Offseason rumors/discussion thread

[CSF77]

Was thinking:

A.J. Ellis as back up and vet.
Andrew Miller as the big investment. Strop closes with Miller and Cishek setting up.

OF: Pass. They have Happ. Pointless unless they trade him.

UI: José Reyes would be tempting if he has nothing on the table. 2M would be the highest I would go with him.

I believe most F/A SS will surpass his asking price.

 

[JimJohnson]

Why are we paying Theo $10 mil if we're so constrained financially?

 

[beckdawg]

UI: José Reyes would be tempting if he has nothing on the table. 2M would be the highest I would go with him.

Not sure signing a guy with a DV issue is the greatest look when you already have one on the roster...

 

[chibears55]

Not sure signing a guy with a DV issue is the greatest look when you already have one on the roster...

Thought that too about Familia who I saw that they may be interested in..

 

[chibears55]

I'm gonna take the road of Theo statement yesterday as him letting the fans know that in order to bring in players of significant to upgrade the team in certain areas, we may see some of the young players being moved that are fans favorites..
Also the obvious moves of trading the bigger contracts of Heyward and Chatwood ..
There probably no significant signing without moving 1 or both those guys

Contreras
Russell
Schwarber
Heyward
Happ
Chatwood

 

[JimJohnson]

I'm gonna take the road of Theo statement yesterday as him letting the fans know that in order to bring in players of significant to upgrade the team in certain areas, we may see some of the young players being moved that are fans favorites..
Also the obvious moves of trading the bigger contracts of Heyward and Chatwood ..
There probably no significant signing without moving 1 or both those guys

Contreras
Russell
Schwarber
Heyward
Happ
Chatwood

Why the **** would the Cubs trade Contreras? What the **** dude?

 

[CSF77]

Not sure signing a guy with a DV issue is the greatest look when you already have one on the roster...

Lesser known. I was looking over most and these guys are coming off 6M payments in 2018. None really stand out. To be real here I would rather pay 6M on Billy and move him around as needed. Then sign a back up catcher like Ellis.

Bench:

Billy: 2B/SS/CF
Catarini: 1B/C/test as corner OF and 3B.
Ellis: C
Happ: OF/3B

After that you target Miller.

Strop
Miller
Cishek

Main 7-9 set up squad in save situations.

Then you are stuck with Chatwood, Kintzler and Duesing. So these guys are non save situational.

After that last 2 spots Montgomery and Edwards.

Ryan is on a MLB deal so he would be in battle with Duesing for a roster spot. Morrow returning would put Edwards and Kintzler in battle. But the old injury bug may fix that issue also.

 

[chibears55]

Cubs supposedly looking into FA reliever Joakim Soria

 

[chibears55]

Why the **** would the Cubs trade Contreras? What the **** dude?

Because they were supposedly looking into Realmuto.....

I'm not saying their going to or have to trade all those guys, just listed the ones that are most likely to be traded if they go that route...

 

[CSF77]

Because they were supposedly looking into Realmuto.....

I'm not saying their going to or have to trade all those guys, just listed the ones that are most likely to be traded if they go that route...

It would have been a strait trade. But The value is questionable. Contreras slumped but is the better hitter. Realmuto is a avg athlete back there. Contreras is superb. So it comes down to framing.

2 vs 4 years control.

I would get signing Grandal and then using Contreras in a mega to off load contracts. Grandal is the top framer in baseball and can hit for power

 

[JimJohnson]

It would have been a strait trade. But The value is questionable. Contreras slumped but is the better hitter. Realmuto is a avg athlete back there. Contreras is superb. So it comes down to framing.

2 vs 4 years control.

I would get signing Grandal and then using Contreras in a mega to off load contracts. Grandal is the top framer in baseball and can hit for power

I don't think it's worth it. Contreras is a good fit for the team, chemistry wise. He was an all-star last season for God's sake.

 

[Omeletpants]

I don't think it's worth it. Contreras is a good fit for the team, chemistry wise. He was an all-star last season for God's sake.

And he has hands of stone under pressure

 

[CSF77]

If you can use him to leverage Heyward out and add Grandal. Basically you shave 8 AAV per year. I don’t see it being enough to add Harper but it is a start.

 

[anotheridiot]

How about we lay off stealing pitches and have the pitchers hit the fucking corners and be happy you have a cannon back there to pick off runners and throw out base stealers.

 

[beckdawg]

What about Jacoby Ellsbury in a bad contract swap? Not sure the Yankees would want Chatwood/Kintzler/Duensing but if you dealt those 3 for Ellsbury and say $10 mil in cash it would be mostly luxury tax neutral. Ellsbury wouldn't be amazing by any means but as a lefty hitting bench bat who can play CF and provide some vet experience he wouldn't be terrible. For example, he hit .264/.348/.402 in 2017. He would pair well with Almora who's obvious issue has always been RHP. Ellsbury has hit .287/.346/.434 vs RHP on his career. He also stole 22 bases in 112 games in 2017 so he'd give you a little speed off the bench.

I'm not entirely sure where he is health wise as he missed all of 2018 but he'd be another guy I wouldn't mind having in a way to get rid of Chatwood.

 

[Castor76]

I was reading an ESPN article suggesting the Cubs trade Schwarber plus others for Kluber. Not sure why the Cubs would want to do that unless they could package at least some of their bad/high money contracts with them.

 

[CSF77]

What about Jacoby Ellsbury in a bad contract swap? Not sure the Yankees would want Chatwood/Kintzler/Duensing but if you dealt those 3 for Ellsbury and say $10 mil in cash it would be mostly luxury tax neutral. Ellsbury wouldn't be amazing by any means but as a lefty hitting bench bat who can play CF and provide some vet experience he wouldn't be terrible. For example, he hit .264/.348/.402 in 2017. He would pair well with Almora who's obvious issue has always been RHP. Ellsbury has hit .287/.346/.434 vs RHP on his career. He also stole 22 bases in 112 games in 2017 so he'd give you a little speed off the bench.

I'm not entirely sure where he is health wise as he missed all of 2018 but he'd be another guy I wouldn't mind having in a way to get rid of Chatwood.

Not against it

 

[CSF77]

I was reading an ESPN article suggesting the Cubs trade Schwarber plus others for Kluber. Not sure why the Cubs would want to do that unless they could package at least some of their bad/high money contracts with them.

Cubs are ranked #9 on MLB for rotation. Indians #1. That trade would push for he Cubs up to top 3 in baseball

I could see it if they target Brantley and then center a package for Kluber around Schwarber. After that you decide which of the 5 SP you trade. Q is most likely the target.

I wouldn’t bother with this myself. Too many moving pieces.

 

[Castor76]

Was thinking a little more about a trade with Cleveland. I wonder if the Tribe would go for Kluber and Kipnis for Schwarber, Happ, Heyward, Hamels, and a farm piece. Cleveland gets a slugger who'd done well there, Happ's versatility, the 8 years combined control for the two, Heyward would actually be an upgrade from what they got last year in RF, and Hamels to fill the rotation slot. Cubs get s TOR qith two more years of control after this one, take Kipnis off Cleveland's hands and about 15M in payroll relief.

 

[beckdawg]

Was thinking a little more about a trade with Cleveland. I wonder if the Tribe would go for Kluber and Kipnis for Schwarber, Happ, Heyward, Hamels, and a farm piece. Cleveland gets a slugger who'd done well there, Happ's versatility, the 8 years combined control for the two, Heyward would actually be an upgrade from what they got last year in RF, and Hamels to fill the rotation slot. Cubs get s TOR qith two more years of control after this one, take Kipnis off Cleveland's hands and about 15M in payroll relief.

Cubs aren't trading Hamels. they literally just picked up his option meaning they want him back.