Random cubs/baseball talks

[Omeletpants]

He's just a guy that really, really wants to be a player and will do anything to achieve that goal. If something happened to Contreras and they said..."hey, we're in a tight spot and really need you to catch again". He'd do that too. Nothing he does surprises me.

Sounds like everyone on the team. That description could be Almora, Happ, Zoberist, or even Heyward. Try not to attribute unique qualities to make your point

 

[TL1961]

Where are all the "trade Schwarber to the American League" wags now? I mean, he'll never be more than a DH, right?

As much as I like Kyle, I will add that we have lost two games in large part because of his defensive miscues that were not scored as errors. Missed a ball in one that should easily have been caught but was scored a double and two runs scored. He’s been pretty decent, but I’m not ready to hand him a gold glove.

 

[Diehardfan]

As much as I like Kyle, I will add that we have lost two games in large part because of his defensive miscues that were not scored as errors. Missed a ball in one that should easily have been caught but was scored a double and two runs scored. He’s been pretty decent, but I’m not ready to hand him a gold glove.

You have way too much tunnelvision. You need to expand your thinking. Fielding is just a portion of the game as is hitting, pitching and baserunning. No player individually can lose a game. Do you blame a player's 4th inning error costing runs or the team for not scoring more to overcome it? It's even deeper than that. A player misplays a ball causing 2 runs to score but an inning earlier another player chased a ball in the dirt with the bases loaded and negated a big rally, the game was a loss but who's to blame? Perfect example was yesterday....Chatwood is once again horrible with 7 walks, hit a guy, had an error and a wild pitch. Under most circumstances you could say he did everything he could to lose a ballgame but the Cubs as a team overcame that to win. A day earlier, if Heyward would've grounded out instead of hitting a GS, would he be blamed for the loss? It's a team game, an expansive game. Even on the play below, which is probably one of the best known cases of one player "losing" a game....if the Cubs would've cashed in on a few more chances earlier in this game....there would probably not even be a video of it.

[video=youtube;My-zVOVAIDM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My-zVOVAIDM[/video]

 

[TC in Mississippi]

As much as I like Kyle, I will add that we have lost two games in large part because of his defensive miscues that were not scored as errors. Missed a ball in one that should easily have been caught but was scored a double and two runs scored. He’s been pretty decent, but I’m not ready to hand him a gold glove.

His ceiling has always been just above average as a LF and that's about where he sits right now. He's going to have the comical error once in awhile and he's going to miss some higher probability plays due to range or mediocre route running. The double you spoke of was a 65% catch-able ball according to Statcast so not terribly egregious, but certainly catch able. There have been far worse LF than Kyle Schwarber who have played every day.

 

[chibears55]

I mentioned earlier about Maddon abusing the bullpen and Cishek early..

https://www.cubsinsider.com/2018/06/10/reliever-usage-cubs-rules-benefit-team/


I dont agree with the 4 pitcher limit because that could backfire quickly when someone just not having a good game and your stuck leaving him in..
Plus
Could hurt the pitcher forcing him to throw extra pitches cause he can't come out
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[TC in Mississippi]

Looking like Ohtani is heading for TJ. Makes me sad but as young as he is you don’t **** around. Get it done and bring him back in 2020

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndic...-john-surgery-to-repair-elbow-injury.amp.html

 

[chibears55]

Looking like Ohtani is heading for TJ. Makes me sad but as young as he is you don’t **** around. Get it done and bring him back in 2020

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndic...-john-surgery-to-repair-elbow-injury.amp.html

That would of been a huge setback for the cubs rotation.....

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[TC in Mississippi]

That would of been a huge setback for the cubs rotation.....

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Now there's a huge pushback against this from the Angels. I still think in the end he has the surgery. It makes sense.

 

[fatbeard]

Bonkers.

 

[Adipost]

Bonkers.

 

[CubsFaninMN]

And apparently Alzolay has been shut down for the rest of the year. The lat strain was more severe than they thought, since right now the take is "Well, at least it didn't require surgery"...

 

[CSF77]

They are not going to mess with him. He wasn’t right all year anyways.

What I care about is Smyly getting into rehab starts. If you look at 2nd half support it comes from him.

Which is why I believe Montgomery sticks in the rotation. Rosario is doing a great job in that role and Smyly adds to it later. All you need really. Chatwood needs to go to Butler’s role in RH long man.

 

[CSF77]

Might as well call it the Max Scherzer award now.

 

[beckdawg]

I seriously doubt either team would actually consider this deal but I think it'd be an interesting pick em case between Chatwood and Sonny Gray. Surprisingly Chatwood's ERA is almost a run lower than Gray's. His K/9 is also better as well as many underlying numbers. The one obvious caveat is Chatwood can't stop/wont stop walking guys. Chatwood is also technically younger by a month.

 

[brett05]

Might as well call it the Max Scherzer award now.

Jacob deGrom has a strong case

 

[CSF77]

Jacob deGrom has a strong case

Not with that team backing him. Money is on the team fighting for the division.

Saw this with Jake in 2015. Not really about the advanced metrics. I see it as DeGromm would have to be superior in every way to change this. Max just has to put up a respectable win mark as his SO’s have historically been league best and he is on pace to break 20 wins. As long as they are with in 1.00 ERA Max wins.

All said Zach had the era. Shaw has the best metrics. Jake won it with wins and a historical 2nd half. So the numbers are not the measuring stick.

 

[anotheridiot]

They are not going to mess with him. He wasn’t right all year anyways.

What I care about is Smyly getting into rehab starts. If you look at 2nd half support it comes from him.

Which is why I believe Montgomery sticks in the rotation. Rosario is doing a great job in that role and Smyly adds to it later. All you need really. Chatwood needs to go to Butler’s role in RH long man.

I just think Monty deserves the spot. He earned it 4 very much quality starts. They constantly dick the guy around. He wants to start, they know he wants to start, but we will get Smyly going and then of course we cant have 4 lefties in the rotation.

 

[Omeletpants]

Not with that team backing him. Money is on the team fighting for the division.

Which is a totally moronic way of choosing the "best" player

 

[chibears55]

Jacob deGrom has a strong case

DeGrom may get traded and if to a NL team where he can pad his numbers, that would help him big time...
Just hope it ain't Milwaukee

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[chibears55]

I just think Monty deserves the spot. He earned it 4 very much quality starts. They constantly dick the guy around. He wants to start, they know he wants to start, but we will get Smyly going and then of course we cant have 4 lefties in the rotation.

If Smyley returns this year, wont be til August or September and itll be in the pen for depth there

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