Offseason

[Spunky Porkstacker]

The reason the nuclear option has been so rarely used over the past few years is precisely because putting too much of your scoring threat on a single line makes it too easy to counter. This is, apparently, news to you. As for your laughably irrelevant comparisons to completely different sports, they are literally some of worst sports thoughts that could conceivably come out of a legally competent adult. It's frightening, really.

Nah, Kane, Panarin and AA will not be broken up regardless of whatever you think. You say it's easy for the opponent to counter, so why didn't any of the opponents stop Kane from his most productive season yet? They didn't really shut down Panarin either...they knew it was coming. That line will be better this year. I'm sure Q will put Kane and Panarin with Toews at times but that won't be permanent and won't result in the production of the Kane, Panarin and AA line.

Also I used the other sports reference because your overkill theory sounds that ridiculous.

 

[ytsejam]

I've heard rumblings that Campbell took the not hometown discount because he's getting 5mil from Kane when he gives him the 2010 Cup winning goal puck back. He's had it the whole time.

 

[HawkWriter]

http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-blackhawks/blackhawks-place-david-rundblad-buyout-waivers

Rundblad to get bought out.

 

[fatbeard]

http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-blackhawks/blackhawks-place-david-rundblad-buyout-waivers

Rundblad to get bought out.

Not necessarily. He was placed on buyout waivers, which means it could also be a mutual temrination. That wouldn't result in any cap penalty.

 

[HawkWriter]

Not necessarily. He was placed on buyout waivers, which means it could also be a mutual temrination. That wouldn't result in any cap penalty.

While mutual termination may be true (or even simply not buying him out), Lazerus was quoted saying that he asked why Bowman is buying out Rundblad and Bowman said something to the effect of "he wants a fresh start".

 

[ClydeLee]

While mutual termination may be true (or even simply not buying him out), Lazerus was quoted saying that he asked why Bowman is buying out Rundblad and Bowman said something to the effect of "he wants a fresh start".

Him saying that if true sure sounds like agreed leaving and Bowman also said something I saw a tweet quote of like, he expects to see Rundblad back in the nhl in a couple years... which sounds like his sights are to sign in Europe. Probably wants to go to the KHL or sel not like the on loanes swiss league team he was at.

Where he should be and probably cam be a good offensive defenseman. Just look up Cam Barker this past year he had a great KHL season.

 

[DMelt36]

Also:

 

[The Hawk]

Cuz who the **** is gonna play with Toews?

Our 1st line will be hobbled Hossa, Toews, and a revolving door of 1LWs

Breaking up Kane and Panarin makes no sense. the pressure that those guys place on the opposing team is incredible. If you have a line like that, you feed it red meat not break it up. Yeah you can mix these guys up a bit in the game but keep those guys together. Toews needs to step things up and Hossa needs to get a bit lucky.

 

[DMelt36]

Nah, Kane, Panarin and AA will not be broken up regardless of whatever you think. You say it's easy for the opponent to counter, so why didn't any of the opponents stop Kane from his most productive season yet? They didn't really shut down Panarin either...they knew it was coming. That line will be better this year. I'm sure Q will put Kane and Panarin with Toews at times but that won't be permanent and won't result in the production of the Kane, Panarin and AA line.

Also I used the other sports reference because your overkill theory sounds that ridiculous.

I think that line definitely stays together in the regular season, especially if it clicks as well as it did last year. That one line can probably carry them to one of the top seeds in the division, if needed. But in the playoffs, if they don't get enough scoring from some of the other lines, they're may have to explore moving some of those pieces around.

It's only July 2nd and it feels like we already know what's going to make or break the Hawks' upcoming season: whether or not they get adequate production outside of that one scoring line.

 

[The Hawk]

I think that line definitely stays together in the regular season, especially if it clicks as well as it did last year. That one line can probably carry them to one of the top seeds in the division, if needed. But in the playoffs, if they don't get enough scoring from some of the other lines, they're may have to explore moving some of those pieces around.

It's only July 2nd and it feels like we already know what's going to make or break the Hawks' upcoming season: whether or not they get adequate production outside of that one scoring line.

I agree. Getting Campbell made the team better but in order for them to win the Cup guys like Toews and Hoss need to have better seasons. Maybe the additional rest after the first round exit will help a bit? At least I hope so.

 

[fatbeard]

Breaking up Kane and Panarin makes no sense. the pressure that those guys place on the opposing team is incredible. If you have a line like that, you feed it red meat not break it up. Yeah you can mix these guys up a bit in the game but keep those guys together. Toews needs to step things up and Hossa needs to get a bit lucky.

So you're comfortable signing Panarin to a 7mil AAV extension without knowing what he's capable of producing sans Kane next to him? It seems like a remarkably foolish thing to do to me.

 

[ClydeLee]

Yes... because there's no way really to not because I'd want to sign him to a deal if doable before the season so him playing with or without Kane is fine.

And he even produced without him in some key playoff points

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[Raskolnikov]

Panarin can obviously play. I feel like Ladds deal at 5.5 was a steal comparted to Shaw at 4.5.

Panarin is an international superstar though.

I want to break them up more to see them figure out how to spark their own lines. They both hold the puck and play so similar...sure its a great goto to have in the playoffs, put them together and on the powerplay. Its awesome they have that chemistry. But I'd rather see two awesome lines than 1.

I say give Kane Anisimov, and try giving Toews Panarin to begin the season for a while. That solves 1LW definitevly, could get Hossa going, and its much easier to find a player compatible with Kane/AA than it is either Panarin or Toews.

Panrin-Toews-Hossa
Schmaltz-AA-Kane
Baun/Motte-Ras-Hartman
Desjardins-Kruger-Mashinter


We have some problems.

Q gonna Q anyway, it doesn't really matter as all combos will be tried.

I think Q was hesitant to change that line with Kane trying for the historic American season, he gave Kane every assist last year, but we need Toews back.

Panarin-Toews-Hossa should work.

you know that second line will work.

Pan + Kane on powerplay to limit those cross ice passes for greatest effect.

 

[Tater]

Panarin can obviously play. I feel like Ladds deal at 5.5 was a steal comparted to Shaw at 4.5.

Panarin is an international superstar though.

I want to break them up more to see them figure out how to spark their own lines. They both hold the puck and play so similar...sure its a great goto to have in the playoffs, put them together and on the powerplay. Its awesome they have that chemistry. But I'd rather see two awesome lines than 1.

I say give Kane Anisimov, and try giving Toews Panarin to begin the season for a while. That solves 1LW definitevly, could get Hossa going, and its much easier to find a player compatible with Kane/AA than it is either Panarin or Toews.

Panrin-Toews-Hossa
Schmaltz-AA-Kane
Baun/Motte-Ras-Hartman
Desjardins-Kruger-Mashinter


We have some problems.

Q gonna Q anyway, it doesn't really matter as all combos will be tried.

I think Q was hesitant to change that line with Kane trying for the historic American season, he gave Kane every assist last year, but we need Toews back.

Panarin-Toews-Hossa should work.

you know that second line will work.

Pan + Kane on powerplay to limit those cross ice passes for greatest effect.

I like those ideas. Unless Q has something else up his sleeve or there's more trades made.
Those lines could always be tried out mid-season if the offense sputters.

 

[HawkWriter]

PA Parenteau signed with the Isles for 1 year at 1.25mil. Thought he could have been on the Blackhawks radar to fill a spot in the top 6. Once again, not a perfect fit but he does have a nice skill set and obviously whoever the Blackhawks pick up now isn't going to be perfect really.

 

[HawkWriter]

http://www.tsn.ca/free-agency-day-2-who-s-left-1.519782

The top remaining free agents as of July 2nd.

 

[Tater]

http://www.tsn.ca/free-agency-day-2-who-s-left-1.519782

The top remaining free agents as of July 2nd.

Lots of overpriced 30+ year olds on that list.

 

[Raskolnikov]

Is it possible to sign Gagner or Fleishmann do you think?

Would you want to and at how much?

Let's assume we are going to win the Vesey (Wing/Harvard) lottery and are one of the two teams promising top 6 showcase. I heard we were favorite in that. Would be huge. And Schmaltz then slots to third line if he can't displace Hossa.

I'd love to get Gagner/Fleishmann at 3.5 each though.

Pan-Toews-Hossa
Vesey-AA-Kane
Fleishmann-Gagner-Schmaltz
Desjardins-Kruger-Baun/Motte/Hartman/Mashinter/Ras

 

[Tater]

But where does the cap space come from to sign those guys?

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

Is it possible to sign Gagner or Fleishmann do you think?

Would you want to and at how much?

Let's assume we are going to win the Vesey (Wing/Harvard) lottery and are one of the two teams promising top 6 showcase. I heard we were favorite in that. Would be huge. And Schmaltz then slots to third line if he can't displace Hossa.

I'd love to get Gagner/Fleishmann at 3.5 each though.

Pan-Toews-Hossa
Vesey-AA-Kane
Fleishmann-Gagner-Schmaltz
Desjardins-Kruger-Baun/Motte/Hartman/Mashinter/Ras

Fleishman's contract for last year was 750 K and you want to give him 3.5 mil ?

I would'nt mind Gagner but he costs too much.