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Kershaw can opt out after 2018 and if he continues to be Kershaw you would expect him to do just that. I'd take that rotation
Kershaw can opt out after 2018 and if he continues to be Kershaw you would expect him to do just that. I'd take that rotation
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So if its truly an honor thing they'll do it next year, otherwise it would appear he won't get posted until the very last chance assuming the posting fee stays at $20 million.
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Kershaw can opt out after 2018 and if he continues to be Kershaw you would expect him to do just that. I'd take that rotation
Not even the Cubs can afford that lineup
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2 pitching contracts over $250 mil each? No I wouldn't think so but it's fun to dream. I would gladly settle for Otani.
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Always good to dream. I dreamed of all Cubs merchandise at Jewel Osco being discounted to $1 to be used to start my fire pit. The smiles were not so big from Jewel.
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Too early to worry about 2 offseasons in the future.
So we are cutting costs at the end of 2017. "Check". I.e. Boyer saying door not shut on Fowler is lip service. Real goal is to drop a chunk of payroll and long terming a CF works against it.
Then CF. Who is hitting better gets the time. About time this method have been used.
I'm fine with this stuff. It pretty much is putting things into context.
Jake gone.
Archer or other type most likely not traded for.
Most likely trading Soler. He can opt to arb soon and it is a good time to move on. Think him for Doolittle. That would give a power lefty in the pen with Edwards.
They did that i would be sated until spring.
So we are cutting costs at the end of 2017. "Check". I.e. Boyer saying door not shut on Fowler is lip service. Real goal is to drop a chunk of payroll and long terming a CF works against it.
Then CF. Who is hitting better gets the time. About time this method have been used.
I'm fine with this stuff. It pretty much is putting things into context.
Jake gone.
Archer or other type most likely not traded for.
Most likely trading Soler. He can opt to arb soon and it is a good time to move on. Think him for Doolittle. That would give a power lefty in the pen with Edwards.
They did that i would be sated until spring.
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I'm not sure where you get cost cutting after 2017. They're basically not spending much this year to be able to go after pitching next offseason. That makes sense. I also don't see that they're closing the door on trading for pitching. They've stated numerous times that are always looking for pitching. I still think it's unlikely they trade for pitching this offseason if for no other reason that one of Schwarber, Baez or Happ would be required to make it happen. As fans I think we're all on board with not trading Scharber or Baez but would probably part with Happ, the FO gets paid to sustain a winning team though and is thinking long term. Whether they get pitching this year or not but go after Otani or other starting pitching after the season, then I'm good.
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Arrieta, Lackey, Strop, Jay off the books
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Right but they could spend that money on Otani or Darvish or whomever.
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Of course they could afford it and it wouldn't even be that hard to imagine. They swap Heyward's contract for Kershaw, they swap Arrieta/Lackey/Hammel for Otani/Hendricks/Cease and it's no different than what they did this year. The arb guys get raises with the money you're paying Montero/Jackson/Fowler/Rondon/Strop/Wood/Cahill/Richard this year and you don't have a worry about payroll until 2022 when Rizzo, Bryant, Russell, Schwarber all become FA but who the hell knows who the Cubs will have in six years in the pipeline. Maybe they keep those guys and they're still fine because they'll have all that cable TV money + new hotel money saved up from 2019.
I mean the Cubs are going to spend 90 million this year on a starting rotation and a starting RF; not sure why they can't spend that in three years on the same group of players.
I also doubt Clayton Kershaw, as good as he is, gets a 10/250 deal starting age 31. If he at all considers the Cubs, it's because he wants to win a WS. Is a guy who has already made 165 million just in baseball salaries alone going to really demand the Cubs pay him 100% of his market rate? And fine, don't make it Kershaw but even Garret Richards, that would still be a fantastic team and easily affordable.
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How do you swap Heywards contract for anything?
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he has an opt out and his last five years (5/106 guaranteed) make it that any sort of career progression to the mean and he probably takes a long term deal then. I mean maybe he doesn't and the Cubs are slightly limited with what they do but it wouldn't be that hard to move him and eat part of the salary. I bet a TON of teams would take Heyward at 5/80 in 2019 if the Cubs threw in basically a year of salary for free (spread over the five years).
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Nonsense. No one is taking his salary at anywhere near $20M. He has become the joke of MLB and numerous scouts say he has the worst swing in the league. Given that he got worse over the course of the season there is no indication that he will get better next year. So one of the key premises of your previous post hangs on shit that is unlikely to happen
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Just keep raising beer prices.
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I think it's more likely that he fixes his swing and becomes the player they expected. Or do you think players can't bounce back from down years? He's already done it once before.
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One, two teams have traded for Matt Kemp the past 24 months so I refuse to believe teams won't invest in players who are bad.
Two, Heyward had multiple bidders one off-season ago to pay him 8+ years and 200+ million yet now the Cubs would struggle to find someone to pay half that after one year?
Three, there is plenty of time for a MLB hitter to change his swing and become a different player at an older age.
Four, plenty of bad players have had a bad season and then rebounded even in the middle of their careers.
You simply can't speak to the future by saying one season is completely predictive of his future. I'm not betting on him being 2015 Heyward when I say he'll potentially opt out or have some trade value; I'm saying that the first six years of his career obviously happened and likely didn't have Heyward become a completely different player in terms of his hitting.
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Again, MLB scouts are saying he has the worst swing in baseball. I'm dealing with what I see, you are dealing in hope
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Yeah. You state things as fact then when called on it you give us the "it can happen logic". And dogs can fly....it can happen
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Quotes and references or I am going to start deleting your post.
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Has he had the worst swing in baseball his whole career?