchise QB, then obviously draft him. But if he thinks that, that would be far more worrisome to me if I was the owner than if he came to me and said he wanted to trade out of the top spot.

Gm can do whatever they want, it's his first year. The ownership has already shown to be impatient and impulsive. Very few nfl teams have patience with gms/coaches.

 

[Luke]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1911839280478961746

So Jeanty, Hampton, Johnson will have visited.
Bears are most definitely taking a RB with one of their top 3 picks, Ben needs his new weapon.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

NO, atl, cincy (unless they plan to use him at G which isn't a good idea and also ignore the glaringly terrible defense)

OBJ kinda sucks in Cincy. Would assume teams are checking to see if he can play RT too since he was only a LT in college

 

[Discus fish salesman]

OBJ kinda sucks in Cincy. Would assume teams are checking to see if he can play RT too since he was only a LT in college

That would be an absolutely abysmal use of their draft pick. It is cincy though, so I guess it's possible in that sense

 

[knoxville7]

So Jeanty, Hampton, Johnson will have visited.
Bears are most definitely taking a RB with one of their top 3 picks, Ben needs his new weapon.

#smokescreen

 

[SugarWalls]

I have said that about the Falcons for the last two years, and they have gone offense. With that owner you can never figure out what the hellthey are going to do.

Well, isn't it said that the TE is a bad QB's best friend. I believe Colts are very interested in Warren. Colts only have to trade up 4 picks.

Sure they might draft Warren but trading up sounds like a bit of a reach to me

 

[pseudonym]

Sure they might draft Warren but trading up sounds like a bit of a reach to me

I wouldn't trade up for Warren. I'd trade up for Jeanty if it only cost #41.

 

[SugarWalls]

I wouldn't trade up for Warren. I'd trade up for Jeanty if it only cost #41.

I wouldn’t trade up for anyone besides Carter, and even still why give up draft capital when there is deep talent in this draft

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

I wouldn’t trade up for anyone besides Carter, and even still why give up draft capital when there is deep talent in this draft

Mason Graham worth a trade up

 

[pseudonym]

I wouldn’t trade up for anyone besides Carter, and even still why give up draft capital when there is deep talent in this draft

I don't feel like we have nearly as many holes. Jeanty would be a HUGE upgrade. What I'm looking at right now at #10 would be in impact player. To me, that's RB, TE, maybe LT/DE if the pick starts. #39 and #41 are for depth, and future starters. Jeanty would have an IMMEDIATE impact. Would Hampton? Henderson? Judkins? Kaleb? Maybe. But there are only a few blue chip OFF players, and Jeanty is one of them.

Whatever they do, they have my trust. I expect them at #10 to go RB, TE, LT, DE, or DT. That's it.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Sure they might draft Warren but trading up sounds like a bit of a reach to me

Imagine the Falcons trading up for a TE with a debatably better TE that will be drafted later, while having a TE who they drafted #4 on their roster that is a bust.

I don't feel like we have nearly as many holes. Jeanty would be a HUGE upgrade. What I'm looking at right now at #10 would be in impact player. To me, that's RB, TE, maybe LT/DE if the pick starts. #39 and #41 are for depth, and future starters. Jeanty would have an IMMEDIATE impact. Would Hampton? Henderson? Judkins? Kaleb? Maybe. But there are only a few blue chip OFF players, and Jeanty is one of them.

Whatever they do, they have my trust. I expect them at #10 to go RB, TE, LT, DE, or DT. That's it.

Great teams have good depth. Bears don't have that. Trading up for a luxury is something a SB contender has the luxury of, not the bears. I'm fine with jeanty if he falls to 10, if they trade up for him then they should have a mental assessment

 

[SugarWalls]

I don't feel like we have nearly as many holes. Jeanty would be a HUGE upgrade. What I'm looking at right now at #10 would be in impact player. To me, that's RB, TE, maybe LT/DE if the pick starts. #39 and #41 are for depth, and future starters. Jeanty would have an IMMEDIATE impact. Would Hampton? Henderson? Judkins? Kaleb? Maybe. But there are only a few blue chip OFF players, and Jeanty is one of them.

I think any of the RB’s you mentioned would have immediate impact. A lot of this will fall on Ben Johnson and how he can figure to use them.

Also, Bears should be able to get immediate impact at 39 and 41 because this draft is deep, even if they are rotational players there can be big impact….

Bucky Irving was 10th in rushing yards at 1122 last year as a rookie, picked in the 4th round

Karen Williams 5th round pick 1299 yards 7th in the nfl.

Why can’t any of the guys you mentioned or maybe even someone else have that type of impact on a functioning offense led by Ben Johnson and an improved OL?

 

[Les Grossman]

Mason Graham worth a trade up

Maybe, but the other DTs are pretty awesome as well. No point in throwing away draft picks imo

 

[Luke]

1. Tennessee Titans: QB Cameron Ward, Miami (Fl.)
2. Cleveland Browns: WR/CB Travis Hunter, Colorado
3. New York Giants EDGE Abdul Carter, Penn State
4. New England Patriots: T Will Campbell, LSU
5. Jacksonville Jaguars: DI Mason Graham, Michigan
6. Las Vegas Raiders: RB Ashon Jeanty, Boise State
7. New York Jets: T Armand Membou, Missouri
8. Carolina Panthers: Edge Jalon Walker, Georgia
9. New Orleans Saints: QB Shedeur Sanders, Colorado
10. Chicago Bears: TE Tyler Warren, Penn State

The above is Kiper's final mock.
Mel gets lazy and follows the odds.
If Ben wants Warren that's fine, but...

CCS will rip its collective dick off.

 

[Leon Sandcastle]

Maybe, but the other DTs are pretty awesome as well. No point in throwing away draft picks imo

Agreed. As much as I’d love Graham I don’t think it’s worth it when there are at least 3 other guys that will be available at 10

 

[dabears70]

I don't feel like we have nearly as many holes. Jeanty would be a HUGE upgrade. What I'm looking at right now at #10 would be in impact player. To me, that's RB, TE, maybe LT/DE if the pick starts. #39 and #41 are for depth, and future starters. Jeanty would have an IMMEDIATE impact. Would Hampton? Henderson? Judkins? Kaleb? Maybe. But there are only a few blue chip OFF players, and Jeanty is one of them.

Whatever they do, they have my trust. I expect them at #10 to go RB, TE, LT, DE, or DT. That's it.

We do have holes in the way of B.Jones and K.Byard are free agents after next year, T.Edmunds and D.Swift are more than likely gone after next year and as of right now J.Thuney is also a free agent after next year and i really don't see us re-signing J.Brisker so that's 6 starters that could be gone after next year.

Edit: Is Billings also a free agent after next year? I think he is so that would be 7 starters that could be gone after next year.

 

[bearsfan1977]

Gm can do whatever they want, it's his first year. The ownership has already shown to be impatient and impulsive. Very few nfl teams have patience with gms/coaches.

Yeah, I agree with you. Just saying if I were the GM, I’d request a meeting with the owner and tell him trading the pick is much better for the franchise over staying put and taking Ward, and to stress the need to be patient. Obviously the owner can tell him to get lost though, and that he wants a QB now.

 

[HearshotKDS]

I could live with Jeanty at 10, and even talk myself into being comfortable with it. But moving up to 6 or god forbid higher to draft Jeanty would be a really tough sell for me personally.