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Yep......this plus do you really put a career 500 QB into the HOF. Even with the rings he does not belong.
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He whooped ass with LT.
But from 09/10 on, he played in a phone booth.
beyond that, aside from Gates at te, he never had a shit ton of receivers. Jackson was servicable, but the Jackson/floyd combo success was more on Rivers than them. They amounted to nothing elsewhere.
going through the last decade with the lines he did was criminal, but he still manage to put together quite a few outstanding seasons.
... the bullshit about not moving to LA is where I was done watching him. Dude was travelling 6 hours round trip for practices and home games and it showed.
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Foles as well beat him
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And the 3rd best QB in his family too ... so far.
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So does Foles have one foot inside the Hall of Fame already?
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VJax was a beast. Floyd was good. Gates was a beast.
Let’s also not forget he played two years with Matt “carry the entire team” Slauson. That alone disqualifies all of Rivers ‘16 and ‘17 stats.
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Eli Manning is a mouthbreather. why you all have let this go unnoticed blows my mind.
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Honestly I hope he doesn't. My entire argument for keeping Aaron Rodgers out of the HoF is that he has fewer rings than Eli, who also doesn't deserve to get in.
With Eli in the HoF there is no argument I can make against Rodgers. He is just better than Eli in every way, and his single SB win is just so embarrassingly few for a guy of his talent
With Eli in the HoF there is no argument I can make against Rodgers. He is just better than Eli in every way, and his single SB win is just so embarrassingly few for a guy of his talent
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If Mitch won two super bowls would you vote him in? Right now Mitch has better QB metrics.
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You have to get stats over the span of a career. You don't just take average years on a 4 year career.
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Yeah but you have to adjust the metrics to the years they play. Eli was better among his peers than Mitch ever was with his.
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There is zero argument to not have Rodgers in the HOF. None. Anyone who even attempts to make such an argument shouldn't be taken seriously.
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Agreed. As much as I absolutely detest Rogers, he is a HOF no doubt. He has produced multiple MVP type seasons.
Eli vs his peers? I disagree. His absolute best year, 2015, where he turned in a 93.6 QBR, he was 13th in the league.
Guy also threw a ton of picks. 3% career INT percentage, that is just bad.
Eli vs his peers? I disagree. His absolute best year, 2015, where he turned in a 93.6 QBR, he was 13th in the league.
Guy also threw a ton of picks. 3% career INT percentage, that is just bad.
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Wrong.
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What annoys me is he didn’t beat anyone. That’s Giants defense carried him like a broken anchor
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Shouldn’t even sniff the HoF
Hester deserves to get in infinitely more than Eli
Hester deserves to get in infinitely more than Eli
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You need green text to see an obvious joke?
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From a statistical standpoint, he simply is not a HOF'er. You have to compare him against his peers during the same era.
From Eli's 2nd season to his 15th season, he placed, on average, ~20th in QB rating in the league, ~19th in completion percentage, and 10.5th in TDs thrown. So overall, based on those 3 categories, you can say that more than half the league's QBs were consistently better than Eli throughout his career (at least regarding completion percentage and rating.)
That simply isn't good enough.
BUT, as others have mentioned.... His iron man streak and two sensational playoff runs may elevate him to HOF status.
Personally, as an individual player, I'm not sure that he deserves it. But I think he may make it, though it may take 10+ years to get in.
From Eli's 2nd season to his 15th season, he placed, on average, ~20th in QB rating in the league, ~19th in completion percentage, and 10.5th in TDs thrown. So overall, based on those 3 categories, you can say that more than half the league's QBs were consistently better than Eli throughout his career (at least regarding completion percentage and rating.)
That simply isn't good enough.
BUT, as others have mentioned.... His iron man streak and two sensational playoff runs may elevate him to HOF status.
Personally, as an individual player, I'm not sure that he deserves it. But I think he may make it, though it may take 10+ years to get in.
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When you are the only QB to Deny Brady two Superbowls, I think that is HOF worthy in of itself.
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Okay, but we are talking about Eli Manning, not the giants defense.