OT: Karl Malone would pick Pippen over Jordan

[scottiepippen1994]

I disagree that guys make it look easy. You cant tell in there facial expressions alone. Scottie was one of the most casual ball players I have ever seen, I wont talk for him but I bet he would admit that it was pretty easy for him.

I would star a team around a guy that can anything and everything on the court.

But I wont get into the argument of MJ vs Pip, its an unfair argument.

:clap:

It is unfair to compare Jordan to any player in history including Magic, Bird etc etc etc.
Jordans the greatest there ever was.

If there was no Jordan then Pip would stand out much more. It is what it is.

One thing we should all agree on is that MJ and Pip were probably the best 2 man punch in sports history........they were perfect together and I enjoyed the ride in which I feel blessed to have witnessed.

 

[BigP50]

:clap:

It is unfair to compare Jordan to any player in history including Magic, Bird etc etc etc.
Jordans the greatest there ever was.

If there was no Jordan then Pip would stand out much more. It is what it is.

One thing we should all agree on is that MJ and Pip were probably the best 2 man punch in sports history........they were perfect together and I enjoyed the ride in which I feel blessed to have witnessed.

Well its unfair to compare them because they were the 2 best players imo, but had 2 very different styles which makes it irrelevant imo. Its like comparing Stockton and Bill Russell. Both top players in the game, but there styles were just so different.

And best 1-2 punch might be an understatement..

 

[scottiepippen1994]

Well its unfair to compare them because they were the 2 best players imo, but had 2 very different styles which makes it irrelevant imo. Its like comparing Stockton and Bill Russell. Both top players in the game, but there styles were just so different.

And best 1-2 punch might be an understatement..

1-2 punch might be an understatement.

How about "Superman and Batman" ? :shrug:

Micheal Jordan being Superman because he seemed like he wasn't even human at times.

And Scottie being Batman because he wasn't subhuman like Jordan but very skilled with his tools.

Two different personalities. Very different and very much the same at the same time...

6 RINGS and could of been more had Jordan not retired in 93 to go back to the Planet Krypton.
Thanks a lot Mike.

 

[BigP50]

It was like Durant and LeBron teaming up, but better. Cant be topped.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

I disagree that guys make it look easy. You cant tell in there facial expressions alone.

lol they totally do

Scottie was one of the most casual ball players I have ever seen, I wont talk for him but I bet he would admit that it was pretty easy for him.

not being casual=/= not making the game look easy

I would star a team around a guy that can anything and everything on the court.

what if that player could do everything on the court..but did not excel in all of these abilities?

But I wont get into the argument of MJ vs Pip, its an unfair argument.

of course it is lol

 

[BigP50]

lol they totally do


not being casual=/= not making the game look easy



what if that player could do everything on the court..but did not excel in all of these abilities?

of course it is lol

1. I mean it may look easy because a fan watching cant do those things but I dont think they make it look easy. Especially if u play basketball, you know how hard it is to do those things, especially against top defense talent.

2. Yeah I know..

3. Players in the NBA can do everything, thats why there in the NBA, its the best players that EXCEL in multiple

4. Yeah lol

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

1. I mean it may look easy because a fan watching cant do those things but I dont think they make it look easy. Especially if u play basketball, you know how hard it is to do those things, especially against top defense talent.

that's my point lol

3. Players in the NBA can do everything, thats why there in the NBA, its the best players that EXCEL in multiple

not really...

plus you said players that can do everything, not players that do everything and excel in multiple categories

 

[clonetrooper264]

1. I mean it may look easy because a fan watching cant do those things but I dont think they make it look easy. Especially if u play basketball, you know how hard it is to do those things, especially against top defense talent.

Think very carefully about what you just said...

This is what making it look easy means. They do something that is extremely difficult (and it is probably difficult for them too) and make it LOOK effortless. That is, they do it so well and sometimes so consistently (like Ray Allen making 3 after 3 or Rose doing his signature windmill reverse layup) that it looks like a piece of cake for them.

 

[BigP50]

that's my point lol




not really...

plus you said players that can do everything, not players that do everything and excel in multiple categories

Yeah they can, they just dont do them because there are other players that are specialty players or just better at them..

 

[BigP50]

Think very carefully about what you just said...

This is what making it look easy means. They do something that is extremely difficult (and it is probably difficult for them too) and make it LOOK effortless. That is, they do it so well and sometimes so consistently (like Ray Allen making 3 after 3 or Rose doing his signature windmill reverse layup) that it looks like a piece of cake for them.

I know what im thinking, prolly just not putting it out there how Id like too. Like I played basketball in high school and got recruited by a few schools so I know what they do isnt easy. Like a lot goes into a play to make it look good, and I know thats tough.

When I think of a better way to say it I will hahaha

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Yeah they can, they just dont do them because there are other players that are specialty players or just better at them..

then that has no purpose in the NBA, so the fact that they can do everything is not why they are in the NBA

how we are specific with what players can do is important here...

adept basketball players who are not even close to being in the NBA can "do everything" as well

dwight howard "can" shoot a 3 pointer...can he shoot it well? **** no..he is a worse 3 point shooter then alot of players who are not even close to the NBA

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

I know what im thinking, prolly just not putting it out there how Id like too. Like I played basketball in high school and got recruited by a few schools so I know what they do isnt easy. Like a lot goes into a play to make it look good, and I know thats tough.

When I think of a better way to say it I will hahaha

the appearance of what they do is easy...that is completely different than what they actually do and the work that goes into it

 

[BigP50]

then that has no purpose in the NBA, so the fact that they can do everything is not why they are in the NBA

how we are specific with what players can do is important here...

adept basketball players who are not even close to being in the NBA can "do everything" as well

dwight howard "can" shoot a 3 pointer...can he shoot it well? **** no..he is a worse 3 point shooter then alot of players who are not even close to the NBA

Yeah but he can dominate at other skills like almost no one else can.

 

[BigP50]

the appearance of what they do is easy...that is completely different than what they actually do and the work that goes into it

Yes! Thank You lol.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Yes! Thank You lol.

i never said anything on the contrary lol, my whole point was that pippen makes it look easy, and alot of other great players like jordan make it look easy

no shit they put alot of work into it..but that's a completely different argument

 

[BigP50]

I think this discussion is going in circles lol.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Yeah but he can dominate at other skills like almost no one else can.

but he can't necessarily do everything...depending on how we are looking at ability here

the ability to do everything is the topic here

 

[clonetrooper264]

I know what im thinking, prolly just not putting it out there how Id like too. Like I played basketball in high school and got recruited by a few schools so I know what they do isnt easy. Like a lot goes into a play to make it look good, and I know thats tough.

When I think of a better way to say it I will hahaha

Haha alright then. Just saying that the claim that it appeared you were making (NBA players don't make certain difficult plays look easy) didn't really make any sense. Like everyone knows that doing those things is extremely difficult. It's just that at the moment the player does it so well that it looks effortless to them. A random example is that famous switch hands layup that MJ had against the Lakers back in 91 (I think it was then anyway...). Obviously that play was ridiculously difficult, but the way he did it, it looked easy for him. Another example is Dr. J's behind the backboard reverse layup. Clearly off the charts difficulty, but he made it look easy.

Heck even scoring 20 points in basketball is pretty hard. But guys who are scorers in the NBA make scoring look easy.

But yeah anyway, enough on that. I think the point has been made already lol.

 

[BigP50]

but he can't necessarily do everything...depending on how we are looking at ability here

the ability to do everything is the topic here

I disagree. I think Scottie is more than capable of doing anything on the basketball court I.E. posting up, shooting, scoring...

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

I disagree. I think Scottie is more than capable of doing anything on the basketball court I.E. posting up, shooting, scoring...

yo brah..when did i say anything about scottie pippen not being able to do everything on the court?