OT: Justin Fields Signs With NY Jets, Darnold/Seahawks, Stafford/Rams, Geno Smith/Raiders, Carr/Saints

[dennehy]

Not that his stats are impressive but you have to understand that the average yards per game is bullshit because he appeared in 4 games to run a gadget play; therefore his total passing yards should be divided by 6 and not 10. I’m kind of surprised that when you add the rushing yards and passing yards, Wilson really wasn’t that much better overall. Both QB’s are getting them nowhere. They are looking at a ceiling of the 7seed and an another embarrassing exit from the laid playoffs.

He averaged like 180 ypg passing in his starts.

 

[Moses Moreno]

They might trade Wilson, there have been rumors about him being moved since they are going to start over again. It seems to be unlikely though since he is happy with the Glenn hire

He's good now. They're looking to be competitive from the jump.

He averaged like 180 ypg passing in his starts.

He threw for 312 yards against Indy when they needed to throw to come back and in their wins they basically got the lead and sat on the ball. The Eagles just won the Super Bowl with Hurts averaging 191 ypg throwing. It's a great formula if you can pull it off.

 

[dennehy]

He's good now. They're looking to be competitive from the jump.


He threw for 312 yards against Indy when they needed to throw to come back and in their wins they basically got the lead and sat on the ball. The Eagles just won the Super Bowl with Hurts averaging 191 ypg throwing. It's a great formula if you can pull it off.

If you have a top 3 OL, a top 3 defense, top 10 WRs, and the best RB in the league, yes you can win lots with an average QB.

But I wouldn't call it a great formula. It's an anomaly to be that well-rounded, to avoid injuries etc.

 

[Luke]

He averaged like 180 ypg passing in his starts.

which is on par with his career avg of 175 ypg over his 44 starts.
add in his 45 td's/ 30 ints, 61% completions, 84.5 rating and you have a solid backup qb.

 

[bamainatlanta]

He averaged like 180 ypg passing in his starts.

Correct. Not the 110. Wilson was better but he also compiled some garbage stats at the end of the year when they weren’t so competitive.

 

[Moses Moreno]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1894040057796809198

The contracts that are handed out this off-season will not be small.

 

[Toast88]

Thank you. I was hoping someone with comprehension skills would weigh in.

I get you now, but to be fair, this wasn't super clear. That's why I was asking.

TL1961 said:
So Pittsburgh goes into 2025 and tells this to their fan base:

“Last year we signed two quarterbacks.

The argument in favor of signing them was their low salaries.

One of the two clearly won the quarterback job over the other, yet with the better QB playing, we were not truly contenders.

This year we’ve decided to go into the season with the man who lost the quarterback battle.

We will pay him significantly more than we paid the two of them together last year and we still need to find a back up quarterback and pay him, too.

We feel we have a chance to win nine games and maintain our non-losing season streak, which will justify keeping the head coach who hasn’t won a playoff game in 10 years.“

 

[Toast88]

But you didn't need to insult.

It's sad that that's the default on message boards.

A good rule of thumb is to treat people the same on message boards as you would in-person. I guarantee you if most CCS'ers were talking Bears with a dude at the end of the bar and he said something they disagreed with, they wouldn't immediately launch into insults against the guy.

 

[Toast88]

He averaged like 180 ypg passing in his starts.

Like, at some point, you look at the very similar ways he's played for multiple different OCs and two different teams, and you think, maybe this is who he is? Maybe he's just not a very good passer? It's not a crime or an insult, it's just reality.

 

[GoDJtop10]

The Steelers fans seem to be supporting Justin Fields.​

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Steelers fans to Wilson: ‘Thanks, but no thanks’​

“On Monday, the Steelers hit up their official Instagram handle and shared top pics of 2024. And let’s just say, they’re not happy with Russell Wilson being in the frame. The reason’s pretty simple, fans are rooting for the team to sign Justin Fields or should we say, they’re frustrated with Fields not getting a contract. One fan straight-up pleaded, “More pics of Fields and less of Russ, plz.” Like, the man doesn’t even want Wilson in pictures, let alone on the roster. Brutal.


Then there’s frustration hitting the peaks at this point with fans commenting, “How hard is it to re-sign Fields?” and the ever-so-subtle “Sign Fields.” Looks like the fans aren’t just asking right now, they’re literally begging at this point. And the message is loud and clear: sign Fields and move on from Wilson.”

Calls Mount Against Russell Wilson’s Steelers Return as Justin Fields Tipped to Replace Aaron Rodgers for ‘More Money’

The Steelers fans just don't want Russell Wilson as QB1 in 2025 but the rumors says the veteran may return to the Steel City.

www.essentiallysports.com

 

[msadows]

CCS still thinks passing yards are the end all be all?

The only thing that matters playing QB in the nfl is getting first downs and scoring points.

 

[GoDJtop10]

CCS still thinks passing yards are the end all be all?

The only thing that matters playing QB in the nfl is getting first downs and scoring points.

After someone pointed out that Jalen Hurts doesn’t average a lot of passing yards, another poster literally said that formula doesn’t work in the NFL, while completely ignoring that Jalen Hurts just won the Superbowl MVP award as he beat the back to back champion Kansas City Chiefs.

Can’t make this stuff up.

 

[dennehy]

After someone pointed out that Jalen Hurts doesn’t average a lot of passing yards, another poster literally said that formula doesn’t work in the NFL, while completely ignoring that Jalen Hurts just won the Superbowl MVP award as he beat the back to back champion Kansas City Chiefs.

Can’t make this stuff up.

I actually said that it's an anomaly, and that it can work if the QB has great talent everywhere else on the field, like Philadelphia.

But that usually great passing QBs win lots of game and super bowls, and ones that aren't great passers don't do as well.

This isn't really that difficult.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

1. Cube up some boneless/skinless chicken thighs (or breasts if you want), about 2 pounds.
2. Heat a large Dutch oven with some oil.
3. Pour chicken stock into a saucepan, put on medium heat.
4. Cook chicken in Dutch oven.
5. Set chicken aside.
6. Add diced onion, celery, garlic, and carrots into Dutch oven. Add more oil and some butter.
7. Cook until soft.
8. Add flour and small dab of tomato paste, stir. Throw in salt, black pepper, crushed red pepper, oregano, rosemary, and thyme
9. White wine to deglaze the pan.
10. Throw chicken back into pot, pour in warmed chicken stock.
11. Add wild rice.
12. Cook, covered, for ~30 minutes
13. Add a pint or so of heavy cream.
14. Cook covered for 20-25 minutes

 

[Moses Moreno]

I actually said that it's an anomaly, and that it can work if the QB has great talent everywhere else on the field, like Philadelphia.

But that usually great passing QBs win lots of game and super bowls, and ones that aren't great passers don't do as well.

This isn't really that difficult.

Some of the best offenses in the NFL over the past few years have been built through the running game.

Lions, Ravens, Eagles and Niners - the Ravens have Eagles have plus running QBs and elite RBs.

Imo that's what the Jets would be looking to replicate and if it works at a decently high level in 2025, Fields would have a long-term home there because they'd be good enough to approach .500 despite having an absurd dead cap number getting rid of Aaron and his friends. They have some really nice foundational pieces at key positions there.

 

[dennehy]

Some of the best offenses in the NFL over the past few years have been built through the running game.

Lions, Ravens, Eagles and Niners - the Ravens have Eagles have plus running QBs and elite RBs.

Imo that's what the Jets would be looking to replicate and if it works at a decently high level in 2025, Fields would have a long-term home there because they'd be good enough to approach .500 despite having an absurd dead cap number getting rid of Aaron and his friends. They have some really nice foundational pieces at key positions there.

Building through the running game is fine. Having a QB who is a mediocre passer is a detriment to an offense and worse than having a good passer. Is this really that difficult to grasp? The Bears had one of the best run games in the league for two years with Fields. But an overall meh offense.

Fields, for example, average 6.9 ypa and has always been meh in that regard. Hurts was 8.0 this year even though he didn't have a very good year. All of those QBs have numbers and analytics that bury Fields as a passer.

And like I said, if you have talent around them, then a QB who isn't as good at passing can still win games. But it's harder than having a one who is a good passer.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

1. Get a pork shoulder, somewhere between 3-5 pounds and trim that puppy up.
2. Mix kosher salt, black pepper, rosemary, oregano, basil, thyme, garlic salt, and onion powder.
3. Slap that spice mix all over the pork shoulder. Don't be shy with it.
4. Let it sit for a few hours or so.
5. Rough chop some onions, carrot, celery, maybe a bell pepper or two.
6. Put the veggies and pork in a dutch oven, cover about halfway up the pork with chicken stock.
7. In the oven, covered, at 350. We want the pork to be between 180-195.
8. Rest the pork for an hour. DO NOT TOUCH IT.
9. Put the cooked pork in the fridge. DO NOT DISCARD THE DUTCH OVEN CONTENTS.
10. Let the pork solid up a bit so it's easy to slice it thin. Throw the sliced pork back into the juices and veggies.
11. Rough chop some broccolini and long hots. Slice garlic.
12. Throw some olive oil in a pan, and throw the broccolini, long hots, and garlic into the pan. Saute and then squeeze a lemon over it.
13. Get a hoagie role, throw some provolone on the bottom, and some of the veggie mix, top with the pork and spoon some of the au jus from the Dutch oven onto the sandwich.

 

[bamainatlanta]

Building through the running game is fine. Having a QB who is a mediocre passer is a detriment to an offense and worse than having a good passer. Is this really that difficult to grasp?

Fields, for example, average 6.9 ypa and has always been meh in that regard. Hurts was 8.0 this year even though he didn't have a very good year. All of those QBs have numbers and analytics that bury Fields as a passer.

And like I said, if you have talent around them, then a QB who isn't as good at passing can still win games. But it's harder than having a one who is a good passer.

Philly has 2 #1 WR's, a damn good TE, an elite RB and one of the best Offensive lines in the league.

Steelers have some nice pieces but Freirmuth is a lesser TE than Goedert, Pickens is a talented but inconsistent headcase, the other receivers are basically 3rd to 4th WR's at best, Harris is nothing like Barkley, and their OL is not elite. The defense has some good but aging pieces and has nowhere near the depth that Philly has. Pittsburgh is in a hamster wheel for the foreseeable future. Whether they go with Fields or Wilson is basically a moot point, they likely end up with almost the same record. They really should just start over because they are going to be contending for a long time.

 

[dennehy]

Philly has 2 #1 WR's, a damn good TE, an elite RB and one of the best Offensive lines in the league.

Steelers have some nice pieces but Freirmuth is a lesser TE than Goedert, Pickens is a talented but inconsistent headcase, the other receivers are basically 3rd to 4th WR's at best, Harris is nothing like Barkley, and their OL is not elite. The defense has some good but aging pieces and has nowhere near the depth that Philly has. Pittsburgh is in a hamster wheel for the foreseeable future. Whether they go with Fields or Wilson is basically a moot point, they likely end up with almost the same record. They really should just start over because they arent going to be contending for a long time.

No doubt. I don't think Jalen Hurts would be more than a wild card level QB on PIT.

They are the NFL version of NBA purgatory.

 

[dennehy]

1. Get a pork shoulder, somewhere between 3-5 pounds and trim that puppy up.
2. Mix kosher salt, black pepper, rosemary, oregano, basil, thyme, garlic salt, and onion powder.
3. Slap that spice mix all over the pork shoulder. Don't be shy with it.
4. Let it sit for a few hours or so.
5. Rough chop some onions, carrot, celery, maybe a bell pepper or two.
6. Put the veggies and pork in a dutch oven, cover about halfway up the pork with chicken stock.
7. In the oven, covered, at 350. We want the pork to be between 180-195.
8. Rest the pork for an hour. DO NOT TOUCH IT.
9. Put the cooked pork in the fridge. DO NOT DISCARD THE DUTCH OVEN CONTENTS.
10. Let the pork solid up a bit so it's easy to slice it thin. Throw the sliced pork back into the juices and veggies.
11. Rough chop some broccolini and long hots. Slice garlic.
12. Throw some olive oil in a pan, and throw the broccolini, long hots, and garlic into the pan. Saute and then squeeze a lemon over it.
13. Get a hoagie role, throw some provolone on the bottom, and some of the veggie mix, top with the pork and spoon some of the au jus from the Dutch oven onto the sandwich.

Long hots are key.

I'd also make sure to keep the pork closer to 180 than 195 or it's going to fall apart rather than slice imo. 195 is for pulled pork or carnitas.