Okay. So we Rebuild. So what is your Plan?

[Alpha Male]

Agreed. Build through the draft. That starts with gaining more picks through trades. That'll mean potentially trading guys like Gasol, Gibson, Noah, Mirotic, and Snell whether people like it or not.

I'd keep mirotic. Everyone else you listed can go. There should be no untouchables besides butler.

 

[czman]

If you are going to rebuild you have to do it right, or just try to get a top FA and keep most of the parts now. Assuming you can't get KD, here we go.

Tade Butler for 2 first round picks. Trade rose (I think you can give 3 million in a trade so send some money to make the team feel better) take a 2021 first round pick. I get a first rounder don't care how far out. Trade Gibson and Mcdermott for a first, don't care how far out. Let Noah walk in FA. Trage Gasol for a future first, don't care how far out.

Suck for 3 years getting top picks.

Have plenty of money and young players to rebuild. Hope you get lucky and get the next great player.

I know everyone loves Butler, but he is not worth keeping through a rebuild. Honestly, no one on this roster is.

The Bulls will never do it though. Too much money making the playoffs and selling out every season.

 

[Enasic]

If you are going to rebuild you have to do it right, or just try to get a top FA and keep most of the parts now. Assuming you can't get KD, here we go.

Tade Butler for 2 first round picks. Trade rose (I think you can give 3 million in a trade so send some money to make the team feel better) take a 2021 first round pick. I get a first rounder don't care how far out. Trade Gibson and Mcdermott for a first, don't care how far out. Let Noah walk in FA. Trage Gasol for a future first, don't care how far out.

Suck for 3 years getting top picks.

Have plenty of money and young players to rebuild. Hope you get lucky and get the next great player.

I know everyone loves Butler, but he is not worth keeping through a rebuild. Honestly, no one on this roster is.

The Bulls will never do it though. Too much money making the playoffs and selling out every season.

Interesting. Sounds a lot like the 6ers blueprint.

 

[czman]

Interesting. Sounds a lot like the 6ers blueprint.

Or the Sonics/Thunder

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Rebuilding is a goddamn stupid idea. Retooling is a better idea.

Mirotic is worth keeping. But he's been a pretty mediocre player. He has no arc on his shot. Hopefully he sucks it up just enough that the Bulls won't be fooled into giving him too big of a contract before he improves (if he ever improves).

Gibson deserves to be a starter in this league.

Noah still has value on defense and on the glass.

Butler's pretty good.

Gasol's still a very good player.

Portis looks promising.

Shake things up. Make some trades.

 

[RC_Skinny22]

Rose
Butler
McDermott
Gibson
Noah
Hinrich
Portis

Maybe Moore

others can go ...

 

[Axl Rose]

blowing up and trading everybody with a pulse is a bad idea. look how good thats worked for Sixers. look how good that worked for 2000-era Bulls. okc is an outliner that lucked into 2 (technically 3) superstar players

we actually have a good foundation going forward. we have an all-star caliber player in Butler and 3 young guys with promise...however the old core needs to be shuffled out.

that means Gasol, Noah, Hinrich, Gibson, Rose and basically any player over the age of 28 can exit stage right (Snell you can join them) we aren't close enough to contention for those guys to make a difference

 

[Enasic]

Did I just read that Gibson deserves to be a starter in this league?

 

[czman]

blowing up and trading everybody with a pulse is a bad idea. look how good thats worked for Sixers. look how good that worked for 2000-era Bulls. okc is an outliner that lucked into 2 (technically 3) superstar players

Boston blew it up and started over.
The Heat blew it up to get Wade/Bosh/James.
Warriors tore it down to nothing and look at them now.
The Wizzards blew that mess up too.
Teams like the Clippers were never good but they build through picks.
Thunder.

It is much easier to go to nothing maximize your changes at the next great player and then build around that person. Great players on teams with a lot of cap space have been able to get other players to join.

 

[Axl Rose]

Boston blew it up and started over.
The Heat blew it up to get Wade/Bosh/James.
Warriors tore it down to nothing and look at them now.
The Wizzards blew that mess up too.
Teams like the Clippers were never good but they build through picks.
Thunder.

It is much easier to go to nothing maximize your changes at the next great player and then build around that person. Great players on teams with a lot of cap space have been able to get other players to join.

none of those teams started from scratch like Sixers/Bulls and had alteast one all-star type on the roster

Boston - Rondo (plus they got a huge haul for the big 3 that we wont get)
Miami - Wade (plus the big 3 was pre-arragined in advanced)
Warriors - Monta (then got Curry the first year they were terrible)
Wizards - lucked into(read: gifted) John Wall after the gun incident
Even the Thunder had KD secured before they traded Ray Allen

im not against building through picks but stripping the roster down to bare bones i don't think is a smart idea. atleast have one reputable player and a direction instead of just collecting picks

 

[Enasic]

there's no easy or quick fix in the nba. going bare bones only ensures you that you might have a chance at a top 10 pick. considering there's really only about 10 true franchise players in the league, hoping that

A. You'll be in position to get the number 1 pick and
B. There's actually a franchise player in that draft

basically equates to crossing your fingers and hoping you get lucky. i can't call relying on luck as a very good strategy. the nba really needs to dump the lottery and award teams draft position based on record. it's the only thing that makes sense.

 

[The Hawk]

You do not proceed like the Sixers did by getting rid of everyone. But you do have to begin by getting younger via trades and draft picks. This is where I do not think that they have the right guys in management to do it. It is not like that they are a bad team. Clearly they have some good talent but not enough of it nor is it balanced.

 

[The Hawk]

Did I just read that Gibson deserves to be a starter in this league?

Sure he does. He is a lot like Horace Grant in that regard. Both were/are warriors. Both were/are good rebounders. Both had a decent jump shot. When you think about it, if they had not traded for Gasol and instead by some means got a good SF/SG and moved Gibson into being a starting PF, this team would not as unbalanced as it is right now.

I am also not knocking Gasol at all. Just that the Bulls team changed in therms of its defense and the tempo of the offense. Think about it. The entire team slowed down because Gasol was not athletic enough to run the floor with the rest of them.

 

[RoseMVP1]

I think our best bet for future title contention is Anthony Davis coming home but even if he does it won't be for awhile.

 

[Diehardfan]

Hope and pray that Rose gets red hot for a few weeks leading into the deadline then dump him for 2nd round pick and be thankful you got that much.

 

[czman]

none of those teams started from scratch like Sixers/Bulls and had alteast one all-star type on the roster

Boston - Rondo (plus they got a huge haul for the big 3 that we wont get)
Miami - Wade (plus the big 3 was pre-arragined in advanced)
Warriors - Monta (then got Curry the first year they were terrible)
Wizards - lucked into(read: gifted) John Wall after the gun incident
Even the Thunder had KD secured before they traded Ray Allen

im not against building through picks but stripping the roster down to bare bones i don't think is a smart idea. atleast have one reputable player and a direction instead of just collecting picks

All of those teams turned over almost their entire roster in ~3 years. They all went though a total rebuild. You can caveat it anyway you want. They turned over almost the entire roster in 3 years. The only team that even kept a significant piece was the Heat. Everyone else let the best players go so they could better. I am sure there are more, that I am not thinking of now.

Unless you are the Spurs you need a top 5 player in the NBA to win it. The Bulls don't have one. The only real chance to get one they have is luck of the bouncing balls. If you are going for the bouncing balls you are better off going full shit mode. If not, just accept 2nd round out hell with no real chance at a ring.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Rose for Curry, straight up.

 

[Alpha Male]

Rose for Curry, straight up.

We couldn't get rose for cj watson straight up.

 

[Bear Pride]

1 title since 1998 is almost 2 decades.

Multiply this by 2 teams over 18 years=1 title in 36 years.

Almost two decades? LOL. Multiply by two and you have 36 years? LOL. Where the **** do some of you people come from? How about we just go back to 1990.... a measly 25 years ago, and the freakin 7 championships Reinsdorf won?

Do I need to point out, based on your expert analysis, that is a championship every 3.5 years? That kind of makes your point smell of douchebaggery, doesn't it?

LOL @ You! :lmao:

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

We couldn't get rose for cj watson straight up.

I meant Eddie Curry