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[nwfisch]

So Yuniesky Bentancourt has scored 43 runs this season and Chase Headley has scored 42, therefore Headley is better??

No you don't use one stat or metric to judge whose better or who has more value............

 

[dabynsky]

So Yuniesky Bentancourt has scored 43 runs this season and Chase Headley has scored 42, therefore Headley is better??

Using that logic you could argue that wins are a useless stat since they don't reflect value of pitchers.

 

[Captain Obvious]

Using that logic you could argue that wins are a useless stat since they don't reflect value of pitchers.

Exactly what I was going for

No you don't use one stat or metric to judge whose better or who has more value............

But you just said to use runs scored and runs allowed. Now I'm not supposed to use runs scored?!

 

[dabynsky]

You really don't recognize how a stat can have value in a team setting versus an individual player?

 

[nwfisch]

Exactly what I was going for


But you just said to use runs scored and runs allowed. Now I'm not supposed to use runs scored?!

Use as many stats and metrics as you want to judge a player, if you use only one, that's not a great evaluation of a player or comparing players.

 

[Captain Obvious]

You really don't recognize how a stat can have value in a team setting versus an individual player?

I should have elaborated when I said exactly what i was looking for. I mean your reaction. I'm trying to say that yes, wins are an important stat, in fact the most important stat. Because that's all that matters. The point of my post was that using just runs is very inaccurate.

Use as many stats and metrics as you want to judge a player, if you use only one, that's not a great evaluation of a player or comparing players.

But you just said to use runs scored and runs allowed. I was just following your logic.

 

[2SeamHeat]

There is fallacy in any stat that you use. That's the point, using stats, metrics, whatever, the ones you are using don't correlate to runs. The ones that I use, do. Does it really matter if I use metrics or stats or count ceiling tiles, as long as it tells me who is better? I don't think it does.

Sorry, but... can you please inform me as to how a team's total runs scored don't correlate to a team's ability to score runs? I don't care what metric you wish to use. If a team had the ability to score more... or less... runs, they would have.

 

[DewsSox79]

Sorry, but... can you please inform me as to how a team's total runs scored don't correlate to a team's ability to score runs? I don't care what metric you wish to use. If a team had the ability to score more... or less... runs, they would have.

:clap:

 

[Captain Obvious]

Sorry, but... can you please inform me as to how a team's total runs scored don't correlate to a team's ability to score runs? I don't care what metric you wish to use. If a team had the ability to score more... or less... runs, they would have.

I was talking about individual players...

 

[DewsSox79]

So Yuniesky Bentancourt has scored 43 runs this season and Chase Headley has scored 42, therefore Headley is better??

betancourt has played 124 games

Utley has played 77


Try again.

 

[dabynsky]

betancourt has played 124 games

Utley has played 77


Try again.

He was talking about Chase Headley though. He has played 107 games by the way.

 

[DewsSox79]

my bad...i had utley on my mind. whoops.

 

[2SeamHeat]

I was talking about individual players...

But it began as a debate on the Cubs as a whole for the course of 65 years or whatever. You and Dab branched it off into individual players when you decided that Runs Scored didn't show how well a team could score runs... and that Runs Against didn't show how well a team could keep the other teams from scoring runs.

 

[DewsSox79]

He was talking about Chase Headley though. He has played 107 games by the way.

I would thank you if the button worked.

 

[nwfisch]

my bad...i had utley on my mind. whoops.

You mean you read a post only once.

Perma ban me and Dews.

 

[Rice Cube]

my bad...i had utley on my mind. whoops.

That's because Utley is badass.

 

[DewsSox79]

You mean you read a post only once.

Perma ban me and Dews.

Im going back and forth closing shit, deleting shit....im tired.

nah fisch fry, you are fine.

 

[DewsSox79]

That's because Utley is badass.

and so is that fucking sick as machine of a team they have over there in philly.

 

[nwfisch]

Im going back and forth closing shit, deleting shit....im tired.

nah fisch fry, you are fine.

I was kidding

 

[Rice Cube]

Isn't there some other Cubs forum moderator dude who can do that?