OT: 2024 NCAA College Football Officail All-Encompassing (no run and shoot allowed) MEGA THREAD

[TL1961]

I-L-L, baby!!

 

[TL1961]

lol it’s because they don’t use only own metric to determine rankings. They use a composite score and SMU isn’t rated as high by the sagarin, FPI, and other metrics. This isn’t hard but some just want it to use their rankings to fit their narrative. But nice try tho.

The bottom line is, Notre Dame lost to a Mac team that is under .500 in its other games, and is not paying any price for it.

SMU lost to a Top 15 team. ND lost to a team not in the Top 100.

You just bounced 10-1 IU from playoff contention for losing at #2. But ND stays alive with a loss ten times as bad?

If ND's resume belonged to a team without ND's special treatment, that team would not even warrant mention in the playoff discussion.

 

[bamainatlanta]

The bottom line is, Notre Dame lost to a Mac team that is under .500 in its other games, and is not paying any price for it.

SMU lost to a Top 15 team. ND lost to a team not in the Top 100.

You just bounced 10-1 IU from playoff contention for losing at #2. But ND stays alive with a loss ten times as bad?

If ND's resume belonged to a team without ND's special treatment, that team would not even warrant mention in the playoff discussion.

lol. Look up SOVictory. Sorry but Indiana has zero wins against good teams. Again, I’m not sure you understand what “resume” or “composite” rankings that they use. They literally discuss their reasoning every week that they release the top 25 playoff rankings.

 

[bamainatlanta]

For those that don’t understand how the CFP rankings work(@TL1961 )

From ESPN:

Indiana: The one-loss Hoosiers could drop like BYU last week (which sank eight spots) and either fall out of the top 12 entirely or fall into the No. 12 spot and be displaced by the eventual fifth-highest-ranked conference champion. Indiana could land behind No. 11 Tennessee this week, which is the final two-loss SEC team in the committee’s top 12. The bigger question is if the Hoosiers fall below ACC leader SMU and the Big 12’s BYU. IU missed its opportunity to clinch a spot in the Big Ten title, and it might have just played its way out of the playoff. The selection committee pays attention to how games are won -- and lost -- and the lopsided score will be costly because IU doesn’t have anything to compensate for it. IU has no wins against ranked opponents, no wins against ranked teams, and their opponents’ winning percentage ranks No. 116. -- Heather Dinich

As I have stated before, I think it’s all a moot point as Army and/or USC likely upends ND these next 2 weeks.

 

[bamainatlanta]

Let’s go Minnesota!

 

[GSHSoldier]

Don’t sleep on Kansas? Basketball?

They are up 17-0

 

[remydat]

A lot of crying about rankings and who deserves what. In the end unless your team is undefeated you dont deserve anything more than what the Committee decides. If you dont want to leave it in their hands then dont lose.

 

[bamainatlanta]

A lot of crying about rankings and who deserves what. In the end unless your team is undefeated you dont deserve anything more than what the Committee decides. If you dont want to leave it in their hands then dont lose.

100% this. But the criteria for their rankings is not some secret. Some can’t grasp this and would rather whine, b*tch & moan about perceived injustices. Win and you’re in. Lose and they get to choose.

 

[TL1961]

lol. Look up SOVictory. Sorry but Indiana has zero wins against good teams. Again, I’m not sure you understand what “resume” or “composite” rankings that they use. They literally discuss their reasoning every week that they release the top 25 playoff rankings.

I’m not waving the flag for Indiana per se. I’m not an Indiana fan and I know they don’t have any great wins.

But Notre Dame is getting a lot of credit for beating a Texas A&M team before it found its quarterback.

Playing a lot of middling teams, none of which are great, and none of which are terrible can help your strength of schedule. But Notre Dame doesn’t have any great wins. Of course, neither do Penn State or Texas.

There is not another school in the country that could lose to northern Illinois and be ranked number six and getting a playoff bid.

 

[bamainatlanta]

I’m not waving the flag for Indiana per se. I’m not an Indiana fan and I know they don’t have any great wins.

But Notre Dame is getting a lot of credit for beating a Texas A&M team before it found its quarterback.

Playing a lot of middling teams, none of which are great, and none of which are terrible can help your strength of schedule. But Notre Dame doesn’t have any great wins. Of course, neither do Penn State or Texas.

There is not another school in the country that could lose to northern Illinois and be ranked number six and getting a playoff bid.

Well maybe maybe not but they use the composite computer rankings for their formula. ND had racked up a lot of blowout victories, which is what the computers love. We have basically gone back to the BCS system in which multiple score wins get a lot of love. (And yes I agree on PSU/Texas but that Illinois win is looking better for PSU). I just now realized Illinois won on that 4th & 13. I turned the channel

 

[Montucky]

It’s about timing. Had Indiana lost to Ohio State seven weeks ago then rattled off enough consecutive wins to be 10-1 they would be the sixth or seventh ranked team in the country and basically a shoe-in pending a win against Purdue.

 

[TL1961]

Illinois kicked on fourth and 13 into the heavy wind or with heavy crosswind, but the play had been blown dead because of a time out by rutgers.

They wisely then went for it on fourth and 13 and Pat Bryant caught it among four Rutgers defenders with another one between him and the end zone and none of them got close to touching him.

They needed that.

 

[TL1961]

Well maybe maybe not but they use the composite computer rankings for their formula. ND had racked up a lot of blowout victories, which is what the computers love. We have basically gone back to the BCS system in which multiple score wins get a lot of love. (And yes I agree on PSU/Texas but that Illinois win is looking better for PSU). I just now realized Illinois won on that 4th & 13. I turned the channel

A lot of fans are upset when they see coaches scoring, and running up the score or feeling like they’re running up the score. But I don’t blame any coach at this point due to the system.

But you have to admit it’s a fucked up system if Notre Dame doesn’t pay a penalty for losing to Northern, but gets extra credit for adding another late touchdown against one of their Patsy opponents.

 

[bamainatlanta]

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Just an amazing play. And Altmeyer is a legitimate mid round pick or better in 2026.

 

[bamainatlanta]

A lot of fans are upset when they see coaches scoring, and running up the score or feeling like they’re running up the score. But I don’t blame any coach at this point due to the system.

But you have to admit it’s a fucked up system if Notre Dame doesn’t pay a penalty for losing to Northern, but gets extra credit for adding another late touchdown against one of their Patsy opponents.

They have actually struggled in most games after the half. They hardly did anything to tech or Virginia in those wins. Their offense is very inconsistent and sputters a lot.

 

[Montucky]

I don’t see any way it’s not five SEC teams, three B1G teams, three conference champs (ACC, Big 12, MW) and Notre Dame. And really if Penn State loses to Minnesota I would say only two B1G teams. Unless Indiana lucks into a chance to redeem themselves against Oregon and pulls off the stunner.

 

[TL1961]

For those that don’t understand how the CFP rankings work(@TL1961 )

From ESPN:

Indiana: The one-loss Hoosiers could drop like BYU last week (which sank eight spots) and either fall out of the top 12 entirely or fall into the No. 12 spot and be displaced by the eventual fifth-highest-ranked conference champion. Indiana could land behind No. 11 Tennessee this week, which is the final two-loss SEC team in the committee’s top 12. The bigger question is if the Hoosiers fall below ACC leader SMU and the Big 12’s BYU. IU missed its opportunity to clinch a spot in the Big Ten title, and it might have just played its way out of the playoff. The selection committee pays attention to how games are won -- and lost -- and the lopsided score will be costly because IU doesn’t have anything to compensate for it. IU has no wins against ranked opponents, no wins against ranked teams, and their opponents’ winning percentage ranks No. 116. -- Heather Dinich

As I have stated before, I think it’s all a moot point as Army and/or USC likely upends ND these next 2 weeks.

You can keep saying I don’t get it and repeating that about Indiana, but I have said that myself. I understand the Indiana hasn’t played any top teams.

Actually, as an Illinois fan, who has watched his team play at Oregon and at Penn State I don’t see such a big difference between Indiana and Illinois. With the notable difference that Indiana beat the hell out of Nebraska.

So don’t get me wrong, I’m not crying that the Hoosiers are being treated unfairly. I agree that they by no means had proven they were the seventh best team before today. (Or were they ranked 5?) But somebody has to be there and they had not lost.

So you keep saying I don’t get how the whole thing works when I do.

But expecting a Bama fan to be anti-favoritism is asking a little much now, isn’t it?

 

[TL1961]

I am a fan of a team in the Big Ten and would seem to root for the Big Ten in theory anyway. (It’s hard to root for some members)

But even as I watch the teams in the SEC drop due to two losses, I know darn well they’ve got resumes that stack up with most anyone, especially Penn State and Indiana. Even Oregon is a little soft on who they have faced.

BTW, Penn State trails at halftime, and while I am no big fan of “coach row your boat” up in Minnesota, I would like to see the gophers win this.

 

[bamainatlanta]

You can keep saying I don’t get it and repeating that about Indiana, but I have said that myself. I understand the Indiana hasn’t played any top teams.

Actually, as an Illinois fan, who has watched his team play at Oregon and at Penn State I don’t see such a big difference between Indiana and Illinois. With the notable difference that Indiana beat the hell out of Nebraska.

So don’t get me wrong, I’m not crying that the Hoosiers are being treated unfairly. I agree that they by no means had proven they were the seventh best team before today. (Or were they ranked 5?) But somebody has to be there and they had not lost.

So you keep saying I don’t get how the whole thing works when I do.

But expecting a Bama fan to be anti-favoritism is asking a little much now, isn’t it?

I’m begrudgingly a Bama fan, I actually prefer Auburn better but most of that is due to consulting with them for the better part of 7 years. I’m in one of their field suites right now drinking

 

[bamainatlanta]

It’s about timing. Had Indiana lost to Ohio State seven weeks ago then rattled off enough consecutive wins to be 10-1 they would be the sixth or seventh ranked team in the country and basically a shoe-in pending a win against Purdue.

Good point. Seems a late season loss has more weight than an early season loss.