Quenton Nelson, Notre Dame

[xer0h0ur]

(1) Yeah this team better make multiple signings at WR in FA. I dont see a man under contract for us right now that I can count on as a reliable starter. As for CB, I wouldnt be shocked if Pace resigned both Amukamara and Fuller to hold the fort. Fuller deserves a longer contract (I think) and Prince can be held onto for a short term contract to prevent the creation of a problem.

(2) I wouldnt be surprised to move down in the second. It's practically a tradition at this point, and Pace has shown a good eye for value in the second round. Goldman and Whitehair are studs, and Shaheen has the physical tools to dominate at TE. Trade down, grab a third rounder as compensation, and nab a good value player.

(3) I think being realistic about 2018 is another sub .500 year regardless of who we take in the first. We have recently seen a few teams have a one-year turnaround, but the Bears just dont have the talent on roster right now to make that kind of leap. If Trubisky takes a huge step and we get a good pool of FAs, then maybe we do better. But whether we take Nelson, Ridley, any of the CBs, or whoever at 8, I have a hard time predicting more than 6 wins.

God bless your soul for actually using the word dominate properly. Just to add to the cornerback comment, Callahan is also a RFA and he's 100% earned himself a deal. He's been a great nickel for us. So really we need to sign all of our starting corners.

FWIW, just one man's opinion, I see a distinct possibility this team CAN possibly be 8-8 to 10-6 depending on not losing our cornerbacks and having a relatively healthy season for once particularly because I doubt our schedule next season will be as tough as this season's.

 

[dennehy]

I'm thinking they probably give Callahan a second round tender for next year, which will be around $3mil and will mean his price is likely too high to get interest on the market. Then negotiate next year. I think he's been solid but with some injuries and some issues getting beat over the top I'm not ready to pay him top slot corner $ yet, especially with two outside starters to sign.

 

[xer0h0ur]

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Just saying.

 

[PolarBear]

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Just saying.

That's impressive. Signing Callahan and Fuller should be top priorities.

Do you think Callahan could be our #2 CB who shifts inside to NB in nickel packages?

 

[xer0h0ur]

I would have major reservations about trying to put an outside corner at nickel or vice versa trying to put a nickel cornerback outside. The reality is that its rarely ever worked out well. The skill sets to play the two positions are not the same. So in short I wouldn't have any confidence in doing so but I suppose in a pinch if you had to due to injury you could try Callahan outside.

Edit: Its pretty common for nickel corners to be on the smallish side, sub 6' but they're quick twitch athletes with speed and willingness to tackle.

 

[dabears70]

Kevin White is the only WR under contact right now. Meredith, Bellamy, Wright, and Inman are all FAs. So it's likely they'll sign at least 4 FA WRs and possibly 5.

Edit: forgot Wheaton, but I just assume he's gone, and Mizzell, who might be as well.

Mizzell is a RB. I think we can say Meredith will get re-signed and at least one of D.Inman, K.Wright or Bellamy should get brought back. I think K.Wright could give us a much better year with Nagy and this new offense so lets see if we do anything in free agency or draft at slot.

 

[xer0h0ur]

FWIW I would bring back Inman, Wright and Meredith then add a new free agent WR if not two and go to the draft for another receiver or double dip and take two receivers in the draft only getting one new one from free agency.

 

[dennehy]

Yep, he's a good player in 10-12 games per year thus far, as I said. And you can retain him for relatively little $ this year. Doubt he's an outside corner or they'd have put him there a bit more by now.

 

[dabears70]

I like B.Callahan who was another great find by R.Pace as a UDFA and he had some good games, but he also had some really bad games as well and had a lot of different injuries and missed a good amount of games because of them. If he can stay healthy he'll be a good NB for us and definitely needs to be brought back at the right price.

 

[dabears70]

FWIW I would bring back Inman, Wright and Meredith then add a new free agent WR if not two and go to the draft for another receiver or double dip and take two receivers in the draft only getting one new one from free agency.

Yeah i think we have to get Trubs at least one veteran WR that will not only help him but help the young WR's we bring in in the draft. I would love to get two in free agency and getting another one in the 2nd round of the draft. If we can add a couple of OLB's in free agency then i'd be fine with drafting a WR in the 1st round as long as we trade down to the middle of the 1st round to get him. If we did draft Ridley at 8 i wouldn't be mad at it. I know a lot of people have questions with Ridley and after all the injuries with K.White i'd definitely be nervous about taking another WR in the top 10 but Ridley could end up being a really good WR in the NFL. He had a good year last year playing with a QB that didn't throw the ball all that much.

 

[dennehy]

Meredith can be tendered. I'd hope you can get Wright and Inman for $2-3mil per year for a couple years. Maybe a bit more for Wright. Then they've got to get a couple others who can compete to start in FA to give themselves flexibility in the draft.

 

[BearbaFett]

Mizzell is a RB. I think we can say Meredith will get re-signed and at least one of D.Inman, K.Wright or Bellamy should get brought back. I think K.Wright could give us a much better year with Nagy and this new offense so lets see if we do anything in free agency or draft at slot.

i got to thinking about cam meredith...we seem to all like him, but is he really a lock to get re-signed? does he fit in nagy’s offense? with white already under contract, do you think nagy needs/wants 2 big possession receivers (both recovering from injury, mind you) when his offense would likely moreso value smaller, shiftier WRs?

 

[rawdawg]

i got to thinking about cam meredith...we seem to all like him, but is he really a lock to get re-signed? does he fit in nagy’s offense? with white already under contract, do you think nagy needs/wants 2 big possession receivers (both recovering from injury, mind you) when his offense would likely moreso value smaller, shiftier WRs?

Meredith is not a possession WR. White certainly doesn't have a possession WR skill set but who knows what he is at this point. But I honestly question the hire if Nagy can't figure out how to fit Meredith in his offense with his cheap price tag. Doesn't have to be the #1, but there definitely should be a place for Cam.

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[xer0h0ur]

i got to thinking about cam meredith...we seem to all like him, but is he really a lock to get re-signed? does he fit in nagy’s offense? with white already under contract, do you think nagy needs/wants 2 big possession receivers (both recovering from injury, mind you) when his offense would likely moreso value smaller, shiftier WRs?

You say two except we all figure White to be all but gone and Meredith is the only one who has production to go by and is due a contract. So really you don't even have one if you're not re-signing Meredith. Or did you mean Inman and Meredith? Because IMO they aren't the same type of receivers.

 

[BearbaFett]

You say two except we all figure White to be all but gone and Meredith is the only one who has production to go by and is due a contract. So really you don't even have one if you're not re-signing Meredith. Or did you mean Inman and Meredith? Because IMO they aren't the same type of receivers.

what do you predict pace will do with white? cut him? it’ll be the last year of his contract. i think he sticks around on the off-chance he produces in his contract year, a la kyle fuller.

 

[Washington]

i got to thinking about cam meredith...we seem to all like him, but is he really a lock to get re-signed? does he fit in nagy’s offense? with white already under contract, do you think nagy needs/wants 2 big possession receivers (both recovering from injury, mind you) when his offense would likely moreso value smaller, shiftier WRs?

It would be an asinine move to keep White over Meredith.

 

[xer0h0ur]

what do you predict pace will do with white? cut him? it’ll be the last year of his contract. i think he sticks around on the off-chance he produces in his contract year, a la kyle fuller.

What do I predict? He will make White earn a spot on the roster. If he can't beat out the veterans or the new guys he can fuck off. Pace would be a complete fool to rely on a 3 consecutive year injured player at this point. He's a camp body at this point. Nothing more. So in short he's a guy who would get cut if he can't prove to have earned a spot on the receiving corps.

 

[Washington]

What do I predict? He will make White earn a spot on the roster. If he can't beat out the veterans or the new guys he can fuck off. Pace would be a complete fool to rely on a 3 consecutive year injured player at this point. He's a camp body at this point. Nothing more. So in short he's a guy who would get cut if he can't prove to have earned a spot on the receiving corps.

Agreed. He needs to come into camp penciled in no higher than the #6 unlike last year where he was penciled in as the #2.

 

[dennehy]

White's contract includes no cap relief. All his $ is guaranteed. He might not make the final roster but he's not getting cut until late in training camp, if at all.

Meredith can be tendered as an RFA. The Bears can gamble if they want and give him a lower tender, but if they give him a second round tender he'll make about $3mil. And if someone wants to sign him the Bears will get a 2nd round pick in 19, which makes it unlikely. Good deal for the Bears.

 

[BearbaFett]

It would be an asinine move to keep White over Meredith.

well the situation is one is under contract and one isn’t.

if pace gives meredith his walking papers and replaces him with, say paul richardson or albert wilson...would you be ok with that?