OT: Who wins the AL MVP Award?

Who is the AL MVP?


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poodski

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Why haven't people talked about cliff lee or doc halladay for NL MVP?
 

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Why haven't people talked about cliff lee or doc halladay for NL MVP?

They're on the same team. In my mind, if there are two candidates on one team, neither should win. It's most valuable, therefore if you take one away it won't be a huge difference compared to having only one candidate.
 

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They're on the same team. In my mind, if there are two candidates on one team, neither should win. It's most valuable, therefore if you take one away it won't be a huge difference compared to having only one candidate.

Right now, they're in a battle for the Cy Young. The fact that they're both on the same team hinders their chance of an MVP possibility.
 

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Right now, they're in a battle for the Cy Young. The fact that they're both on the same team hinders their chance of an MVP possibility.

Exactly. They can battle for winning the Cy Young, but having both of them on the same team hurts the chance of winning MVP. That's why it was ridiculous that people thought LeBron or Wade should've won the MVP this year. They're on the same team, so they can't possibly be the most valuable player.
 

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Exactly. They can battle for winning the Cy Young, but having both of them on the same team hurts the chance of winning MVP. That's why it was ridiculous that people thought LeBron or Wade should've won the MVP this year. They're on the same team, so they can't possibly be the most valuable player.

Why does that matter? Michael Jordan won a couple MVPs while he had Scottie Pippen and Dennis Rodman playing at his side.
 

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Why does that matter? Michael Jordan won a couple MVPs while he had Scottie Pippen and Dennis Rodman playing at his side.

That's an entirely different debate there. Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player ever. Take him away from that team and they don't win any titles.
 

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That's an entirely different debate there. Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player ever. Take him away from that team and they don't win any titles.

They almost got to the Finals in 1994 with Scottie at the helm. We can debate "what ifs" but Michael never won without Scottie either. The MVP voting debate is just that, a debate. There is no true correct answer but some answers will be more logical than others.
 

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They almost got to the Finals in 1994 with Scottie at the helm. We can debate "what ifs" but Michael never won without Scottie either. The MVP voting debate is just that, a debate. There is no true correct answer but some answers will be more logical than others.

In the end, they didn't though thus proving how valuable Jordan was. Michael Jordan was the ultimate MVP. Not really much debate about that, but that's for the Bulls forum. :)
 

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They almost got to the Finals in 1994 with Scottie at the helm. We can debate "what ifs" but Michael never won without Scottie either. The MVP voting debate is just that, a debate. There is no true correct answer but some answers will be more logical than others.

Key word there. Michael was the little thing that pushed the Bulls over the top to winning championships. That's why he's the most valuable.
 

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Key word there. Michael was the little thing that pushed the Bulls over the top to winning championships. That's why he's the most valuable.

All I'm saying is that Roy Halladay (Jordan) is better at pitching than Cliff Lee (Pippen) but the Phillies aren't going anywhere without both of them so the MVP still needs help.
 

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Verlander cy young with no question...Granderson MVP.
 

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Granderson shouldn't even be mentioned as MVP, but he will win it. The MVP in baseball is pretty fucked up. Hell, with no salary cap, everything in baseball is pretty fucked up.
 

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Granderson shouldn't even be mentioned as MVP, but he will win it. The MVP in baseball is pretty fucked up. Hell, with no salary cap, everything in baseball is pretty fucked up.

Of course he'll win. He hasn't even been that great. He'll still get chosen because the writers have major boners for the Yankees. If not Grandy, it will be A-gone because they have boners for the Red Sox too.
 

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The day the sports writers get flaccid when they see the Yank-mes/Red Sawx is the day they gain back some credibility with me.
 

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The day the sports writers get flaccid when they see the Yank-mes/Red Sawx is the day they gain back some credibility with me.

The Yankees and Red Sox also happen to be the two best teams in the American League so whatever attention they're getting is at least partially deserved.
 

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i got granderson. Top 3 in HR, top 3 in RBI..leads in runs by mile...has 25 + SB
 

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The Yankees and Red Sox also happen to be the two best teams in the American League so whatever attention they're getting is at least partially deserved.

The problem is that the sports writers have been like this for quite a few years and they are nation-wide writers, therefore they should be covering all topics. ESPN is terrible journalism.
 

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The problem is that the sports writers have been like this for quite a few years and they are nation-wide writers, therefore they should be covering all topics. ESPN is terrible journalism.

It is a nice coincidence that those teams being covered also happen to be two of the best teams in the majors. Naturally you want ratings, and said teams have more resources, but people do gravitate towards winners and the winners get noticed more. Of course you have guys who just have an exceptional year (i.e. Verlander, Bautista) and they'll get noticed too.
 

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It is a nice coincidence that those teams being covered also happen to be two of the best teams in the majors. Naturally you want ratings, and said teams have more resources, but people do gravitate towards winners and the winners get noticed more. Of course you have guys who just have an exceptional year (i.e. Verlander, Bautista) and they'll get noticed too.

It's still bad journalism. Ever heard of bias?
 
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