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I'm confused if you are saying that Kosuke was or wasn't past his prime when he got to Chicago. I would have to say that Kosuke certainly fits the mold of guys past their prime when they got here. Unforunately he didn't have a couple of big years like Godzilla did. I remember all the reports that were saying how Kosuke was a cross between Ichiro and Matsui (good one not the terrible one). Ah what a difference 4 years makes.
Back to the topic of Darvish, if he is posted I would hope that the Cubs at least kick the tires. The Cubs have one of the stronger presences in the Asian market. So I would have to think that the team has at least kept tabs on him.
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Kosuke was pass his prime when he came to the MLB.
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That is what I figured, but it was just the way it was worded read weird to me. Anyways Darvish is very different than a lot of the guys that have come over. There is a lot of positives on him, but it is a risk with any guy coming across from Japan (though I would rate it a shade higher than AAA, ricecube).
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Yes, Darvish is younger than most of the Japanese who came to the MLB.
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Stop looking at paying big bucks to first base free agents. It's a bad move for the Cubs
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the cubs would be smart to just deal for lots of prospects and then be patient and then they would have a stocked farm system and a great young core
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Pujols yes prolly bad move cause of age. Fielder not bad cause he only 27. So if Cubs are ready to compete in 2-3 years he still be in his prime.
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Problem with prospects you never know if they will pan out. Look at PIT,KCR,TOR,CLE,SEA,OAK,FLA,HOU,so on and on..Think about it the best teams are teams that spend to win: NYY,BOS,PHI,
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We don't know what the "good" or "bad" moves are for the Cubs right now because we don't know whether they plan to contend or not.
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you have to find some moderation in between....the cubs are a big market but i dont think they have the ability to bring in the crop those three can...
tbh the farm system is a longer investment, but in the end you need that for your foundation...but of course since chicago is a big market..they should also be able to bring in free agents..but at this point not on the level of the three you mentioned considering the circumstances
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They are not close to being a legit contender. First basemen are also a dime a dozen relatively speaking
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But 1B of Fielder's caliber are not. While you can get 1B, the production at 1B is the highest out of all 10 positions(including P and DH). To be above average at 1B, you have to be really really good. a .800 OPS just isn't going to cut it. You are going to need a 900+ guy. Fielder is the only guy that fits that mold that is available or will be available in the next few years, sans the uber expensive Pujols.
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i want ricketts gone 
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i want ricketts gone
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The thing is the difference between the elite (Pujols) and the very good (Konerko) just isn't that great. I'm only breaking the bank for a guy like Alex Rodriguez when he played SS, or an Ivan Rodrigues (who by the way I feel is one of the all time most underpaid players ever). Someone so elite that the difference between him and #2 is miles. That's just not the case at first base.
Now I realize that a shortage of available guys at first base might cause a higher check, but that isn't the Cubs issue. They aren't that close to overpay for a guy at a plentiful position.
Guys in Fielder's class or above: Texeria, Gonzalez, Konerko (I think I can argue he's close, maybe slightly behind), Berkman, Pujols, Mourneau (when healthy), Votto, Howard
And that doesn't count the guys you might move to 1b to make room for others to play OF/3b positions
If I am the Cubs I am buying pitching and resigning Ramirez (who I think sucks, but that is another thread). I can live with Pena/LeHair (sp)/ Soriano at 1b
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I dont think we have any good free agents coming our way this off season. Tom Ricketts has done nothing but talk about drafting, and developing talent from within at the minor league level.
Please check out my story on Ryne Sandberg and the Cubs Managerial position and comment with your thoughts, thank you!
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/8...e-chicago-cubs
I dont think we have any good free agents coming our way this off season. Tom Ricketts has done nothing but talk about drafting, and developing talent from within at the minor league level.
Please check out my story on Ryne Sandberg and the Cubs Managerial position and comment with your thoughts, thank you!
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/8...e-chicago-cubs
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