Official Offseason Thread - CUBS edition

[Captain Obvious]

There are specific threads for specific discussion. Not every thread is to be about fielder. I made you a thread here to discuss fielder.

You trying to keep us on a specific topic is stupid. With any sports discussion, you move onto other things. If it is about baseball who cares?

 

[nwfisch]

Since this is the off-topic forum of sorts,

Captain Obvious, I ain't mad at cha.

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Though we disagree on Fielder, I ain't mad at cha.

 

[DewsSox79]

You trying to keep us on a specific topic is stupid. With any sports discussion, you move onto other things. If it is about baseball who cares?

you "obviously" dont understand.

NOT EVERY THREAD IS ABOUT FIELDER. stop playing stupid.

 

[Jntg4]

You trying to keep us on a specific topic is stupid. With any sports discussion, you move onto other things. If it is about baseball who cares?

In many cases the end result isn't about baseball and staying on topic is key for a forum that way unregistered users don't get deterred from signing up by my shit or your shit or anyone's shit or shit in general and they can actually read through it without having the same shit repeated in multiple topics that cause them to repetitively read the same shit.

 

[waldo7239117]

CO, go to PSD or something. It's good when your not posting. The threads arn't stupid (mostly your posts CO) and have a good discussion discussing the thread.

This is how I see this offseason goin':

1) Sign a big time 1B (Albert or Fielder) and 2 players.

OR

2) Re-sign Pena and sign 4 players to go along with him.

That's just how I see it.

 

[Captain Obvious]

you "obviously" dont understand.

NOT EVERY THREAD IS ABOUT FIELDER. stop playing stupid.

It's not like I come in and start talking about Fielder.

Maybe if you don't want shit to go offtopic, don't have your little ***** boys post stuff like randy wells for pujols. dont act like this is all me. and instead of bitching, just prove me wrong. use a group of metrics and wow me. or use anything to show me i am wrong.

In many cases the end result isn't about baseball and staying on topic is key for a forum that way unregistered users don't get deterred from signing up by my shit or your shit or anyone's shit or shit in general and they can actually read through it without having the same shit repeated in multiple topics that cause them to repetitively read the same shit.

sounds like a bullshit excuse to me. show me one forum where every thread stays on topic.

 

[Jntg4]

It's not like I come in and start talking about Fielder.

Maybe if you don't want shit to go offtopic, don't have your little ***** boys post stuff like randy wells for pujols. dont act like this is all me. and instead of bitching, just prove me wrong. use a group of metrics and wow me. or use anything to show me i am wrong.


sounds like a bullshit excuse to me. show me one forum where every thread stays on topic.

Okay, I will

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[CODE_BLUE56]

So just because those games happened in the playoffs, that means that he isn't clutch? No. That's not right at all.

Ramirez for his career w RISP has a .928 OPS. But those 6 games matter more...



Very good. You can do math.


Tom Brady had one bad game in the playoffs this year, that means he isn't clutch. Essentially that is what you are saying.

was reading this thread and i would like to pinpoint

that no he absolutely did not

29/45 299 yards 2 TDs is a bad game?

the jets offense and the patriots mishaps on D were mainly why the jets won..not necessarily brady's fault

sure,CO, you can ***** in my face about how this completely derives from the point

but if the evidence for a point you are trying to make isnt true, then that point in the argument is moot....is it not?

 

[nwfisch]

was reading this thread and i would like to pinpoint

that no he absolutely did not

29/45 299 yards 2 TDs is a bad game?

the jets offense and the patriots mishaps on D were mainly why the jets won..not necessarily brady's fault

sure,CO, you can ***** in my face about how this completely derives from the point

but if the evidence for a point you are trying to make isnt true, then that point in the argument is moot....is it not?

But 2003.

 

[dabynsky]

It was a terrible analogy to begin with. The better analogy is Barry Bonds who was viewed as a terrible postseason player until he played better in the 02 playoffs. Ramirez is unlucky in the sense that 6 of his worst games as a player came at the worst time. The thought that he could somehow control that is silly, and why I have been vehemently arguing against those that somehow think going back to the days when Willie Greene was the future at 3B for the Cubs would be better for this team now.

 

[nwfisch]

It was a terrible analogy to begin with. The better analogy is Barry Bonds who was viewed as a terrible postseason player until he played better in the 02 playoffs. Ramirez is unlucky in the sense that 6 of his worst games as a player came at the worst time. The thought that he could somehow control that is silly, and why I have been vehemently arguing against those that somehow think going back to the days when Willie Greene was the future at 3B for the Cubs would be better for this team now.

I'll agree to disagree there.

d3angels and CO

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

It was a terrible analogy to begin with. The better analogy is Barry Bonds who was viewed as a terrible postseason player until he played better in the 02 playoffs. Ramirez is unlucky in the sense that 6 of his worst games as a player came at the worst time. The thought that he could somehow control that is silly, and why I have been vehemently arguing against those that somehow think going back to the days when Willie Greene was the future at 3B for the Cubs would be better for this team now.

ramirez cant control his own hitting?

his arms are possessed?

sure baseball is more varied because of the nature of the game..but that doesnt mean you can completely disregard the fact that ramirez's lackluster production was caused by him mostly

 

[dabynsky]

ramirez cant control his own hitting?

his arms are possessed?

sure baseball is more varied because of the nature of the game..but that doesnt mean you can completely disregard the fact that ramirez's lackluster production was caused by him mostly

Ah do we think a bad 3 games is the fault of a player? Even the greatest players slump for 3 games. The idea that some character flaw caused Ramirez to underperform in that circumstance is silly.

 

[nwfisch]

Ah do we think a bad 3 games is the fault of a player? Even the greatest players slump for 3 games. The idea that some character flaw caused Ramirez to underperform in that circumstance is silly.

I don't think it's a character flaw. He played bad when the Cubs needed him the most.

They needed him more in the playoffs than the road to get there.

 

[dabynsky]

I don't think it's a character flaw. He played bad when the Cubs needed him the most.

They needed him more in the playoffs than the road to get there.

Okay, but you acknowledge the randomness of baseball correct? Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron, etc. all had bad 3 game series in their career. Doesn't mean they weren't great ballplayers. The fact that Ramirez's had some of the worst performances in the most important games is unforunate, but the idea that he didn't rise to the occasion is silly.

 

[2SeamHeat]

ramirez cant control his own hitting?

his arms are possessed?

sure baseball is more varied because of the nature of the game..but that doesnt mean you can completely disregard the fact that ramirez's lackluster production was caused by him mostly

Just to play devil's advocate here... but... could the opposing team's pitchers had anything to do with this at all?

 

[nwfisch]

Okay, but you acknowledge the randomness of baseball correct? Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron, etc. all had bad 3 game series in their career. Doesn't mean they weren't great ballplayers. The fact that Ramirez's had some of the worst performances in the most important games is unforunate, but the idea that he didn't rise to the occasion is silly.

The playoffs is the occassion though. 3 regular season games, I don't honestly care. 6 games when I only have about 12 to judge from, that's a fair sample size to say Ramirez didn't rise when the Cubs needed him most.

Those 07-08 teams needed Rammy. He disappeared like Casper the ghost, when needed the most.

 

[poodski]

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1922 WS Ruth had an OPS of 422.

He should be removed from the hall of fame.

And hell that WS was 5 games.

 

[dabynsky]

The playoffs is the occassion though. 3 regular season games, I don't honestly care. 6 games when I only have about 12 to judge from, that's a fair sample size to say Ramirez didn't rise when the Cubs needed him most.

Those 07-08 teams needed Rammy. He disappeared like Casper the ghost, when needed the most.

Ugh, you really think that if Ramirez tried harder or something that he could have done better?

 

[2SeamHeat]

I don't think it's a character flaw. He played bad when the Cubs needed him the most.

They needed him more in the playoffs than the road to get there.

Ehhh, but if he wasn't there during the road to the playoffs... there would have been no playoffs for the Cubs in either of those years... What's the point of having a roster full of Reggie Jacksons... if you don't make it to October?