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[chibears55]

But to get DeGromm think Russell, Schwarber and Lange.

If mets are thinking that big from any contenders this deadline, they wont be moving him at all

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[CSF77]

I personally would look into Cole Hamels myself. Basically buy out control and send Texas Underwood and a pick guy. They have gone back and forth over the years so they most likely have a good idea on a solid return. That bolsters your chances enough and doesn’t lock you in long term.

That is if Yu is wrecked. If he is looking at Aug Montgomery has done a solid job.

Now on Hendricks. IDK honestly. Sounds mechanics so some adjustments fixes him.

Chatwood has been what I expected. Not much. But he is a 5. Yu healthy he would make the needle barely move. Fact they are looking at 3 guys fringe on a play offroster Ups the need.

Like I said: Yu toast: look at Cole. It is a reasonable trade scenario. Cubs absorb contract and give up 2 guys that hold 0 impact in 2018

 

[CSF77]

If mets are thinking that big from any contenders this deadline, they wont be moving him at all

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Why would he be worth less than Q?

 

[CSF77]

Think Rick needs to go back to what he knows. Hangovers

 

[chibears55]

Why would he be worth less than Q?

Not suggesting they offer less for DeGrom..
Both Cease and Jiminez were prospects in A ball..
Im not saying only trade a couple A ball arms for him..

Sure it might take players like Happ Bote and higher level prospects to go with those A ball arms...

All im saying is the cubs do have talent in the lower level they can move if they want to make a significant trade or two at the deadline..

The minor league cuppard isn't empty

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[chibears55]

Think Rick needs to go back to what he knows. Hangovers

Yea because youre obviously much more smarter then him .....
LMAO

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[CSF77]

You note that Eloy was top ten and Cease was #85. For a guy in a off year vs a cutter young guy pre Arb.

Being a Mlb pitcher doesn’t make you a GM. most gm’s never played

And I’m just speaking value. Not getting into who is in their market.

 

[CSF77]

Add to it the mets don’t have to do anything. Off year. Next year they could be running the East with a healthy staff. So it is sketchy to start

 

[chibears55]

Your NL Avg leader....

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[CSF77]

Looking over the Cubs starters: In starts only:

Lester 10-2 2.18 ERA 95 IP
Montgomery 3-1 2.43 ERA 40.2 IP
Hendricks 5-8 4.21 ERA 92.0 IP
Quintana 6-6 4.31 ERA 85.2 IP
Chatwood 3-5 4.54 ERA 73.1 IP
Darvish 1-3 4.95 ERA 40.0 IP

I would probably rank them that way also. Montgomery is at .207 BAA and Lester .208 WHIP 1.06 and 1.08. Montgomery has pretty much kept pace with Lester outside of the SO/9 6.64 to 7.01.

What they really need is a RH to slot around those 2 and Q right now. If Darvish returns Chatwood would be the first to go right now.
Hendricks BAA: .245 WHIP:1.23 SO/9: 6.85 BB/9: 2.84
Chatwood BAA: .235 WHIP: 1.75 SO/9: 8.59 BB/9: 8.10

So in reality neither are good right now. Chatwood has been better except for his BB/9. Unfortunately that factor has dominated his starts.
So both are the team #5 SP with Yu splitting up Montgomery and Q right now.

Just by the numbers

 

[The Bandit]

Can we just talk for a second about how hot Jhey is? Dude is finally doing what we were expecting at the plate. It's pretty nice to see after two seasons of pretty meager production.

 

[CSF77]

Can we just talk for a second about how hot Jhey is? Dude is finally doing what we were expecting at the plate. It's pretty nice to see after two seasons of pretty meager production.

Hitting coach change. He didn’t click with Maele. But seeing Rizzo regress after his success just leads me to believe diffrent strokes.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

Can we just talk for a second about how hot Jhey is? Dude is finally doing what we were expecting at the plate. It's pretty nice to see after two seasons of pretty meager production.

Since coming off the concussion list 5/18 he’s slashing
.336/.374/.511 an .885 OPS and 137 wRC+. The amazing thing about the OBP is that he’s doing it with a 6% walk rate. We always talk about how you want your top of the lineup guys to draw walks that we forget that hitting your way on base is OK too.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

Add to it the mets don’t have to do anything. Off year. Next year they could be running the East with a healthy staff. So it is sketchy to start

The Mets need far more than they can get in an offseason to compete against Atlanta, Washington (even without Harper) and Philly. They’d be foolish not to listen on both deGrom and Syndergaard. Of course foolish is their middle name...

 

[CSF77]

The Mets need far more than they can get in an offseason to compete against Atlanta, Washington (even without Harper) and Philly. They’d be foolish not to listen on both deGrom and Syndergaard. Of course foolish is their middle name...

Syndergaard back that rotation is pretty scary.

I do agree that they need a hitting core going forward. They have bought theirs and normally you end up buying declining players.

That said Montgomery has pretty much paced Lester in his starts. I see them in a situation when Yu returns that they will have to choose Hendricks or Chatwood. Initially I was thinking Montgomery back but looking at it closer he has done what you expected out of Q. Strange year for sure.

Now getting a RH SP in there becomes ideal right now and talent wise Yu is that guy. If Kyle finds his rhythm then he becomes the answer.

Some of these issues will be fixed internal. The only thing that changes the dialog is Yu shut down. Then that forces a response but DeGromm is out of their reach.

Looking at the Cubs I would say Baez and Almora myself. Both are under control and hot tickets this year. Theo never goes there

 

[SilenceS]

Cubs fans wildly overrate their own players. Fact is this team is full of average to slightly above average players. Nothing elite and none near the best in the league. But Theo and the Cubs money will keep them 8-12th best for years to come. When you think about that, contending is not so bad. They are a fun team to watch with great chemistry, but are they dominant? Nope

Is this like 2016 ommy prediction again? You sailed miserably at that one

 

[CSF77]

Cubs fans wildly overrate their own players. Fact is this team is full of average to slightly above average players. Nothing elite and none near the best in the league. But Theo and the Cubs money will keep them 8-12th best for years to come. When you think about that, contending is not so bad. They are a fun team to watch with great chemistry, but are they dominant? Nope

Almora leading the league in BA
Heyward hitting near .300 again
Baez hitting .280 while knocking in RBI’s with the league leaders
Zo hitting near .300


That is with Bryant on the DL and Rizzo hitting below .250.

If Rizzo catches fire this line up becomes a wrecking ball. That is with Contreras silent at the plate also.

The pen for the most part has been very decent and proven deep to be able to take on injury.

The rotation has been the heel for sure. Lester and Montgomery have been the story. Everything else has been dud.

So I see it as they are leading the wild card race in the weaker league. AL is flat out the stronger league now and it is not close at all. But talking about the ability to hit with a AL team the Cubs put Schwarber at DH and Happ in left they become a quality AL team.

Again it comes down to the rotation and being 2 deep is making them vulnerable

 

[chibears55]

https://twitter.com/TommyBirch/status/1013460085962444801?s=19

He getting closer....

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[chibears55]

Maples back up..

Duensing on DL
Hopefully for 60 days

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[CSF77]

Thank god. Bet Maples cements himself in this time