OT: Who Is The Most Overrated Player In The NBA?

[RamiTheBullsFan]

I will always take a healthy Bulls team over a choking Heat team.

So you are going to give Derrick Rose a free-pass for choking against the Heat on Sunday? Because he did choke. LeBron James doesn't get a free-pass either. Neither should Rose.

Dwyane Wade is the most clutch player on either team. I don't see many Bulls' fans talking about that. Do you know who would be the closer on the Bulls if Wade had signed here?

Wade.

 

[thechosenone]

Do you know who would be the closer on the Bulls if Wade had signed here?

Deng.

 

[NealKleren]

DeAndre Jordan

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Deng.

Joke?

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Calling Rubio overrated is ridiculous also

He is a raw talent. You hear his name more often than Kyrie Irving even though Irving does a vast array of things better than Rubio, and is a much better scorer. A lot of people talk about Rubio like he is already elite. He is maybe the best pure passer in the NBA right now but he is still prone to taking bad shots and botches a lot of possessions.

Also Rondo isnt overrated without Rondo the Cs are toast with him they can still be somewhat competitive and he has the best contract in the league IMO.

The Celtics are toast. And there are a LOT of people who believe Rondo is the best PG in the league. Is he the best player on the team now that the big three have aged? Yeah. But that doesn't make him an elite player necessarily.

 

[FirstTimer]

He is a raw talent. You hear his name more often than Kyrie Irving even though Irving does a vast array of things better than Rubio, and is a much better scorer. A lot of people talk about Rubio like he is already elite. He is maybe the best pure passer in the NBA right now but he is still prone to taking bad shots and botches a lot of possessions.

You don't hear much about Irving because no one gives a shit about Cleveland. Ever. He's playing in a hell hole.

Rubio gets more pub because he's playing on a surprising team, with Kevin Love, and that team also has some other pretty good players in Beasely and Johnson, as well as another possible star in Derrick Williams.

Rubio getting more air time doesn't mean anyone thinks he's better than Kyrie...it just happens Rubio is playing on a team with a sexier story and is a key part of it.

And there are a LOT of people who believe Rondo is the best PG in the league.

You keep saying stupid shit like this.

WHO?

Again, listening to Special person Celtic's fans doesn't really mean anything. Quit reading the RealGM team boards.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

If anybody really doesn't believe Ricky Rubio isn't overrated, please go look at All-star voting. That is the biggest indicator of who is over/underrated. Joakim Noah is ahead of Roy Hibbert and DeAndre Jordan is also ahead of Marc Gasol.

 

[FirstTimer]

If anybody really doesn't believe Ricky Rubio isn't overrated, please go look at All-star voting. That is the biggest indicator of who is over/underrated. Joakim Noah is ahead of Roy Hibbert and DeAndre Jordan is also ahead of Marc Gasol.

Fans are dumb. We get it.

 

[thechosenone]

Joke?

Yes but not exactly.If i wanted 2 points to close the game both Wade and DRose are very good closers.If I had to choose one of them it would be very hard.I will be in a big dilemma between Wade's experience and Rose's explosiveness.Maybe they are the best closers in the NBA after Carmelo.But if I wanted a clutch 3 to win the game i would prefer Deng for sure.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Fans are dumb. We get it.

That's how the entire concept of players getting to be overrated comes into play.

 

[thechosenone]

If anybody really doesn't believe Ricky Rubio isn't overrated, please go look at All-star voting. That is the biggest indicator of who is over/underrated. Joakim Noah is ahead of Roy Hibbert and DeAndre Jordan is also ahead of Marc Gasol.

He is overrated but it is his first year in the league.Give him that.He is #4 in assists,#3 in steals and made some clutch shots.You can't tell someone who is playing in a non playoff team that he is overrated so early in his career.

 

[bleacherbum54]

He is a raw talent. You hear his name more often than Kyrie Irving even though Irving does a vast array of things better than Rubio, and is a much better scorer. A lot of people talk about Rubio like he is already elite. He is maybe the best pure passer in the NBA right now but he is still prone to taking bad shots and botches a lot of possessions.



The Celtics are toast. And there are a LOT of people who believe Rondo is the best PG in the league. Is he the best player on the team now that the big three have aged? Yeah. But that doesn't make him an elite player necessarily.

Rondo is a top 5 pg

I really dont care what other people say if someone tells you Scalbrine is the best player in the NBA does that mean it is true?? There are always homers regardless.


On to Rubio I had Rubio #2 in his draft and a coin flip between him and Blake Griffin. Blake Griffin is a better player than I though he would be. But Rubio is the best pure pg prospect I have ever scouted. His leadership along with his intelligence and court vision is better than any pg I have ever scouted Scott Machado this year is close in terms of the ability to run a team and vision.

Rubio's problem in Europe was the style of play he was born for the NBA game not the European game. Rubio shooting will come along as he practices more (it is easy to improve shooting if you have good work ethic because in the NBA you shoot all day in practice)

Rubio got a bad rap as a bad athlete and IMO it is not true. He is the John Stockton type quick and quickness is very important. John Stockton was slow as hell but he had elite quickness.

He isnt a raw talent he is as polished as they come he is a raw shooter maybe. But in every other part of the game he is very polished.

Irving is a very good pg as well a different type of pg but he is very good offensively. Just because SC mentions a player more doesnt mean he is overrated Rubio is gonna be a top 5 pg in a few years he has a complete game outside of shooting but the shooting is on its way.

I really dont get how you can call Rubio raw. I watch him 3-4 times a week (which is about as much as I watch most teams) he isnt raw at all he is very polished who makes great decisions and a great floor general.

 

[Cloud 9]

He is a raw talent. You hear his name more often than Kyrie Irving even though Irving does a vast array of things better than Rubio, and is a much better scorer. A lot of people talk about Rubio like he is already elite. He is maybe the best pure passer in the NBA right now but he is still prone to taking bad shots and botches a lot of possessions.



The Celtics are toast. And there are a LOT of people who believe Rondo is the best PG in the league. Is he the best player on the team now that the big three have aged? Yeah. But that doesn't make him an elite player necessarily.

What in the hell are you talking about? I've seen you say several off the wall things in this thread, not just this. How the **** is Norris Cole overrated? Because his teams fan base likes him a lot? You cannot be serious. Same with Rubio. How is he overrated? People talk about him because he's an exciting player... Have you even seen him play? He's really not that raw. People think Rondo is the best PG in the league? I have literally never heard anyone make a case for any of these things and I've been around forums for years and years. I'm not trying to attack you but man there's a lot to disagree with here.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Yes but not exactly.If i wanted 2 points to close the game but both Wade and DRose are very good closers.If I had to choose one of them it would be very hard.I will be in a big dilemma between Wade's experience and Rose's explosiveness.Maybe they are the best closers in the NBA after Carmelo.But if I wanted a clutch 3 to win the game i would prefer Deng for sure.

If I wanted a clutch three to win the game, Deng would not be my first option. More like if he is wide open and Wade and Rose are doubled, throw the ball to Deng in the corner.

Rose and Wade would share the ball a lot down-the-stretch of close games. But if you needed a game-winning/saving basket, that ball would be in Wade's hands nearly every time.

 

[FirstTimer]

Yes but not exactly.If i wanted 2 points to close the game but both Wade and DRose are very good closers.If I had to choose one of them it would be very hard.I will be in a big dilemma between Wade's experience and Rose's explosiveness.Maybe they are the best closers in the NBA after Carmelo.But if I wanted a clutch 3 to win the game i would prefer Deng for sure.

Please ban him.

That's how the entire concept of players getting to be overrated comes into play.

Not really. If you're going to start viewing All Star returns and getting all "ZOMG this guy is overrated" then you need to follow a new sport. I never view All Star returns. Ever. I think the first time I did was this year because someone posted about them in this thread.

Unless you are incredibley ignorant you should know the All Star game isn't being treated like an All NBA team. It's players fans want to see play. Can I blame people for wanting to see Ricky Rubio over Steve Nash? No. I'd rather see Rubio too. Who would I vote for in the AS game? Rubio. Does that mean I think he's better than Nash? No. Just the reality of it.

If you are going to start using the AS game to figure out who is overrated and get offended or be bothered by it..I'd choose a new sport to follow.

 

[FirstTimer]

Rondo is a top 5 pg

I really dont care what other people say if someone tells you Scalbrine is the best player in the NBA does that mean it is true?? There are always homers regardless.


On to Rubio I had Rubio #2 in his draft and a coin flip between him and Blake Griffin. Blake Griffin is a better player than I though he would be. But Rubio is the best pure pg prospect I have ever scouted. His leadership along with his intelligence and court vision is better than any pg I have ever scouted Scott Machado this year is close in terms of the ability to run a team and vision.

Rubio's problem in Europe was the style of play he was born for the NBA game not the European game. Rubio shooting will come along as he practices more (it is easy to improve shooting if you have good work ethic because in the NBA you shoot all day in practice)

Rubio got a bad rap as a bad athlete and IMO it is not true. He is the John Stockton type quick and quickness is very important. John Stockton was slow as hell but he had elite quickness.

He isnt a raw talent he is as polished as they come he is a raw shooter maybe. But in every other part of the game he is very polished.

Irving is a very good pg as well a different type of pg but he is very good offensively. Just because SC mentions a player more doesnt mean he is overrated Rubio is gonna be a top 5 pg in a few years he has a complete game outside of shooting but the shooting is on its way.

I really dont get how you can call Rubio raw. I watch him 3-4 times a week (which is about as much as I watch most teams) he isnt raw at all he is very polished who makes great decisions and a great floor general.

:rolling:

Who do you scout for?

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Rondo is a top 5 pg

I really dont care what other people say if someone tells you Scalbrine is the best player in the NBA does that mean it is true?? There are always homers regardless.


On to Rubio I had Rubio #2 in his draft and a coin flip between him and Blake Griffin. Blake Griffin is a better player than I though he would be. But Rubio is the best pure pg prospect I have ever scouted. His leadership along with his intelligence and court vision is better than any pg I have ever scouted Scott Machado this year is close in terms of the ability to run a team and vision.

Rubio's problem in Europe was the style of play he was born for the NBA game not the European game. Rubio shooting will come along as he practices more (it is easy to improve shooting if you have good work ethic because in the NBA you shoot all day in practice)

Rubio got a bad rap as a bad athlete and IMO it is not true. He is the John Stockton type quick and quickness is very important. John Stockton was slow as hell but he had elite quickness.

He isnt a raw talent he is as polished as they come he is a raw shooter maybe. But in every other part of the game he is very polished.

Irving is a very good pg as well a different type of pg but he is very good offensively. Just because SC mentions a player more doesnt mean he is overrated Rubio is gonna be a top 5 pg in a few years he has a complete game outside of shooting but the shooting is on its way.

I really dont get how you can call Rubio raw. I watch him 3-4 times a week (which is about as much as I watch most teams) he isnt raw at all he is very polished who makes great decisions and a great floor general.

Rubio still has work to do. He takes a lot of low percentage shots on offense and once he corrects those types of mistakes and improves that, he will be an elite point guard. Right now, he just isn't. If you don't consider him overrated, go look at who he is ranked higher than in All-star tallies in the Western guards alone.

 

[FirstTimer]

Rubio still has work to do. He takes a lot of low percentage shots on offense and once he corrects those types of mistakes and improves that, he will be an elite point guard. Right now, he just isn't. If you don't consider him overrated, go look at who he is ranked higher than in All-star tallies in the Western guards alone.

Find a new sport to watch.

 

[bleacherbum54]

If anybody really doesn't believe Ricky Rubio isn't overrated, please go look at All-star voting. That is the biggest indicator of who is over/underrated. Joakim Noah is ahead of Roy Hibbert and DeAndre Jordan is also ahead of Marc Gasol.

its the fucking all star game homers are gonna home same reason Joel Anthony is ahead of Roy Hibbert he plays on a team that has a bigger fan base same with Noah.

You should take nothing from the all star game Im surprised Yao isnt still starting in the West lol. He got in every year even when he didn't play a game. It is a popularity contest not a real judge of talent.\

Fans of the team or fans of the player are gonna vote for the guy regardless.

Rubio has all of Europe voting for him which is the main reason he is so high.

but you are crazy if you put any stock in all star voting there is a reason the coaches pick the benches.

 

[thechosenone]

Please ban him.

OK you may set an offense to have DRose or Wade to hit a 3.I feel more safe if the ball ends to Luol hands to hit an open 3.That guy makes it every single time when the ball weighs 10000lbs.